It wasn't to Mainoo specifically, and for the record I'm firmly in the camp that's vehemently opposed to selling him.Ideally, yes. But a latest example of Ineos' attempts to be shrewd in the transfer market was the Zirkzee signing, so I would need more evidence of our scouting and recruitment being bolsted before I backed them on selling Mainoo. Also, if your 'players who've not proven anything' comment was specifically referring to Mainoo then that is simply not true.
You absolutely cannot.Of course you can. Chelsea have done it with lots of players.
If you tell a player that they aren't wanted and refuse to play them they will move elsewhere eventually. Unless they are Winston Bogarde.
Jamie Jackson.
You would give him those wages?Absolutely bonkers how many posters would countenance selling Mainoo. Not that I believe these stories but still, I really don't understand modern football fans.
Losing a homegrown local lad with his talent, at this stage of his career, would be devastating.
That has to be bullshit though.
As far as I'm aware whatever money the club would receive for Zirkzee, Mazraoui, Yoro, Ugarte, Hojlund, De Ligt even players like Mount, Antony or Martinez would be offset against whatever amortisation was left from their original deals. Even if they broke even on sales for those players. The reality is that Utd would financially gain very little from selling any of those. So, there's really no point selling any of them to try and raise money.
I have to assume that anybody who says they don't understand why Manchester United even considering selling 19 year old wonderkid, product of its own academy is a travesty is either completely ignorant of United's entire history and identity or is trolling.Absolutely bonkers how many posters would countenance selling Mainoo. Not that I believe these stories but still, I really don't understand modern football fans.
Losing a homegrown local lad with his talent, at this stage of his career, would be devastating.
You'd imagine the 200k demands are a negotiation tactic by Mainoo's camp and we can settle on around 120-150k eventually. Hopefully we aren't genuinely open to selling him without first putting in the hours to negotiate a fair pay rise.It wasn't to Mainoo specifically, and for the record I'm firmly in the camp that's vehemently opposed to selling him.
Just more of a general stance. As for Mainoo I'd love to keep him, but if the stories of him demanding £200k are remotely true, then we shouldn't be succumbing like we always do.
120-150k is absolutely mental money to be throwing at Mainoo..You'd imagine the 200k demands are a negotiation tactic by Mainoo's camp and we can settle on around 120-150k eventually. Hopefully we aren't genuinely open to selling him without first putting in the hours to negotiate a fair pay rise.
I don't think 120k is mental by any means. Not when you compare it to United peers or other players across the league120-150k is absolutely mental money to be throwing at Mainoo..
Indeed. When you consider Ugarte who is on around £120k120-150k is absolutely mental money to be throwing at Mainoo..
You should hate the media and its effect on you. More than enough reasons to be mad at the club, no need to extend it to non-storiesCan't have even three days of enjoying a good performance without the fecking club shitting all over us.
Tomorrow they'll be selling statues around the stadium for scrap to raise some cash.
I think I hate our club.
If Chelsea are offering 150M, why not?Not as if we're selling him this month.
Why is that? He is a midfielder who, for the past 12 months, has essentially been a guaranteed starter for a club who has CL qualification as their mininum expectation going into every season. What am I missing?120-150k is absolutely mental money to be throwing at Mainoo..
He is 19. I wouldn't call 120k mental but I don't think, there is a need for that. If we give him 120k at 20, how much are you going to give him with his next raise and then the next one. I think it is important for United to make a statement - the days of crazy wages should be gone. I am a bit sorry for Mainoos timing, I'd rather give it to him than to Maguire or Rashford but it is, what it is. Go excessive on performance based bonus if necessaryI don't think 120k is mental by any means. Not when you compare it to United peers or other players across the league
He's 19, but he was the first name on the team sheet last season and I'm sure we all hope he soon will be again. I get what you mean with future negotiations, but you shouldn't pay his age, you should pay his performance and role in the teamHe is 19. I wouldn't call 120k mental but I don't think, there is a need for that. If we give him 120k at 20, how much are you going to give him with his next raise and then the next one. I think it is important for United to make a statement - the days of crazy wages should be gone. I am a bit sorry for Mainoos timing, I'd rather give it to him than to Maguire or Rashford but it is, what it is. Go excessive on performance based bonus if necessary
I don't think 120k is mental by any means. Not when you compare it to United peers or other players across the league
You certainly have a point and I agree, as a starter he should be earning accordingly. But at the same time, we are a midtable club at the moment and we shouldn't pay as if we'd be playing for the CL every year. It certainly is a dilemma and I hope, we can get creative - be it possibly a shorter contract length, some sort of step salary or what not. But the mistakes of the past shouldn't dictate the future. If money is so important to him in the near future, than I'd rather see him walk than to let ourselves get pressured.He's 19, but he was the first name on the team sheet last season and I'm sure we all hope he soon will be again. I get what you mean with future negotiations, but you shouldn't pay his age, you should pay his performance and role in the team
He is a midfielder who, for the past 12 months, has essentially been a guaranteed starter for a club who has CL qualification as their mininum expectation. What am I missing?
And to add to that - we have to be consequential from now on. There is no point in taking staunch stances when talking to player A while throwing it out there for player B because of bad planning or a streak of form.You certainly have a point and I agree, as a starter he should be earning accordingly. But at the same time, we are a midtable club at the moment and we shouldn't pay as if we'd be playing for the CL every year. It certainly is a dilemma and I hope, we can get creative - be it possibly a shorter contract length, some sort of step salary or what not. But the mistakes of the past shouldn't dictate the future. If money is so important to him in the near future, than I'd rather see him walk than to let ourselves get pressured.
Agree.
While in principle there might be a "everyone is for sale at the right price" attitude in the club, selling someone like Yoro makes so little financial sense as to effectively be off the table.
Yes but you must accept every player has a price? I have no doubts agents offer young players from other clubs, in particular, stupid sums all the time but the Chelsea link is maybe the only one which would seem a bit sill yon that front as they have rejigged their salary levels to have huge performance based add ons and low bases (so we would surely be able to match that). The fear would be if someone with a Woodward mindset was at Chelsea and was ready to just give something stupid like £200k.We are not talking fairy tales. We are talking about most reliable transfer journalist saying there is real approach from Chelsea being considered
It's great following a club where even when nothing is happening a bit of drama can be stirred up on the back of loose speculation and anxious fans.He’s got 3.5 years left on his deal.
It doesn’t take much to make everyone panic.
He's 19, but he was the first name on the team sheet last season and I'm sure we all hope he soon will be again. I get what you mean with future negotiations, but you shouldn't pay his age, you should pay his performance and role in the team
You really think Mainoo could be a one season wonder? Surely you must've watched enough of him to know that his ceiling is way higher than that.That he’s 19 with about one full season at the club, which despites it’s ambitions for CL qualification is miles away from actually competing for qualification. I think he has huge potential, but we don’t even have much indication of how he’s progressing and what his future will be like under Amorim. He could just as easily turn out to be a one season wonder for us, like so many others in the past. The notion that we should be throwing that sort of money at someone that young and inexperienced, who is already on a long term contract, seems completely mad. Imagine trying to sell him 1,5 year from now if his form completely collapses and he’s on that sort of money. I have no idea how any fans can argue that he’s actually worth that type of money at this stage of his career.
Well unfortunately for you they didn’t make a serious offer to buy the club, so I’m unsure why you would even consider them an option?So this is what he meant by putting the Manchester back into Manchester United??? Qatar is looking more appetising by the day
Get real. Not a chance he's signing a contract worth £30-45k a week.I know we are all getting riled up over some speculation, but rewarding him more than an extra 10k-25k would just be repeating the same mistakes over again.
Get real. Not a chance he's signing a contract worth £30-45k a week.
He played 2/3rds of the league games and some important cup games. He’s a very good player and deserves the increase… the mistakes we’ve made haven’t been rewarding good players/performances, it’s been rewarding rubbish. Two different things.Let’s get it right, Kobbie had half a good season last year, the other half he was injured. This season he has been part of a team currently sitting in the bottom half of the table.
I know we are all getting riled up over some speculation, but rewarding him more than an extra 10k-25k would just be repeating the same mistakes over again.
Amad is out of contract so he gets a new improved one.
