You're about as consistent as Carrick and Scholes in the crock of shit you continually spout.
Kwadwo Asamoah
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You're about as consistent as Carrick and Scholes in the crock of shit you continually spout.
Their being home grown won't matter. United simply won't be selling a player they gave a 5 year extension after just one season. Especially not after the way he and Cleverley started their injury blighted season last time around.
Being homegrown does give you advantages due to the EPL rules (which include the 25 player rule). If someone has to go to make space for new players then I fear that it would either be Fletch (retiring) or Ando.
It wont. Anderson fits our home grown criteria. He's been here since he was 19. Just perish the thought of him leaving.
I don't think so. You must have passed 3 years in the team (Academy, reserves etc) prior reaching age 21 to qualify as homegrown. I am not saying that he'll be the one to leave. However if we need to make space for new players then it will either be Ando or Fletch (due to retirement).
Any player who has been registered domestically for at least three years before their 21st birthday is classed as home grown. Being in the academy or reserves isn't the only criteria.
Anderson just missed out as a result.
Then Anderson wouldn't fit.
A newb was kind enough to PM me some info about the player
Sounds good.. so the next question... are we signing him or is it just paper talk?
Leonetti said:
Sounds good.. so the next question... are we signing him or is it just paper talk?
Udinese live to sell footballers, if someone wants him he'll be gone. His agent says he's getting the 'want to sell' vibes from Udinese.
Doesnt just sound good, sounds ridiculous.
In the very limited amount I've seen him he doesnt look half the player Alonso is. Plus he's definitely more offensive minded, while he did make the third highest tackles for his team last season one of the very main things he does is he likes to go on a dribble forward.
Cant understand the patience with Anderson on here, I like the kid but he cant go two months without an injury ffs. If he doesnt stay fit progress himself and the team then he needs to go next summer.
talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120604/juventus-pip-manchester-united-udinese-star-173611
Juventus on talks with udinese re asamoah according to talkshite
Juventus on talks with udinese re asamoah according to talkshite
I can't see us buying a big name midfielder at this point. I can see Fergie's logic of expecting Scholes, Fletch, Cleverly, and Ando all coming back to compete for playing time along side Carrick.
And break down again ? Fergie clearly wants to buy a midfielder, but I think the biggest problem is the transfer kitty. I fear we have no money to spend this year.
I've been a united fan for 30 years and your post has depressed me nearly as much as us losing the title in 1992.
And its been written in stars that we will get battered by 2nd rate European teams with that midfield.
The fact is we have invested time in Cleverley and time and money in Anderson. Unless he sells one of them, which I just can't see him doing, then there really isn't space for another midfielder.
Surely one of them is going to have a bit of luck and hit a patch where they go injury free for a while. Imagine we did buy another midfielder and had everyone fit. We just couldn't keep them all happy, especially if we found a winning combination.
It's frustrating because history tells us that Cleverley and Anderson will struggle once again to string anything more than 5 games together, but while they are still young, you have to keep faith. Fletcher had the same trouble and came good, Rooney used to be out for long spells each season til he was 23/24 as well although he obviously still managed to play a lot per season being an automatic choice.
Surely one of them is going to have a bit of luck and hit a patch where they go injury free for a while. Imagine we did buy another midfielder and had everyone fit. We just couldn't keep them all happy, especially if we found a winning combination.
It's frustrating because history tells us that Cleverley and Anderson will struggle once again to string anything more than 5 games together, but while they are still young, you have to keep faith. Fletcher had the same trouble and came good, Rooney used to be out for long spells each season til he was 23/24 as well although he obviously still managed to play a lot per season being an automatic choice.
Or just proven as a fact last season.
If we don't buy this summer we truly are in decline in terms of ability to compete for signings.
What? We had a bid accepted for Hazard, we have bid for Kagawa. The no money thing is really starting to grate. We spent over 50 million last season so we have the money. Obviously upto now either Ferguson has felt that we don't need a midfielder or that the right player hasn't become available
I don't see the funds as a problem, given that we were obviously willing to splash the cash to buy Hazard. Its more of an issue of Fergie's logic. With Scholes, Fletch, Ando, and Cleverly all in the mix (not to mention Giggs and Park available), I can easily see Fergie thinking "If the ideal player isn't available this summer, then I'll just wait until next summer when Giggs and Scholes move on). If we were legitimately interested in the likes of Asamoah, Martinez, etc, then we would be putting more of an effort into getting them. I just don't think that's the case.
So juve have taken Pogba from us and are now going to use him as part of a deal to beat us to asamoah...marvellous.
Why are you lumping Cleverley and Anderson in one criteria? Cleverley hardly has an injury prone background. His injury was the result of that shite bastard Kevin Davies and nothing to do with breaking down.
Anderson on the other hand is frustrating both on and off the pitch.
Are you joking or have you not followed his progress for the last 5 years?
Ghanaweb says he'd prefer a move to United
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/soccer/artikel.php?ID=240854
Not sure what the Kenyan Post's take on it is mind.
Does anyone else think that the decision for scholes to stay on for another season means no central midfielder this season.
The players we have made official bids for are attacking players kagawa and hazard.so at least fergie sees the desire for creativity. Asamoah would be a great signing IMHO
The players we have made official bids for are attacking players kagawa and hazard.so at least fergie sees the desire for creativity. Asamoah would be a great signing IMHO
Not sure but i'm just waiting for comments from Gill that SAF will only buy someone that would improve the team.
We went for Sneijder last year and this year Hazard so unless there is someone as good then i can only imagine that we might just stick with the current squad.
I've said for the last two years that I didn't think we'd sign a midfielder and I still believe this. Fergie has more patience than the supporters and I wouldn't be surprised if he still sees Anderson was Sholes' successor. I also think we have too many numbers in CM, oddly enough. Whilst they're all here then I can't see us adding.
Is what I've said for a few years.
Carrick - a key player
Anderson - don't think Sir Alex has given up on him yet
Scholes - back
Cleverley - needs games to develope
Fletcher - Sir Alex will give him every chance to recover and come back, and rightly so
Giggs - still around
Jones - an option in midfield too
As long as all of them still around, I don't think there's room for another midfielder.
If we can't get a top top player, surely we should be getting someone with potential to develop into one?
Not at this point in time. We have Anderson, Cleverley, two senior players with "potential to develop," if we get another midfielder I hope it is a 26-27 year old who can come in and make an impact.
You didn't see that coming, did you?
I highly doubt Asamoah is the answer to all our problems so let Juve have him afaic
Cleverley's nothing like Anderson. Here are his appearance stats with Watford and Wigan.
Watford (loan) league appearances 33 cup competitions 2 = 35 in total
Wigan Athletic league appearances 25
He had a few niggling injuries with Wigan and a season ending knee ligament injury with Watford. Cleverley's worst season for appearances is last season with United due to the Kevin Davies tackle. That's an average 30 appearances for Wigan and Watford a season which for teams who don't have European football or get to far in the cup competitions is decent. Cleverley's more like Welbeck in terms of injuries as a young, developing footballer than Anderson IMO and could easily be a reliable member of the first team squad. It's to early to brand him with the injury prone label yet. Welbeck has shown that this season for United and I still have hopes Rafael and Fabio will do the same.
Carrick - key player
Anderson - cant/shouldn't be relied upon
Scholes - good enough but needs to play limited games
Cleverley - shouldn't be relied upon
Fletcher - shouldn't be relied upon
Giggs - should be used very sparingly
Jones - not a cm, at least not right now
The problem isn't numbers, it's quality
If we don't buy anyone else, it will be because Fergie thinks he has enough players to make it work. We don't know how the return of Anderson, Cleverly, and Fletcher will affect our midfield dynamics. Saying they should be relied upon isn't a valid argument to cancel them from consideration. For all we know, all three will be healthy and rested for next year, which in addition to Scholes and Carrick will be enough.
I'm sure that was his thinking last year and we all saw how that worked out. As terrible as it is to say we have no room for sentiment, we clearly need more quality in the center and one of Giggs/Fletcher/Anderson need go to make room for another midfielder. Going in to the season without at least cover for Carrick would be insane.
Expect more batterings next season then.