You are assuming that Mourinho, LVG, Arsene and Pellegrini are all better managers? Arsene hasn't won a league title in ages, and Klopp did it recently (in a league that has a better UEFA coefficient than England) with a team he built almost from scratch. Klopp's team totally outplayed Mourinho's Madrid in the champions league semis. Pellegrini hasnt done anything to demand a better status in the game than Klopp, and LVG is not going to be around after 2017 and that's clear to any player that we will want to buy over the summer.
Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager
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You are assuming that Mourinho, LVG, Arsene and Pellegrini are all better managers? Arsene hasn't won a league title in ages, and Klopp did it recently (in a league that has a better UEFA coefficient than England) with a team he built almost from scratch. Klopp's team totally outplayed Mourinho's Madrid in the champions league semis. Pellegrini hasnt done anything to demand a better status in the game than Klopp, and LVG is not going to be around after 2017 and that's clear to any player that we will want to buy over the summer.
Bring him on!!!
And quit the trembling ffs!
And quit the trembling ffs!
Let's just agree on this two situation:
1) Klopp joins Liverpool: he is shit, overrated and unproven. Everything he has done at Dortmund and Mainz was all about luck. He will flop at Liverpool.
2) Klopp say no to Liverpool: he is absolute legend and one of the most promising managers. His work at Dortmund and Mainz was terrific and he would make Liverpool title challengers again but he saw how shit club they are.
The discussion will be much easier that way
1) Klopp joins Liverpool: he is shit, overrated and unproven. Everything he has done at Dortmund and Mainz was all about luck. He will flop at Liverpool.
2) Klopp say no to Liverpool: he is absolute legend and one of the most promising managers. His work at Dortmund and Mainz was terrific and he would make Liverpool title challengers again but he saw how shit club they are.
The discussion will be much easier that way
So how exactly did they solve the part with the sub-par city?
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Look, I'm not saying its not tough to buy really good players. We know the challenges - our stiker situation is a clear example of this issue. My only point is that Klopp is a shrewed acquisition, and Liverpool will benefit from it. That's the part I don't like. With chelsea in their current situation, Klopp might even manage to get them to the CL - which will leave only one negative - the city.
You offset that with the size of the club and the manager. That's why we have been attracting good players for so many years. (And also the reason why we lose some of them to Madrid).
Let's just agree on this two situation:
1) Klopp joins Liverpool: he is shit, overrated and unproven. Everything he has done at Dortmund and Mainz was all about luck. He will flop at Liverpool.
2) Klopp say no to Liverpool: he is absolute legend and one of the most promising managers. His work at Dortmund and Mainz was terrific and he would make Liverpool title challengers again but he saw how shit club they are.
The discussion will be much easier that way
This.
I'm okay with that, I just pointed out that the TV deal will change nothing since everyone benefit from it.
Anyway - Klopp is one of my favourite managers and I'd hate him going to Liverpool. The liking will turn into loathing. Maybe that's why I'm concerned. The rest of it doesn't really matter. As United we are big enough, and should be good enough in our own right, to ride out anything that other clubs do.
Yes, they are all better. Not sure how coefficients is relevant or even if it was England were better when Klopp last won the league.
Pellegrini did a fantastic job with Villareal taking them from an average club with no history to Champions league semi.
Yes, but so did Klopp. He took a Dortmund side which were average to a Champions League final and beat Bayern to the league. Doesn't make Pellegrini better - at best the two of them are comparable.
Coefficient point was re Arsene's inability to put together a title winning team in 11 years.
The only ones who are distinctly better than Klopp are Mourinho (who is having a major meltdown right now), and LVG (who will leave at the end of next season).
This part is the most important, it doesn't matter who Chelsea, City, Liverpool or Arsenal appoint we will have to beat them and if we are ambitious we will have to beat the best continental managers in Champions League. I like Klopp and if he signs for Liverpool, which isn't done yet, then I will be sad not because he can improve Liverpool but because he won't be an option in the futur for us.
Agreed.
That's how I feel as well. Not that I expected Klopp to manage United, but I reckon it definitely draws a line under any possibility of it happening if he takes the Liverpool job.
It'd be nuts if they got him too. When Fergie announced he was going, it appears we contacted 4 or 5 top managers before settling on Moyes. Liverpool, who have done little of note domestically or in Europe for years now, bin their manager and seem to have a free run at either Klopp or Ancelotti. Two of the very best around, and they will almost certainly get one of the two, I am sure.
i really like Klopp i don't want to have to hate him 
Let's just agree on this two situation:
1) Klopp joins Liverpool: he is shit, overrated and unproven. Everything he has done at Dortmund and Mainz was all about luck. He will flop at Liverpool.
2) Klopp say no to Liverpool: he is absolute legend and one of the most promising managers. His work at Dortmund and Mainz was terrific and he would make Liverpool title challengers again but he saw how shit club they are.
The discussion will be much easier that way
Bad news, would like to see him do well, but not at Liverpool.
Klopp or LVG?
Will he lure Shinji to pool if he's appointed?
Imagine the carnage on here
Imagine the carnage on here
Will he lure Shinji to pool if he's appointed?
Imagine the carnage on here
I rate Kagawa, but if he could only steal one player from Dortmund, we'd have to take Hummels
Damn that would solve a lot.Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 16s16 seconds ago
I'm told negotiations between #LFC and Jurgen Klopp are progressing well. Appointment could come before end of week
I'm told negotiations between #LFC and Jurgen Klopp are progressing well. Appointment could come before end of week
Looks inevitable unfortunately. Liverpool have surely already unofficially sounded him out, otherwise it would have been crazy to sack Rodgers after what, in reality, wasn't that bad a result.
Walked away when Dortmund turned to shit. Bring him the Klopp on!
He knows the words to YAWN.
We are surely doomed.
We are surely doomed.
I'll bet RAWK are loving our cowardice. Man up you fecking fairies.
Too much man love for a manager who's got absolutely feck all to do with our club.
Too much man love for a manager who's got absolutely feck all to do with our club.
Beforehand, whenever teams used to appoint managers, I could not give two shits. We had Fergie and there's no chance their new manager will even come close to him. Where as now, I do have a bit of a concern especially with how we playing.
He'll be unbearable no doubt about that. Will surely fit into the 'raw type' psyche.
Yuck!Klopp. He was definitely the muppet choice along with Pep to replace Fergie and Moyes.
Odds on him joining Liverpool have dropped to 1/4 on Betfair. Ancelotti has drifted out to 8/1.
My ideal appointment would be Nigel Pearson.
Great acquisition. Now they need to get rid of that God awful "transfer committee".
I rate Kagawa, but if he could only steal one player from Dortmund, we'd have to take Hummels
Hummels openly criticized Klopp's player selections, didn't he? That was one big reason why he was shifting his gaze elsewhere before Dortmund convinced him to stay.
This is such a great deal for Liverpool if it goes through, I hate it!
I guess we'll have to go all in for Pep when LvG kicks the bucket.
I guess we'll have to go all in for Pep when LvG kicks the bucket.
This is a bit shit.
Whats worse is I find Klopp heaps more likeable than LVG.
Whats worse is I find Klopp heaps more likeable than LVG.
Mine would be anyone with a stache.
Great. Going to have to start disliking Klopp now
This does not feel right at all
this is close to a done deal, lads. best get your head around it.
I still can't quite believe it. I am halfway dreaming of a snatch and grab on the title this season.
I still can't quite believe it. I am halfway dreaming of a snatch and grab on the title this season.
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