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Klopp faces chop as Liverpool look set for drop
Klopp faces chop as Liverpool look set for drop
Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager
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Would hate to see him there but looking very likely. feck.
What has Rodgers archieved? Almost a premiership with an underdog and getting humilated in the Champions League the season after.
What has Klopp archieved? Back to back Bundesliga titles, a double and a Champions League final, beating teams like Real Madrid and Bayern back to back and a team which were playing the most exciting football in whole europe... with an underdog and probably not even half the budget Liverpool has had.
Well yeah, Klopp had an 'Rodgersesque' boom bust cycle.
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What has Rodgers archieved? Almost a premiership with an underdog and getting humilated in the Champions League the season after.
What has Klopp archieved? Back to back Bundesliga titles, a double and a Champions League final, beating teams like Real Madrid and Bayern back to back and a team which were playing the most exciting football in whole europe... with an underdog and probably not even half the budget Liverpool has had.
Well yeah, Klopp had an 'Rodgersesque' boom bust cycle.
he got sacked from Dortmund didn't he?
Umm, no.
Mutual consent for a separation.
Was edging relegation for most of last season. Ended up the season ok, finishing 7th in the league and getting to the cup final.
dortmund supporter here. i could very well see this happening. i'd in fact say that klopp would rather be tempted to manage a prestigious, yet struggling club like liverpool over a club like city/chelsea or probably even united, tbh, as it would be more...ambitious!? liverpool and dortmund are also somewhat alike, with regards to fandom, tradition, potential...
i for one had always seen him as the designated successor to wenger tho
i for one had always seen him as the designated successor to wenger tho
He's an amazing option for sure, the only thing that could have been better is if they got him in the summer so he could build the team to his liking.
Two things are likely if Klopp goes to Liverpool:
- The endless Caf love-in for him will finally stop, he'll become a figure of resentment from United fans within a year.
- He will never manage United.
- The endless Caf love-in for him will finally stop, he'll become a figure of resentment from United fans within a year.
- He will never manage United.
Fixed.
Will the love-in stop? Or will some people constantly compare LVG unfavourably to Klopp in a way that makes me want to repeatedly bash my head off a wall? I suspect I know the answer....
Possibly wishful thinking. I'm in the minority, I don't want Klopp at United.
...but this is down to deep seated issues with Germans and their superiority complex that I need to get over.
Surely you don't make this move without a plan in place...I hope it's not him.
And I'm not talking to you Shirley.
And I'm not talking to you Shirley.
Guardian comment:
They said no to United and renewed their commitment to Dortmund. What kind of disillusioned person would believe Klopp can sign such players with Liverpool if they already said no to us?
Could the manager have been the deciding factor? They would know of him.
I think people overrate the effect of the manager when they decide to join the club. The player and their agent know whoever is the manager might not be there for long.
from Dortmund to Liverpool isn't exactly an upgrade so no.. Reus has won feck all with Dortmund, if he wanted to leave, he would choose some club that likely challenging for the titles, Real Madrid, Barca, PSG, Bayern and the like ...
I agree that Jürgen thrives more on building rather than maintaining or refining, and that he prefers a history-rich club like Liverpool to Chelsea or City. Generally speaking, I believe it would very much matter to him how much club officials buy into his idea of football and would not dare to mess with him about it.dortmund supporter here. i could very well see this happening. i'd in fact say that klopp would rather be tempted to manage a prestigious, yet struggling club like liverpool over a club like city/chelsea or probably even united, tbh, as it would be more...ambitious!? liverpool and dortmund are also somewhat alike, with regards to fandom, tradition, potential...
i for one had always seen him as the designated successor to wenger tho
Please not those!
Implies to me that the Guardian is not necessarily close to Klopp or his former players. There's only one scenario in which Reus or Hummels would consider a second spell with Klopp in the very soon future: If he accidentally ends up at the (prestigious) club they had planned to join anyway. They'd join those despite Klopp being at the helm, not because of him.
Why? I thought players generally enjoyed working with him and liked him as a manager.
Ffs.
Let's do this then. He can perform as a decent defender under such conditions, even though he's not.
It's just a few posts I readily said he's rubbish.
You win no points in this Internet debate buster. Do not collect money when passing go.
Many do but not all or not enough to follow him wherever he goes.
Hummels quite openly criticized Klopp's tactics and player selection as well as praising Bayern and even the national team (sic!) as role models for Dortmund.
Reus when asked how he thinks about Klopp's idea of football was very diplomatic, suggesting along the lines that it's one way to play and he's doing what a coach wants him to do.
Liking a coach and being convinced he or his philosophy is the best for them or the most successful approach are very different animals.
Neven Subotic is somebody who I could see following Klopp but not Hummels, Reus, or Gündogan.
It is a certainty, not likely, that Klopp will never manage United if he takes charge of the dippers.
If he ends up being a success, there's no reason why he would ever want to leave them and take over the helm at United.
If he fails - well the fans will never want a manager who has failed in another high profile job in the EPL.
Come on Klopp, you need to take over Sunderland and create history
While Liverpool still has the football structure FSG introduced, we can rest assured that no manager will ever be a success there.
Can you explain with some points as to why it will never happen?
The transfer committee thingy? Why is that? It's pretty much a continental structure. Southampton has almost a similar model and they have been doing pretty well.
Also, BR has mentioned many times before that he has the final say when it comes to transfers, so it is just silly to blame his failures on the TC.
Whether or not such a system works out always depends on the personnel's abilities. At Bayern München we have Pep Guardiola with very strong ideas about the players he needs, Michael Reschke (former Leverkusen transfer and scouting guru), Matthias Sammer (world-class ex-footballer, won the league as BVB's head-coach and was the NT's technical director) and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (world-class former footballer and decade-long partner to our legendary general manager Uli Hoeneß).
Who sits on Liverpool's transfer committee? Are they truly capable? I doubt Klopp would have a problem with such a system given Watzke, Zorc and Klopp worked in similar fashion at Borussia Dortmund. I would even say It's an advantage for Klopp who never worked without a Director of Football.
Can you explain with some points how it's been successful since its introduction? It won't take you very long.
I've had a look at a few photographs, Klopp looks like a right knobhead.
Southampton's committee appear to have people who can pick out decent footballers. Liverpools has Ian Ayre. He couldn't pick his own arse.
I'm desperate, I'm panicking. I have to try and find something negative to say because Klopp is a great manager and the thought of him being at Liverpool is worrying. Why can't they just hire Paul Lambert instead?!
They've had a deluded manager since it started. Maybe with someone superior who is actually capable to mould footballers into better players they could become successful, who knows.
Don't do it Jurgen. Resist it.
In 9 months the Bayern job will be at your finger tips for certain. Probably Germany and one of Arsenal, Chelsea or City being a possibility too.
You can do better than this!
In 9 months the Bayern job will be at your finger tips for certain. Probably Germany and one of Arsenal, Chelsea or City being a possibility too.
You can do better than this!
Funny reply. I expected some kind of explaining why no manager could extract anything out of the current structure.
Anyways. I take it as your dream. So be it.
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