Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager

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Cina said:
Lovren is rubbish.
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Oh absolutely.

He has some good right attributes though and it worked for him at soton.

He needs choice and burden of responsibility taken from him though. Throw him into a well drilled defence with teammates he can trust, I think he can be a decent defender.

So ease him in as 3rd choice in a few months, see if he's up to that.
 
Hopefully both he and Carlo laugh at the very idea of managing Liverpool and hold out for a better job. They surely both know that there will be another one just round the corner.
 
B20 said:
Oh absolutely.

He has some good right attributes though and it worked for him at soton.
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Those attributes were Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Fonte and Clyne. He was garbage at Lyon, and he's been garbage at Liverpool.
 
Klopp is an excellent manager and he could do a great job for liverpool long term, i'd be surprised if he takes the job because i think he can do better, but if he ends up taking it, you'd have to respect him for it because it's a huge challenge that could potentially ruin his career, most top managers would avoid this job, not because it's not a big one, but because it's a difficult one at a demanding club.
 
Just be happy Brendan stayed long enough to blow the money in the summer transfer window.

Whoever comes in has a massive job on his hands.
 
Someone said:
Klopp is an excellent manager and he could do a great job for liverpool long term, i'd be surprised if he takes the job because i think he can do better, but if he ends up taking it, you'd have to respect him for it because it's a huge challenge that could potentially ruin his career, most top managers would avoid this job, not because it's not a big one, but because it's a difficult one at a demanding club.
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I don't think any manager would avoid Liverpool for the reasons you suggest. Too much money to be made.
 
It's disgusting that Liverpool are going to bring in yet another foreign manager into a top job - why don't they look at a British manager?

What's wrong with giving Stuart Pearce a go? Or maybe even a Liverpool legend like John Barnes? Both much better options than a world class young German manager who plays great football :(
 
Akshay said:
Probably whichever of Klopp or Ancelotti doesn't end up at Liverpool ends up at Chelsea sooner or later? Which way around would the caf prefer?
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Can't see Ancelotti going back to that circus. Think Jose was different.
 
Shit, shit, shit.

I desperately wanted him to avoid Liverpool. He'll make them a force IMO. With the money Liverpool have to spend, if they give him time, he'll make the best team they have had since eighties.
 
Halftrack said:
Those attributes were Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Fonte and Clyne. He was garbage at Lyon, and he's been garbage at Liverpool.
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So that's what I said then. " Throw him into a well drilled defence with teammates he can trust, I think he can be a decent defender."
 
Sphaero said:
:lol::lol::lol:

Some of the stuff in this thread is hilarious. If I compare the current Liverpool with the ours when he took over 2008, the former look like world beaters. The difference is actually huge. Not like many on here had any interest in us before winning the title 2011 or even our CL campaign 2012/2013 to actually know this.

With the possible exception of Reus who was already fantastic in Gladbach, each and every world class or at least top class player was brought to this level under Klopp. He created this team from scratch. His biggest strength will probably always be his talent for player development and creating roles which maximise the impact of overall only decent players.

The central question with Klopp at Pool would be how much time he is given to actually craft a team to his liking. With us it took him two seasons, the best hope of rival fans would be that the officials have less patience.
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Oh piss off with that codenscending smiley stuff. If you've got a point to make try and do wit without coming across so smarmy. You're saying that players like Sahin, Kagawa and Hummels having their breakout season at the same time was entirely down to Klopp? With that logic we could also say that Suarez and Sturridge having their best seasons at the same time was down to Rodgers. Not to mention that Bayern had a clusterfeck of a season the year you won your first title.

We're talking about a lot of players who came through either the Dortmund youth system or throughout Germany, who after the 2000 Euros made youth development an absolute priority in German football. These are players that are technically gifted, and ended up being suited to Klopp's system. England aren't exactly bursting with great youth players. With a limited budget he was able to buy cheap German talent, something that he won't get in England (especially with the "tax" for English players). He'll be lucky if he gets an English player who can run in a straight line for the equivalent amount of money he would spend on a German talent. Unless he looks to other countries for players, but with the home grown rules he'll have a few restrictions. And Klopp didn't have perfect record with the players that he signed.

What's my point? It's not 100% guaranteed that Klopp is going to be the saviour of Liverpool.

And if you think I'm wrong about something then try and educate me, don't try and play all high and mighty just because you have more knowledge in the subject.
 
Annoying that Klopp and Ancelotti are not in work at the moment. We'd all love to see Big Sam at Anfield.
 
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Mourinho would, i don't think he'd ever take a challenge like this one.
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He wouldn't take the job for the same reasons he wouldn't take the Sunderland job, they're too shit. It's not because it would be too demanding a job.

It's like saying Messi has not signed for Stoke because he's afraid of the challenge.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Oh piss off with that codenscending smiley stuff. If you've got a point to make try and do wit without coming across so smarmy. You're saying that players like Sahin, Kagawa and Hummels having their breakout season at the same time was entirely down to Klopp? With that logic we could also say that Suarez and Sturridge having their best seasons at the same time was down to Rodgers. Not to mention that Bayern had a clusterfeck of a season the year you won your first title.
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Sure. Not entirely, but he played his part.

Lots of people who want to write off all successes once failure kicks in.

What Sahin and Kagawa did without Klopp also tells its own story.
 
B20 said:
Sure. Not entirely, but he played his part.

Lots of people who want to write off all successes once failure kicks in.

What Sahin and Kagawa did without Klopp also tells its own story.
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I'm not saying that Klopp had nothing to do with it! I'm rejecting the point that Klopp was the sole reason for the success.
 
A part of me is definitely expecting the Klopp/Ancelotti talk to have been initial media click bait talk and an announcement to follow that Monk will be taking over duties.
 
Akshay said:
True, but what other big clubs would have a vacancy soon for Ancelotti? Could see him taking the Chelsea job because he has nothing to lose if he comes in with Chelsea in the doldrums. At worst they sack him again in a couple of years with a nice pay off.
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Not sure, but he must be able to do better than Liverpool. Isn't it widely believed Wenger will be off after this season? One cup manager for another ;)
 
Pexbo said:
A part of me is definitely expecting the Klopp/Ancelotti talk to have been initial media click bait talk and an announcement to follow that Monk will be taking over duties.
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We do our shopping at southampton these days.
 
Wasn't Benitez highly rated before joining Liverpool? Hope klopp ends up like him. Though I doubt it
 
He'll definitely have them challenging for fifth. Progress.
 
I don't see what the panic is. He's done very well at Dortmund, he's a pretty obvious appointment, but it's hardly a certain success. Nowhere near.
 
duffer said:
He wouldn't take the job for the same reasons he wouldn't take the Sunderland job, they're too shit. It's not because it would be too demanding a job.

It's like saying Messi has not signed for Stoke because he's afraid of the challenge.
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You could say the same for klopp, i'm sure he could find a better job, maybe even at chelsea pretty soon, but he might take a difficult one which would warrant respect. Comparing liverpool to sunderland is ridiculous, liverpool are a big club and still one of the biggest clubs in europe, they're way below where they want to be, that's why it's huge challenge.
 
As much as I hate Liverpool I am starting to warm up to the idea of Klopp coming in and rejuvinating them. This is mainly to do with how shit English teams have been in Europe and I think part of that is to with the established order of having four teams stronger than the rest and once a team breaks into that top four their main aim is to stay there than to actually build a great team. If Klopp comes and does well maybe it will force others to up their game like Mourinho's first two years did.
 
Amir said:
I don't see what the panic is. He's done very well at Dortmund, he's a pretty obvious appointment, but it's hardly a certain success. Nowhere near.
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Who'd be certain success then? Ideally, how would we do better?
 
already suspecting YEARRRRHHHH-GUN will be fairly easy to dislike, meself, he's already done the sign touching bollocks

will they have some ££££ for him or will he have to sell both any of their top players?
 
Mr Pigeon said:
We're talking about a lot of players who came through either the Dortmund youth system or throughout Germany, who after the 2000 Euros made youth development an absolute priority in German football.
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The problem with your other post was that it's just nonsense that he had much better stuff to work with when he came to Dortmund. What was insane wasn't what he had, but what he created there out of practically nothing. Dortmund had finished in 13th place before he took over, for once. He then proceeded to build the team and managed to identify lots of foreign talent that he brought in for cheap (apart from a few players they brought through their ranks): Kagawa, Subotic, Piszczek, Kuba, Barrios, Lewandowski (none of which are products of the german youth system) and also brought in Hummels from Bayern for a pretty high fee for a then young unproven CB.

Compared to Dortmund in 2008, Liverpool have a great squad and huge funds. The prerequisites for success are much better at Liverpool, at least. Doesn't mean he will succeed, of course.
 
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