@Solius @golden_blunder @jojojo @Damien Can you guys please ban this guy? Making light of animal abuse is disgusting.
Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
Kurt, how do you post on the Caf & play at the same time?
There needs to be pressure through petitions and the likes to make sure this cnut never plays again.
I thought I couldn’t hate Moyes than I already did but nope he truly is a disposable scum bag, Zouma goes straight back into the first team.
The BBC player ratings for their game. 
We live in a world where Cavani can get a ban for using his own language in a friendly manner and yet someone can perform literal animal abuse and receive no punishment. Priorities are all completely wrong and highlight exactly what’s wrong with the FA but also some reflections of wider society.
Slightly off topic but less depressing than most of this thread. I have a mini golden doodle (originally my fiancées) that is about 10kg/22lb that loves rough housing. It is hilarious, she’s this pretty little diva who tries to wrestle me like 4 times a day. Growing up we had big, big, alpha male dogs who loved to play rough with my dad, when he finally met our little one last year he couldn’t believe how feisty she was. If you say “put em up” and do an exaggerated boxing stance she sits upright on her back legs and tries to box you
We also have a 25kg/55lb boxer/husky/lab mutt. He loves wrestling the big dogs in our neighbourhood but he absolutely hates rough play with a person. He used to get upset when we’d do it with his “sister”, now he kind of joins in , or stands behind her and paws, bites at her to play with him, but he only wants gentle interactions with people. He’s a rescue, so we don’t know if he was abused before us.
Hope with posts like that you never progress beyond being a newbie.
What a load of absolute cobblers.
Seconded
How the feck do you kick and then throw shoes at a cat without malicious intent?
I eat chicken but I would never harm one.
Playing doesn't mean kicking it or slapping it off the table. There is a big gap between those 2 actions.
You never owned a pet and don't have a clue about what loving a dog or a cat like a family member means, that's your problem.
He's 27, not 17. Idiot. Seems like since the year started there's a crazy thing some football player does every 3 days.
Abusing defenseless animals gets my blood boiling.. and you'd need to be truly disturbed to have a kid holding it up infront of you so you can slap the shit out of it. Anyone defending or downplaying this can go feck themselves as well, fecking cnuts.
West Ham should be getting heavy criticism for playing him today.
It's not a coincidence that there are only two words to make from the letters G O and D....
That's what I was thinking. But even if there's no malicious intent, it's still fecking horrible that he thinks doing this is fun? There's no way to defend this yet some people do some mental gymnastics to do just that
It absolutely is.
Spoilsport...
Has anyone snapped his shin yet?
It's worth a lengthy ban for whoever does it.
It's worth a lengthy ban for whoever does it.
A kick and a good slap should suffice.
What an idiot... I’m lost for words. Such people should be banned straight away and face criminal charges for animal cruelty. Have two cats and this makes me so angry.
Well, we literally have skin in the game. Somewhere around a hundred billion humans have existed, and around half of those were killed by mosquitoes. Given they've eradicated one in every two humans since we became human, I wouldn't exactly say they're "beneath us," but we do have a legitimate beef against them.
One other quick point. To the poster who says we shouldn't keep pets because it isn't their natural habitat, they're domesticated by definition, so living alongside and with humans is their natural habitat. They might survive away from us, some individuals more than others, but domesticated animals are a very different thing than wild ones.
Obviously...a stray dog or cat would never live as long as a domesticated one, without a healthy diet, vet check, love, lack of stress etc.
Yeah it's laughable isn't it... the FA are absolute clowns. West Ham should be fined and Zouma suspended right away hopefully followed by a charge by the police for animal abuse.
Send this thing over to Kurt Zoumas house.
Double spoiler that shit!Send this thing over to Kurt Zoumas house.
First of all, there are lot of vegetarians that would never hurt even a bug.
Second, you are talking like it is no big deal kicking around cats and animals. Where does your red line go?
Third, malicious or not. You don't do that. You can apply the same to humans. You don't kick or hurt humans for fun. And if you do that, you are not normal.
Forth, not dropping a player after this says a lot about your character as it does with Moyes and West Ham.
Not that it matters (it absolutely does not), but I can believe that.
I'm still shocked he played in the NFL again.
so West Ham started him tonight, less than 24h after this shit came to light, and nobody bats an eye. All will be forgotten soon and I can't see many serious consequences for Zouma, but he's a vile idiot.
It doesn't say much about character, it was a business decision. If United could have gotten away with playing Mason tonight, we would have, but the public outcry would have been ruinous to the bottom line. This incident doesn't move the needle that much, they must have reasoned.
Maybe if sponsors drop then they'll reconsider.
I genuinely CANNOT believe Moyes chose to play him today. Could you even associate with someone like that?
Oh get fecked what manager that has -ever- managed our club would pick that guy ever again?
Every time I think I've read the stupidest post, another one comes along to try and top it.
I get it was business decision but that says lot. He would rather play a player instead of actually suspend him for abnormal behaviour. That for me is lack of character.
As West Ham decided it was ok for him playing, we could easly done the same with Greenwood. But we are lucky to have some kind of moral that we know it would be a wrong thing to do.
Well I mean this can devolve into a grander philosophical discussion about whether the purpose of incarceration is ultimately punitive or for rehabilitation. He was convicted and served his sentence and by all accounts subsequently has been contrite and a model member of society - do you not think he should be allowed to play in the NFL on that basis? Is the purpose of prison solely to punish and not to allow for reform?
Oh no I am all for reformation (see the thread about the bloke who was ruled a rapist in civil court for my arguments in favor of rehabilitation)
I am just shocked that in the US he played again, I thought the public reaction would be too visceral. What he did was heinous. And to dogs.