Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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We have Martial and Rashford. Do we need a third forward of the same cloth?

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking in the back of my mind but I suppose you don't pass up opportunities to sign such world class prospects. If we're getting rid of Rooney, Zlatan (or in a seasons time) and maybe Mata then that opens up a lot of space.
 
To be honest, I don't think we should buy him. We need finished articles. Griezmann or James Rodriguez.

Besides that, we have Martial and Rashford.
 
Ever since Jose came along, I'm more confident of us winning transfer battles against Madrid. As Long as Mbappe as no dreams of playing for Madrid I think we have a good chance of getting him.
 
If this comes off surely Di Marzio deserves recognition as a transfer oracle.
 
The last 2 summers we've splashed out on a shiny new French toy that hasn't reached expectations for one reason or another, not sure I want another one.
 
Ever since Jose came along, I'm more confident of us winning transfer battles against Madrid. As Long as Mbappe as no dreams of playing for Madrid I think we have a good chance of getting him.

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Damn, he's a Shanta fan. :(
 
I would be surprised if we went for him at the prices mentioned here. Potential has not been fulfilled too many a times and real life is not FM where money is of no value.

This boy shouldn't be worth more than the fees Dembele or Jesus went for (I.e. not more than 30 million imho). Otherwise there would be transfer fee pressure and also the young-quick-rich-slack-off-for-life attitude is something that may happen.

Also wanted to mention that just because United has inflated the market doesn't mean we have priced out all other teams. At the negotiating table, only actual interest from United is a bargaining chip. Selling clubs who want to cash out will still accept an offer that is reasonable.

Just because United paid 60 million for a player doesn't mean all clubs have to pay 60 million for another player whom you rate equally. Otherwise, no team will sell anyone until that player is bought by United. Not realistic since we have a squad of 25 only.

Hence, our effect on overall transfer fees is a tad exaggerated I feel. All we have done is allow the clubs we wish to purchase players from quote us ridiculously high fees - just like the Chinese teams. If we were not interested, such player might move for a fraction of the fee.
 
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I would be surprised if we went for him at the prices mentioned here. Potential has not been fulfilled too many a times and real life is not FM where money is of no value.

This boy shouldn't be worth more than the fees Dembele or Jesus went for (I.e. not more than 30 million imho). Otherwise there would be transfer fee pressure and also the young-quick-rich-slack-off-for-life attitude is something that may happen.

Also wanted to mention that just because United has inflated the market doesn't mean we have priced out all other teams. At the negotiating table, only actual interest from United is a bargaining chip. Selling clubs who want to cash out will still accept an offer that is reasonable.

Just because United paid 60 million for a player doesn't mean all clubs have to pay 60 million for another player whom you rate equally. Otherwise, no team will sell anyone until that player is bought by United. Not realistic since we have a squad of 25 only.

Hence, our effect on overall transfer fees is a tad exaggerated I feel. All we have done is allow the clubs we wish to purchase players from quote us ridiculously high fees - just like the Chinese teams. If we were not interested, such player might move for a fraction of the fee.

Once we pay an exorbitant amount for a player, the selling team now has an extraordinary transfer budget surplus. When they try to buy any other players, the sellers know that they have the injection of funds from United paying stupid prices, and will demand a higher price as well.

That's how the money gets passed through the market and causes a general rise in prices.
 
Besides, to go full Ronaldo you have to sign for United first.

Yea but the I'd rather we invest on someone who is here to stay for the long haul in the prime of his career like Griezmann as opposed to the possiblity of nurturing this incredible talent only to see him spend his prime Ballon D'or years elsewhere a la Ronaldo.
 
Yea but the I'd rather we invest on someone who is here to stay for the long haul in the prime of his career like Griezmann as opposed to the possiblity of nurturing this incredible talent only to see him spend his prime Ballon D'or years elsewhere a la Ronaldo.
I don't think this is a valid reason for not signing a player. For all we know, in 3-4 years time, we might be back among the best in the world competing for CL like Bayern. Madrid with Ronaldo and all their big stars getting old, might have a bit of a transition period. Didn't Madrid get knocked out of the last 16 round six times in a row before they bought Ronaldo. Besides, with the inflation in the market, it won't be that easy for Madrid to sign players from top English clubs.
 
Would he play RW or CF? Can't really see the point in replacing Martial with him.
 
I don't think this is a valid reason for not signing a player. For all we know, in 3-4 years time, we might be back among the best in the world competing for CL like Bayern. Madrid with Ronaldo and all their big stars getting old, might have a bit of a transition period. Didn't Madrid get knocked out of the last 16 round six times in a row before they bought Ronaldo. Besides, with the inflation in the market, it won't be that easy for Madrid to sign players from top English clubs.
No, I agree with @Art. How many times do we have to go over this? Madrid will have money for the player they are desperate for. They have the backing of Spanish banks. They took Ronaldo from us, might get DDG too. I dont see them buying young talents and nurturing them. We are still far behind these clubs and any genuine interest from them will make a player think. He will be an incredible signing but it will be difficult for us to hold on to him when in future, Madrid/Barca/Bayern start sniffing around. Better to invest in experienced players now to get us back on top.

EDIT: @SirFergie sorry my bad but I hope you got the point. Fixed it :)
 
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No, I agree with @Art. How many times do we have to go over this? Madrid will have money for the player they are desperate for. They have the backing of Spanish banks. They took Ronaldo from us, might get DDG too. I dont see them buying young talents and nurturing them. We are still far behind these clubs and any genuine interest from them will make a player think. He will be an incredible signing but it will be difficult for us to hold on to him when in future, big clubs start sniffing around. Better to invest in experienced players now to get us back on top.

We are richer than Madrid. Unless a player pushes to move, they won't leave. Ronaldo left to be closer to his family, we had just won the CL, which contradicts your point about buying players in their prime to get us back to the top, because we were, yet he still left. De Gea is still here.
 
No, I agree with @Art. How many times do we have to go over this? Madrid will have money for the player they are desperate for. They have the backing of Spanish banks. They took Ronaldo from us, might get DDG too. I dont see them buying young talents and nurturing them. We are still far behind these clubs and any genuine interest from them will make a player think. He will be an incredible signing but it will be difficult for us to hold on to him when in future, big clubs start sniffing around. Better to invest in experienced players now to get us back on top.

Remind me what Manchester United are again?
 
No, I agree with @Art. How many times do we have to go over this? Madrid will have money for the player they are desperate for. They have the backing of Spanish banks. They took Ronaldo from us, might get DDG too. I dont see them buying young talents and nurturing them. We are still far behind these clubs and any genuine interest from them will make a player think. He will be an incredible signing but it will be difficult for us to hold on to him when in future, big clubs start sniffing around. Better to invest in experienced players now to get us back on top.
We did sell Ronaldo. We might end up selling De Gea as well. But both the players have massively contributed to the club during the time they have been here. We won three league titles in a row and the CL with another CL final appearance during Ronaldo's time here. De Gea has been our player of the season for three years in a row. It's not like we have lost those players without them contributing to the club. If Mbappe stays here for 4-5 years (he'll be 23 then) and turns into the player we all think he has the potential to be, then that will more than make up for a later sale. Even if we sell him, it will be for a record fee so we can move on to a new player.

I'm all for getting bonafide superstars but we shouldn't miss out on such top talents as well. If it was a choice between getting a world class player in his prime or a player with huge potential, I would always choose the world class player. But it's not that simple always. We might end up signing both for all we know :drool:
 
No, I agree with @Art. How many times do we have to go over this? Madrid will have money for the player they are desperate for. They have the backing of Spanish banks. They took Ronaldo from us, might get DDG too. I dont see them buying young talents and nurturing them. We are still far behind these clubs and any genuine interest from them will make a player think. He will be an incredible signing but it will be difficult for us to hold on to him when in future, big clubs start sniffing around. Better to invest in experienced players now to get us back on top.

Well how often do forwards of the quality that Madrid/Barca/Bayern currently have become available? Very rarely.

A striker with that kind of potential rarely comes on the market, so we've pretty much no choice but to gamble on something like that if we do want to get back to the top.

Also, grow a pair.
 
We are richer than Madrid. Unless a player pushes to move, they won't leave. Ronaldo left to be closer to his family, we had just won the CL, which contradicts your point about buying players in their prime to get us back to the top, because we were, yet he still left. De Gea is still here.
I never compared Utd's finances with Madrid. All the riches, but DDG was about to sign for them in 2015. You just backed up what I said. We were on top, yet a player decided to leave us. As much as I hate it to say, but Madrid's pull is bigger than Utd's. Signing Griezmann now will improve us a lot, he is experienced enough to lead the line. We already have Rashford and Martial to develop. Young players need time to develop. Expectations are too high here and it will be wrong to put them on young shoulders.
 
Does anyone else half love the idea of rashford, martial and mmmbop as a fluid front 3? We'd score about 0.8 goals per game but we would scare the shit out of defences when they were on their game.
 
If it comes down to a straight contest between RM and United we can outbid them. RM are having to rebuild their ground and have to replace a lot of players all at once - the core of their team is all the wrong side of 30.

City will be the ones to watch.
 
Jesus, if that bid actually happened we must be absolutely convinced this guy is the biggest talent in the world. Or rather, the biggest talent in generations. I mean, would 18 year old Messi have be valued at 110 million in today's market? I'm not exactly convinced
But no one knew he would become Messi.:)
 
Not at the expense of Griezmann if given the choice although if we miss out on top 4 we could be forced to shop elsewhere. Top 4 and Griezmann for me with this fella as the cherry on top.
 
The last 2 summers we've splashed out on a shiny new French toy that hasn't reached expectations for one reason or another, not sure I want another one.
What expectations did you have? Martial was fantastic last season and Pogba isn't even here a season so you can't say he hasn't reached expectations.
 
Well how often do forwards of the quality that Madrid/Barca/Bayern currently have become available? Very rarely.

A striker with that kind of potential rarely comes on the market, so we've pretty much no choice but to gamble on something like that if we do want to get back to the top.

Also, grow a pair.
Let me know about the teenagers who led the line for Madrid/Barca/Bayern and please dont quote Messi. Last I remember was a 21 year old Benzema signing for Madrid and taking up goal scoring duties. They have most lethal attacks in the world because they have players in their prime putting the ball in the back of the nets. Lewy, Suarez, Mandzukic, David Villa were all experienced enough. Agreed he has a lot of potential and it would be almost criminal to pass up this opportunity, but is another young striker our need of the hour? Also, please try to understand someone's viewpoint before accusing him/her of being a pessimist/coward/(the word you actually had in mind).

We did sell Ronaldo. We might end up selling De Gea as well. But both the players have massively contributed to the club during the time they have been here. We won three league titles in a row and the CL with another CL final appearance during Ronaldo's time here. De Gea has been our player of the season for three years in a row. It's not like we have lost those players without them contributing to the club. If Mbappe stays here for 4-5 years (he'll be 23 then) and turns into the player we all think he has the potential to be, then that will more than make up for a later sale. Even if we sell him, it will be for a record fee so we can move on to a new player.

I'm all for getting bonafide superstars but we shouldn't miss out on such top talents as well. If it was a choice between getting a world class player in his prime or a player with huge potential, I would always choose the world class player. But it's not that simple always. We might end up signing both for all we know :drool:
Agreed with everything. They contributed heavily. You know the muppet season is near and we can hope for both of them :D. I am just not convinced considering our situation. We are a club in transition and after 3 years have found our way. Ronaldo and DDG when bought had a settled environment. Look how Martial is being affected due to competition. We are fielding full strength squads even in domestic cups. Its just my opinion and a lot of posters are disagreeing with me and rightly so because it could be a blunder to let Mbappe join Madrid.
 
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Let me know about the teenagers who led the line for Madrid/Barca/Bayern and please dont quote Messi. Last I remember was a 21 year old Benzema signing for Madrid and taking up goal scoring duties. They have most lethal attacks in the world because they have players in their prime putting the ball in the back of the nets. Lewy, Suarez, Mandzukic, David Villa were all experienced enough. Agreed he has a lot of potential and it would be almost criminal to pass up this opportunity, but is another young striker our need of the hour? Also, please try to understand someone's viewpoint before accusing him/her of being a pessimist/coward/(the word you actually had in mind).


Agreed with everything. They contributed heavily. You know the muppet season is near and we can hope for both of them :D. I am just not convinced considering our situation. We are a club in transition and after 3 years have found our way. Ronaldo and DDG when bought had a settled environment. Look how Martial is being affected due to competition. We are fielding full strength squads even in domestic cups. Its just my opinion and a lot of posters are disagreeing with me and rightly so because it could be a blunder to let Mbappe join Madrid.
We're the richest club in the world, buy him and two more
 
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