Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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gaucho_10 said:
You think he'd chose United if Madrid offered him the same wages? :lol:
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Probably? He was here before.

If both United and Real are in for Mbappe, it will be interesting to see just how firm each's interest and intent is. Monaco and the kid would do very well if both of them really go head-to-head for him.
 
Also, the Marca article is truly laughable. No one has a clue where the kid wants to go. How on earth would he make a decision without seeing the offers and speaking to clubs?
 
carvajal said:
I think his preference for Madrid has been exaggerated; in any case it seems that the presence of Zidane, Cristiano + his previous experience training in Madrid when he was 14 can give us some extra points if we have to bid with other teams.
Sincerely, I would prefer if he stays one more year in Monaco, however his moment is now, so it seems inevitable that he will leave this summer.
His numbers are fantastic. I don´t think many elite strikers have managed to do that in their first season, not only in the league but in the Champions League.
If Higuaín cost 90 million € with his age, then it is reasonable that Mbappe is above 100. It is a risk, but if we do not take it some other team will.
One of the reasons given by Marca´s article to put aside Hazard or Dybala is the risk of slowing the progression of Asensio, which seems very reasonable.
Madrid have to be careful with the money but I think they can afford to pay 100/125 million, even without selling James or Morata.
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That's failed logic. there are 1 season wonders and he has been doing it nowhere near long enough. He could easily get found out when he moves out of the comfort of Monaco or teams figure out his moves. All his CL goals have come against City and Dortmund so it isn't as if he has been scoring consistently thoughout the tournament. Higuain isn't a 75 million player but Juve and Napoli are rivals so they fleeced them. His League 1 scoring is about as good as Cavani and Falcao but not over a sustained period e.g. 38 full games etc. Cavani himself isn't all that, neither is Falcao or any of Ligue 1's scorers so I am very cautious. £55 million cash should buy him as he is no Neymar and still has barely 25 goals to his name. Goals to minutes is overrated unless its a long enough sample size
 
He only has two years left on his contract apparently.

If Mourinho is 'enchanted' as has been suggested, I can see Woody fighting tooth-and-nail to get this done.
 
Stacks said:
That's failed logic. there are 1 season wonders and he has been doing it nowhere near long enough. He could easily get found out when he moves out of the comfort of Monaco or teams figure out his moves. All his CL goals have come against City and Dortmund so it isn't as if he has been scoring consistently thoughout the tournament. Higuain isn't a 75 million player but Juve and Napoli are rivals so they fleeced them. His League 1 scoring is about as good as Cavani and Falcao but not over a sustained period e.g. 38 full games etc. Cavani himself isn't all that, neither is Falcao or any of Ligue 1's scorers so I am very cautious. £55 million cash should buy him as he is no Neymar and still has barely 25 goals to his name. Goals to minutes is overrated unless its a long enough sample size
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Well, it´s obviously a risk, although I want to think that the hype is based on some serious scout analysis during these last years. He might be a 1 season wonder, but how many 1 season wonders have scored that amount of goals to disappear later. The perfect deal would be 50/60 + some extras depending on his performances, trophies,etc.
 
Anything posted by Marca should be disregarded as quickly as shite spewed by The Sun after that stadium photoshop farce when we played Real in the USA.
 
The whole Ronaldo fandom thing is very silly.

Most pros love Maradona, they don't join Napoli for that reason.
 
KingMinger22 said:
He only has two years left on his contract apparently.

If Mourinho is 'enchanted' as has been suggested, I can see Woody fighting tooth-and-nail to get this done.
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I think he'll stay an additional season, and sign an extension on his contract so Monaco get a huge fee. His comments very recently about not being ready to go somewhere like Madrid show he's grounded and acknowledges the amount of time he has left. It's also a world cup year, he won't want to risk a place in France's NT.
 
I'm sure it's been said plenty, but the Martial comparisons are silly. I think Martial will be a quality player for United, but when we signed him he was relatively unknown. He had scored 15 goals in 70 games for Monaco and the papers were full of "Who is Anthony Martial" stories. As well as the What a Waste of Money headline.

The whole world is talking about this guy. He's scored 25 in 53 games. Almost 1 in 2 compared to Martial's 1 in 4 and a half. He's on a different level to where Martial was when we signed him.
 
unitedbhoy said:
I meant the current best team in the world (although they have been for a few season throughout Benzema's time at Real). The 8 years was referring to the length of Benzema's Real Madrid career thus far.
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Ah fair enough. Even though they are the best team in the world, I wouldn't put Benzema in my top 5 strikers. I don't think at any one point would he have been considered the best striker in the world. He's very good no doubt about that, but it's strange that Real Madrid haven't brought in someone else as they having the pull. It's only recently that they've begun improving as their return was otherwise quite poor before La Decima.
 
AXVnee7 said:
Ah fair enough. Even though they are the best team in the world, I wouldn't put Benzema in my top 5 strikers. I don't think at any one point would he have been considered the best striker in the world. He's very good no doubt about that, but it's strange that Real Madrid haven't brought in someone else as they having the pull. It's only recently that they've begun improving as their return was otherwise quite poor before La Decima.
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Benzema's very unselfish and very hard working - always putting the tram first. This gives Bale and Ronaldo more chance to be in the limelight. But no doubt about it, Benzema is a too quality footballer and we'd be lucky to have him at United
 
AXVnee7 said:
Ah fair enough. Even though they are the best team in the world, I wouldn't put Benzema in my top 5 strikers. I don't think at any one point would he have been considered the best striker in the world. He's very good no doubt about that, but it's strange that Real Madrid haven't brought in someone else as they having the pull. It's only recently that they've begun improving as their return was otherwise quite poor before La Decima.
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Probably because he's the type of striker that gets the best out of Ronaldo, Bale etc. He's also Perez's pet which pretty much makes him king when you take into account Ronaldo's love for him.
 
Now that the so called 'BBC' has lost it's holy status even with Zidane, the chances of Madrid being in for Mbappe could certainly rise. Him and Dybala are the only 2 young superstars that would fit Perez' galactico profile and they've been very quiet lately.
Having said that, Marca is about as accurate and reliable as a Stormtrooper trying to shoot at Han Solo. I'll wait for someone credible in the Spanish media like COPE, El Pais or Cadena SER.
 
I don't really see too much of a difference between Mbappe and Rashford. The former has more goals (albeit in the French league) and the latter has been largely playing a secondary role behind Zlatan all year. If the roles were reversed, I'd have to say their numbers would be comparable.
 
Raoul said:
I don't really see too much of a difference between Mbappe and Rashford. The former has more goals (albeit in the French league) and the latter has been largely playing a secondary role behind Zlatan all year. If the roles were reversed, I'd have to say their numbers would be comparable.
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The only difference I would say is that Rashford offers slightly bit more pace than Mbappe but Mbappe's movement and finishing is better than Rashford. I would love to have both in the team but I prefer to bring in Dembele and work with Rashford instead.
 
beingshe7don said:
The only difference I would say is that Rashford offers slightly bit more pace than Mbappe but Mbappe's movement and finishing is better than Rashford. I would love to have both in the team but I prefer to bring in Dembele and work with Rashford instead.
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Agreed on both counts. Both will be fantastic players over the next decade.
 
Raoul said:
I don't really see too much of a difference between Mbappe and Rashford. The former has more goals (albeit in the French league) and the latter has been largely playing a secondary role behind Zlatan all year. If the roles were reversed, I'd have to say their numbers would be comparable.
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Mbappe's technical ability and finishing ability seems far ahead of Rashford. His decision making as well. Mbappe doesn't seem like a young prospect out there. He plays like an experienced player who doesn't look out of place at all against some of Europe's best clubs.
 
beingshe7don said:
The only difference I would say is that Rashford offers slightly bit more pace than Mbappe but Mbappe's movement and finishing is better than Rashford. I would love to have both in the team but I prefer to bring in Dembele and work with Rashford instead.
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Agreed. As brilliant as Mbappe is, I feel like he's too similar in play style as Rashford and Martial to not affect their playing time. While someone like Dembele could easily play as a RW and still have game time for the other 2. However, if we can get Mbappe, there's no way I wouldn't buy him.
 
Do not want us to sign this guy, for the ridiculous prices touted we could get Aubemeyang which is in his prime scoring for fun, and still have change to spare for another player.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Do not want us to sign this guy, for the ridiculous prices touted we could get Aubemeyang which is in his prime scoring for fun, and still have change to spare for another player.
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I don't think money is much of an issue for us either way.
 
elnorte said:
I don't think money is much of an issue for us either way.
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Not as such, but if reports are true about what Monaco want then it is simply too much. £100m for an 18 year old with one great season under his belt is way different to the £60-75m it would take to get a proven goalscorer in his prime which Auba is.

Also when it comes to sums like that then money is an issue for everyone. We are loaded but £100m for an 18 year old would be half of what I reckon we'll max spend in one summer, £200m.

And what if Mbappe comes in and takes a good 1-2 years to adjust to PL football, which is realistic considering his age. Financial wise we've got the clout to wait for that investment to come good, but as a team we do not have that luxury. We need guaranteed goals, and we need them now.
 
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Didn't Robert Fernandez (Barca technical secretary) say Dembele told him he wants to play for Barcelona? I see him as an eventual replacement for Messi in the wide forward position to be honest.

Mbappe would be a fantastic signing if we intend to play with 3 forwards like Martial, Rashford and Mbappe but I think he'll stay an extra season. He'll probably sign an extension so Monaco get the best possible price for him next summer.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Not as such, but if reports are true about what Monaco want then it is simply too much. £100m for an 18 year old with one great season under his belt is way different to the £60-75m it would take to get a proven goalscorer in his prime which Auba is.

Also when it comes to sums like that then money is an issue for everyone. We are loaded but £100m for an 18 year old would be half of what I reckon we'll max spend in one summer, £200m.

And what if Mbappe comes in and takes a good 1-2 years to adjust to PL football, which is realistic considering his age. Financial wise we've got the clout to wait for that investment to come good, but as a team we do not have that luxury. We need guaranteed goals, and we need them now.
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Would the £100m not be broken into clauses and bonuses similar to how the Martial deal panned out? So maybe we would pay £60-70m up front and the rest be dependent on him doing certain things, again basically like how Martial deal was negotiated. It seems more manageable that way, and dampens the financial damage if he is indeed a one season wonder.
 
AXVnee7 said:
Would the £100m not be broken into clauses and bonuses similar to how the Martial deal panned out? So maybe we would pay £60-70m up front and the rest be dependent on him doing certain things, again basically like how Martial deal was negotiated. It seems more manageable that way, and dampens the financial damage if he is indeed a one season wonder.
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As I've stated I think financial wise we can take the risk no problem, but as a team we can't since we need to replace Zlatan's goals and ideally add significantly to them, we can't expect a 18 year old with one season under his belt who would be new to the PL to shoulder that burden.

Let us say that Auba and B.Silva combined costs us £140m, also structured deals, that would be £40m more than Mbappe for a significantly more heavy impact on the team.

If everything was rose red and we were only looking for the cherry on the top then I would be all for taking the romantic bet on Mbappe, but not as things stand.
 
SwansonsTache said:
As I've stated I think financial wise we can take the risk no problem, but as a team we can't since we need to replace Zlatan's goals and ideally add significantly to them, we can't expect a 18 year old with one season under his belt who would be new to the PL to shoulder that burden.

Let us say that Auba and B.Silva combined costs us £140m, also structured deals, that would be £40m more than Mbappe for a significantly more heavy impact on the team.

If everything was rose red and we were only looking for the cherry on the top then I would be all for taking the romantic bet on Mbappe, but not as things stand.
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I guess I really trying to say that paying £60-70m up front we can have that extra money to spend elsewhere as it wouldn't be immediately needed for Mbappe but I see your point regarding the need for immediate goals and I'd rather pay that sort of money for Griezmann than Mbappe. This then potentially allows us to perhaps dip in for Bernardo Silva instead (who is my personal preference from Monaco anyway). Not to mention we do already have Rashford, and Martial.

Oh and substituting Auba for any of those players on our get list would be most welcome too
 
SwansonsTache said:
Not as such, but if reports are true about what Monaco want then it is simply too much. £100m for an 18 year old with one great season under his belt is way different to the £60-75m it would take to get a proven goalscorer in his prime which Auba is.

Also when it comes to sums like that then money is an issue for everyone. We are loaded but £100m for an 18 year old would be half of what I reckon we'll max spend in one summer, £200m.

And what if Mbappe comes in and takes a good 1-2 years to adjust to PL football, which is realistic considering his age. Financial wise we've got the clout to wait for that investment to come good, but as a team we do not have that luxury. We need guaranteed goals, and we need them now.
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Fair play. I certainly wouldn't be upset if we signed Auba.
 
Sammyjunn said:
He is as fast as Rashford, but his movement, finishing, consistent dribbling and technique is of a few highers.
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I think he's actually quite a bit faster than Rashford. Which sounds ridiculous since Rashford IS fast, but Mbappe is lightning.
 
Raoul said:
I don't really see too much of a difference between Mbappe and Rashford. The former has more goals (albeit in the French league) and the latter has been largely playing a secondary role behind Zlatan all year. If the roles were reversed, I'd have to say their numbers would be comparable.
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There is a big big difference, Mbappe has a much higher ceiling imo, and is already much better in every single aspect of his game, Rashford is a big talent in his own right but not comparable to a player who looks like he would have relatively failed if he doesn't at one point in time become one of the handful of great players in the world.
 
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