Who reported a few months ago that everyone is up for sale but except for the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho and Rasmus etc? If that came from Tier 1 source then it’d be interesting to understand what has changed in this short period? Is it really FFP or Amorim perhaps doesn’t rate these kids as highly as most fans are led to believe?
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Tbf I don't think any player should ever be "untouchable" if the right offer comes in.
The key question is how much money constitutes the right offer. It would need to be a lot.
What a daft response.
What's controversial about that line ? Mainoo is negotiating a new contract and has yet to agree new terms on a contract that expires 2.5 years from now.
Exactly this. I see the bed wetters are out in full force, as usual, but unless you have prime Messi, then no-one should be untouchable. This is merely part of the cultural reset, and is necessary because we've previously briefed - under the last manager and CEO - that certain players are untouchable. Which creates entirely the wrong culture. Everyone has to adhere to the highest standards, no-one is above being dropped or sold. Mainoo and Yoro, for example, are key parts of our future, but only if they fulfill their potential. If they are told from day one that they are untouchable, that's entirely the wrong message to send. Where would the hunger come from? We won't sell either of those two, and I doubt we'll sell any of our highest rated young players, but the fact still remains that everyone should be fighting for their place, ALL the time.
Agree to an extent, but this definitely looks like a club brief, for whatever angle they are playing. I can easily see Gernacho sold, he just is not a No10 or No9.
I don't think Garnacho will be here long, I can see him being sold in the summer back to Atletico
Agree he's not a 9 or a 10, but he is an 11 and is probably going to develop into a pretty good one given his age, especially with a top manager coaching him. The question for United is do we lose both Rashord and Garnacho ? Seems highly unlikely. If anything, we keep Garnacho and still buy another winger.
if we sell him, I might have to take a break from following United.
He plays a position where we are very poor. He’s an up-and-coming talented star. Future England national team regular. That would be very glazer of us to sell one of our best assets for actually winning in the future because they value dividends more than winning
He plays a position where we are very poor. He’s an up-and-coming talented star. Future England national team regular. That would be very glazer of us to sell one of our best assets for actually winning in the future because they value dividends more than winning
Let's be real - it's 3.5 years, not 2.5 years. That optional year is only there in case a player becomes useless to us.
I don't understand why we need to start briefing the press about uncertainty over his future contract, and a reluctant acceptance to sell him at the right price, when there is no impending pressure to do so right now. How about trying to shift almost every other player in the squad before looking at our most talented academy product in well over decade. I would expect us to be a bit more transfer-savvy than this.
Let me go ahead and say it - FECK INEOS! feck Glazers and feck their enablers INEOS.
Selling Garna is already a blow, but somewhat mitigated by the fact that he may not fit in Amorim system, anyway. Selling Mainoo is absolutely not excusable.
Selling Garna is already a blow, but somewhat mitigated by the fact that he may not fit in Amorim system, anyway. Selling Mainoo is absolutely not excusable.
I agree, which is why this story is complete clickbait nonsense.
Calm down, we haven't actually sold anyone
Yep we just can't lose both of them, Anthony and Casimero. Unless we have some sold transfers lined up in the attacking and midfield positions.
I automatically assumed The Athletic didn't indulge in clickbait shit.
Aye, and if Mainoo's agent leaked the Chelsea link to negotiate then this is the perfect reply from the club.
I think people need to understand that this sliver of a story has gained legs because of how much hysterical United fans have engaged with it.
You only have to look at some of the responses in this thread to see that. I don't have twitter anymore, but I imagine there's some full meltdowns going on in the comments of these tweets.
You only have to look at some of the responses in this thread to see that. I don't have twitter anymore, but I imagine there's some full meltdowns going on in the comments of these tweets.
They don't this is clearly a brief.
I was told this in person in on 12th December that Chelsea would test us with £100m on Mainoo this summer (made a thread on it at the time), so I'm finding it weird that suddenly we have reports that we'd consider an offer and Chelsea happen to be a club interested.
Obviously people can choose to not believe me but the person who told me doesn't even care for football much and never gives inside information .I know they have very established links with chief financial officers - we both laughed it off at the time nonetheless. But now we are hearing these reports almost as though United know they may get a big offer for Mainoo and are testing the waters to see how the reaction would be or seeing whether they can bring Chelsea's intentions formally to the table.
Either that or it's bollocks and standard contract negotiations. I truly hope it's the latter, just find it an eery coincidence on my personal experience.
I may have thought that a couple of years ago, but the nature of football journalism is so competitive that even the likes of Ornstein and his contemporaries are in fierce competition with one another to remain at the top of the food chain. This is why every story is taken with a massive pinch of salt, especially ones by aggregator sites.
I imagine once Amad’s deal is done, Kobbie’s will follow shortly after. Probably March time.
Garnacho is probably more likely out than in, though.
Garnacho is probably more likely out than in, though.
No news media is immune to clickbait shit. Everyone wants eyes on them.
nothing story. Oh, there's not been development re: a new deal with a player that is technically under contract for the next 3.5 years? Oh, the horror 
they'll surely get something done once Amads contract is done.
they'll surely get something done once Amads contract is done.
Considering Garnacho's current contract length, age and lack of injuries, we should be demanding almost double what Chelsea received for Mount. We're in a strong negotiation position.
Mainoo should be off the table regardless of whether he signs a new contract before the summer.
Fans losing their minds on twitter without actually thinking logically. No player is untouchable, if chelsea bid £100-150mil then we would probably accept and he would go. Not as if we're selling him this month.
Can't we have one quiet week without some form of hysteria
Can't we have one quiet week without some form of hysteria
Settle down. Would you rather we came out and said everyone has a price expect for Kobbie Mainoo, basically telling him he has already made it and needn't try any more.
This is a difficult one. On one hand the essence of Manchester United is in bringing through our own players but on the other hand if we are really in a dire state financially then maybe it's time for us to take the difficult decisions for a while to get the house in order.
They wouldn't survive if it was just sensible people paying the subs. You only have to look at the comment section on most of the articles. Might as well be twitter.
aye. use the same on my kids.
I made the mistake of not doing that and now I have no authority.
Well they all have 2yrs to settle on terms. If reports are accurate and he’s currently on £20k a week then something like QUADRUPLING THAT TO £80,000 per week would be an amazing offer.
Put performance related clause and staggered wage increases to grease the wheel.
Put performance related clause and staggered wage increases to grease the wheel.
sell 25% of your parenting rights to ratcliffe. he’ll come and sort them out/make them redundant.
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They are sorting Amad’s first.
It’s pure clickbait and provides no insight whatsoever
Sitting in the worst Premier league position we've ever had while demanding more money isn't a strong position. Want to go to the Chelsea circus for a bit more money? Go ahead but we'll charge high.
Its a fake story, but even if it wasn't who cares. Nobody in this team has proven to be worth getting sentimental over
Its a fake story, but even if it wasn't who cares. Nobody in this team has proven to be worth getting sentimental over
I think we, the fans, are often times the club's worst enemy. Kicking up a stink over the possibility of a sale that might or might not happen will only weaken the club's bargaining position. It's been reported for weeks that his contract talks haven't gone smoothly and this, if it's a brief, is to tell his agent that we won't hesitate to sell him if we can't agree on a new deal.
If he and his agent are demanding something obscene like 200k then we sell him, simple as because we know what bending over backwards has done to kids we previously had high hopes for. If we get big bid and he goes I think we now have a credible team here to ensure that we come out on the other side with a stronger team. Ideally he stays but we shouldn't give him a ridiculous salary to get to that.
If he and his agent are demanding something obscene like 200k then we sell him, simple as because we know what bending over backwards has done to kids we previously had high hopes for. If we get big bid and he goes I think we now have a credible team here to ensure that we come out on the other side with a stronger team. Ideally he stays but we shouldn't give him a ridiculous salary to get to that.
Has Orstein ever reported something as seemingly rubbish as this?
A few more weeks they'll be 18 and I can evict them.
David Ornstein has never been about clickbait so your initial inclination is correct
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Sorry son but we’ve not seen any financial gains from your involvement in the family. You are an academy product so represent pure profit if we sell you. Uncle Jim has said he’ll give us 3 shillings for a short term loan so he can perform chemical experiments then we’ll review your status in the summer.