Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager

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Maybe Anfield Road needs more female fans to improve the atmosphere. They wouldn´t need 80 minutes to figure out that the guys in the red jerseys are the Reds. :lol:
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feck me that blonde in the middle.

Liverpool fans seem to be getting way too ahead of themselves here. No surprise considering a year a go Brendan Rodgers was the next Ferguson.
 
'The charismatic Indie Jesus': the press goes bonkers over 'Top Kop Fop Klopp' etc etc ~

In his piece for The Sun, Howard had described Klopp as ‘Mr Charming’ and ‘Mr Charisma’ within his first two paragraphs. Descriptions such as ‘the magnetic German’, the ‘miracle worker’ and ‘Superman, SuperKlopp’ soon followed...
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http://www.football365.com/news/jurgen-klopp-a-collective-bumming
 
The notion of Liverpool fans getting ahead of themselves is rubbish. It's just excitement, which is allowed and a reasonable response to what's happened this week. If you can't get excited then why follow football? What's the alternative, shrug shoulders and turn the channel?

What is obvious is that many didn't see this coming and it's put noses out of joint.
 
PickledRed said:
The notion of Liverpool fans getting ahead of themselves is rubbish. It's just excitement, which is allowed and a reasonable response to what's happened this week. If you can't get excited then why follow football? What's the alternative, shrug shoulders and turn the channel?

What is obvious is that many didn't see this coming and it's put noses out of joint.
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welcome back

and yes. you're not allowed to get excited about anything because you support liverpool.

just kidding, klopp from rodgers is definitely a step up so I can definitely understand the positive reactions
 
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PickledRed said:
The notion of Liverpool fans getting ahead of themselves is rubbish. It's just excitement, which is allowed and a reasonable response to what's happened this week. If you can't get excited then why follow football? What's the alternative, shrug shoulders and turn the channel?

What is obvious is that many didn't see this coming and it's put noses out of joint.
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Welcome back. Lighten up.

This thread is packed full of universal acclaim for Klopp and even praise for Liverpool for pulling off the deal. A very fair and respectful response considering what the LFC reaction tends to be when something positive happens at our club. Hint, the chippiness and bitterness in your posts gives a clue. Then again I'd probably be the same if I'd spent the last two years of my life on a Man United forum running a failed PR campaign for a fraud like Rodgers. Well done on that by the way. Shame you didn't stick around to do it when he needed it most. ;)
 
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Kraftwerker said:
Welcome back. Lighten up.

This thread is packed full of universal acclaim for Klopp and even praise for Liverpool for pulling off the deal. A very fair and respectful response considering what the LFC reaction tends to be when something positive happens at our club. Hint, the chippiness and bitterness in your posts gives a clue. Then again I'd probably be the same if I'd spent the last two years of my life on a Man United forum running a failed PR campaign for a fraud like Rodgers. Well done on that by the way. Shame you didn't stick around to do it when he needed it most. ;)
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Yeah, stupid me enjoying a title challenge and daring to use that to praise the man who managed such a fine season. It going wrong doesn't make me wrong for enjoying Rodgers as manager.

The hindsight police are here...the internet's safe...
 
:lol: That's some shit overpriced shirts. I like the 'Normal One' one though, its half way decent.
 
Gonna be honest, I'm jealous. Would love to have had Klopp here. He could be amazing for Liverpool. He'll certainly be entertaining.
 
PickledRed said:
Yeah, stupid me enjoying a title challenge and daring to use that to praise the man who managed such a fine season. It going wrong doesn't make me wrong for enjoying Rodgers as manager.

The hindsight police are here...the internet's safe...
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Suarez deserves all the praise in the world.

Not hindsight police. We said it all along.
 
Precaution said:
i think alot of guys here are selling Klopp short abit, he is an excellent manager and has achieved very well, obviously doesn't look too good on him that BvB are doing well (really well) this season after last season but then you can ask the same about Chelsea and their reverse, it's football, it happens! Klopp will improve Liverlol to a much higher extent than Brenton could ever achieve, he'll attract a far greater ranger of clientele (a few from Real Madrid as a favor from the Spanish Waiter) so whatever happens, id be very happy (well not me, i wouldn't want to live anymore if i were so unfortunate) if i was a Liverpool fan right now.
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He laid the foundations for whatever happens this year, or in the next 5+. ;)
 
So the rumours are we are targeting Gundogan, Karius (keeper apparently) and Ruben Neves for January.
 
Dumbstar said:
So the rumours are we are targeting Gundogan, Karius (keeper apparently) and Ruben Neves for January.
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You'll do well to get Gundogan in January.

It's really odd that Rodgers was allowed to blow £60 million on Firmino and Benteke when he was on such thin ice, would Klopp really have chosen those two?
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
You'll do well to get Gundogan in January.

It's really odd that Rodgers was allowed to blow £60 million on Firmino and Benteke when he was on such thin ice, would Klopp really have chosen those two?
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According to Raphael Honigstein Firmino is a very good fit for Klopp. Benteke is less clear.

Both had interrupted starts so we shall see.
 
Firmino seems a perfect fit for klopp's style.

I know Barrett is saying his interest in benteke to replace lewa is wide of the mark, but I don't think he got this one right. Villa was commenting in the press on Dortmund's moves on him at the time.
 
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Wonder if there'll be a clear out or just two/three key additions.
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Think a fair few will be found wanting in the summer.

Hard to see where Mignolet, enrique, Toure, Lovren, Lallana, Allen and the boys on loan go from here. One or two may surprise. I imagine there could be one or two surprise exits as well.
 
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So the rumours are we are targeting Gundogan, Karius (keeper apparently) and Ruben Neves for January.
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Karius could be an excellent signing. He's a good young German keeper and I could see him doing well in the more physical English game, he's a good fit for the league. There's zero chance you'll get Gündogan in January and it won't be much more likely in the summer.

C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's really odd that Rodgers was allowed to blow £60 million on Firmino and Benteke when he was on such thin ice, would Klopp really have chosen those two?
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Klopp tried to sign Benteke as a replacement for Lewandowski. I don't see a problem with either of them. Liverpool overpaid for Firmino. He's not as good as his price tag suggests, but that doesn't mean he's not a good fit for Klopp's team.
 
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Think a fair few will be found wanting in the summer.

Hard to see where Mignolet, enrique, Toure, Lovren, Lallana, Allen and the boys on loan go from here. One or two may surprise. I imagine there could be one or two surprise exits as well.
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Toure, Enrique, & Allen are moved on. Mignolet stays, Lallana provides cover for the 3 AMs, and Lovren gets put down for crimes against humanity.
 
I can't dislike Klopp, he's like a goddamn guru, you can't deny his magnetism even if you disagree with him.

Honestly seeing Liverpool *this* bad is maybe more than I wanted, I feel like the guy in the movie who tells his boys, "okay, enough, enough" as they beat the hell out of the guy who didn't pay you back.

I mean at least they have tradition. It's like the Yankees and Boston, enemies that wouldn't know what to do without each other.
 
As a fairly neutral follower of football I've grown tired of Liverpool and their antics over the last decade or so, but this seems like a genuine change of direction. He's made them infinitely more entertaining and interesting before a ball is even kicked.

Although their squad doesn't look great on paper at the moment, he's got players their who are perfect for him. Allen, Henderson, milner, Sturridge, and firmino all have it in them to emulate the style he wants. English clubs have shown fairly consistently in Europe that they can't deal with being pressed. Domestically, most of that liverpool team have already shown under Rodgers that they can press and have games put to bed in the first half in a similar way.

My predictions are that they'll get top 4 this year, probably at the expense of Arsenal or Chelsea, and that benteke will become an absolute animal under klopp.
 
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That attack will suit his style nicely. And I dont think I have ever ever been envious of Liverpool - no matter who they got as their player. This might be the first time.
 
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B20 said:
Firmino seems a perfect fit for klopp's style.

I know Barrett is saying his interest in benteke to replace lewa is wide of the mark, but I don't think he got this one right. Villa was commenting in the press on Dortmund's moves on him at the time.
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I have no idea about Barrett's trustworthiness but some journalists close to BVB had confirmed their interest in Benteke back then. The track records of those journos are rather good although not 100% (but whose are?). Benteke was, however, one out of three strikers they were interested in (Lukaku and Jackson Martinez being the other two), and it has never been leaked who was number one, two and three on their short list. At the end of the day, none of them materialized but that's rather a reflection of Dortmund's unwillingness to overspend than a lack of interest.
 
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Nice to see all the Liverpool fans coming back to Caf after their year long hiatus. Klopp is a fine appointment though and probably amongst the top 3 managers in the world, but it'd be interesting to see how he manages in the English league. Managers like AVB and Ramos who were pretty great in other leagues, didn't really do anything wonderful in the English league.

What's hilarious to see is the majority of Liverpool slagging off Rodgers just after one year of hailing him as some sort of Shankly-esque figure.
 
KM said:
Nice to see all the Liverpool fans coming back to Caf after their year long hiatus. Klopp is a fine appointment though and probably amongst the top 3 managers in the world, but it'd be interesting to see how he manages in the English league. Managers like AVB and Ramos who were pretty great in other leagues, didn't really do anything wonderful in the English league.

What's hilarious to see is the majority of Liverpool slagging off Rodgers just after one year of hailing him as some sort of Shankly-esque figure.
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We've been here all along ... it's seems it's you that has been avoiding any Liverpool related threads. Which is probably why you are wrong on the last sentence too. Must've sounded good in your head though ! :D
 
Kraftwerker said:
Suarez deserves all the praise in the world.

Not hindsight police. We said it all along.
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No doubting Suarez was the key man for us in 2013/14. He's one of the best strikers in the world, so that's hardly surprising. However, a key feature of our good form that season was just how well our pressing game worked. Not having the distraction of European football obviously helped tremendously on that score, & it's a challenge that Klopp will have to overcome if he wants to implement that style of play week in, week out.

It's not entirely true to say that Suarez totally carried Liverpool, & Rodgers, that year. The manager deserves a lot of credit for getting the best out of the man, & in turn, the best out of the team. Let's not forget he played a season & a half under Dalglish, yet his goals/assists per game is vastly superior under Rodgers than it was whilst playing for Kenny. Not forgetting also that in the 10 games he missed after the biting affair we won 6, drew 3, & lost just the once.

In the 3 plus years he was in charge, Rodgers lost - through no fault of his own - 4 top players in Gerrard, Suarez, Carragher, & Sterling. That would be a hammer-blow for even one of the top sides. For a side that's lost it's 'top club' status, & that doesn't have the pull it once did for major players, it's pretty much mission impossible. One of the hopes in recruiting Jurgen Klopp is that maybe his standing might help us attract, & keep, the better players. Sadly that's something that Brendan Rodgers was unable to do.
 
redman5 said:
No doubting Suarez was the key man for us in 2013/14. He's one of the best strikers in the world, so that's hardly surprising. However, a key feature of our good form that season was just how well our pressing game worked. Not having the distraction of European football obviously helped tremendously on that score, & it's a challenge that Klopp will have to overcome if he wants to implement that style of play week in, week out.

It's not entirely true to say that Suarez totally carried Liverpool, & Rodgers, that year. The manager deserves a lot of credit for getting the best out of the man, & in turn, the best out of the team. Let's not forget he played a season & a half under Dalglish, yet his goals/assists per game is vastly superior under Rodgers than it was whilst playing for Kenny. Not forgetting also that in the 10 games he missed after the biting affair we won 6, drew 3, & lost just the once.

In the 3 plus years he was in charge, Rodgers lost - through no fault of his own - 4 top players in Gerrard, Suarez, Carragher, & Sterling. That would be a hammer-blow for even one of the top sides. For a side that's lost it's 'top club' status, & that doesn't have the pull it once did for major players, it's pretty much mission impossible. One of the hopes in recruiting Jurgen Klopp is that maybe his standing might help us attract, & keep, the better players. Sadly that's something that Brendan Rodgers was unable to do.
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Welcome back.

Let's not play silly beggars. It was obvious at the time that it was 80-90% down to Suarez. You can argue the toss but it was so much down to Suarez that any other factors pale into insignificance. And if it wasn't obvious to the less astute observers then, it is blindingly so now we've seen Rodgers' utter inability to get the team anywhere near that level again.

In fact more and more reports have recently surfaced which suggest Rodgers had no hand in any of the few good deals you made during his tenure (and there weren't many). He instead was responsible for filling your team with the abysmal PL 'talent', of which the success rate has been about 0% (fair?). It's more and more obvious you fluked that one season in spite of him rather than because of him. And let's not pretend he taught Luis '50 goals in one Ajax season' Suarez how to score, and that it wasn't just Luis adapting to the league and entering his peak years.

I guess if you're being generous you could argue he was 'unlucky' to lose those four players. Then again, he signed none of them so they weren't 'his' players, all were pretty happy to leave him (some were desperate), telling in itself, none have had much good to say about him, and he completely failed to adequately replace them despite spending £300m. So he doesn't really deserve your sympathy.
 
Rafateria said:
We've been here all along ... it's seems it's you that has been avoiding any Liverpool related threads. Which is probably why you are wrong on the last sentence too. Must've sounded good in your head though ! :D
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No some have come out of hiding. Seems like a corner has been turned.
 
Shite source, but found it funny that Liverpool are apparently going to move for Lewandowski.
 
A good manager can make a huge difference. Klopp is, undoubtedly, a very good manager. But you have to wonder how quick he can change things. Alex Ferguson may have proved himself one of the all time greats, but in his early years he was under immense pressure and nearly lost his job on at least one occasion. That was at a time when United were on a barron run, similar to Liverpool's current run.
However, despite the barron years and even a trip to the second tier, United still had huge support. That, along with the fact that the cash explosion in English football hadn't happened yet, meant that United were still able to compete for the best players of the time. Whiteside, Robson, McGrath and more would have walked into the Liverpool team.

The footballing landscape is very different now in England. More clubs have more money. Even the likes of West Ham have the money to compete for more than decent players. Payet and Mahrez at Leicester are evidence of that. You then have the four big money super powers. City and Chelsea have obviously had their influxes of cash, Arsenal have been very prudent for years and are now a genuinely rich club and United are well, United.

I think Klopp is good enough to deliver a league title at Liverpool, if given enough time. But that's the problem. Time is not a luxury afforded to managers any more. So it all depends on what the Liverpool fans and board consider to be success and how long they are willing to wait to win a league title. I certainly don't think four years is enough.

So in my opinion, for Klopp to win a league title with Liverpool he will have to be still in the job four years from now. So what kind of success would be needed to keep in the job for that long. Would the Liverpool board be happy with consistently being in the top four? Would that keep him in a job for more than four years? I think it would. But even that task won't be easy. Consistently being in the top four at the expense of Chelsea, United, City or Arsenal is an incredibly difficult task. He can do it once, no doubt. Take the season before last for example, when United dropped out. But if any of those four clubs drop out of the top four, they have the ability to spend huge amounts of cash to ensure it was an anomoly. To be a top four team consistently will be nearly as difficult as winning a league.

If he manages that I think his job will be safe beyond his current contract. If he doesn't, what will keep him in a job? A couple of cup wins? Or if he fails to make Liverpool a top four team on a consistent basis, should he lose his job? Looking solely at the finances of it all (I know it's horrible, but that's the way football has gone), is expecting Liverpool to be a top four team every year fair or achievable?
 
I don't think The Nudist is going to be the next Messiah. He's promised to be champions within 4years and top 4 this year. Nah... I'm not buying it. AVB was supposed to do the same at Chelsea, different managers I know, but there was also a Lot of talk when he arrived there.
 
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