I hate to break it to you but if Ten Hag is here next season he’ll still play Rashford, McTomminay, Antony etc at every opportunity.
Kieran McKenna | Close to signing long term deal to stay at Ipswich
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If he goes Brighton and we give ETH one more season that is best for everyone. We can get McKenna next season if ETH doesn't work out and McKenna is adapting well to the PL.
After winning the fa cup and 2 trophies in 2 years , sacking Ten hag at this point and appointing McKenna seems madness. Atleast hire an experienced guy with better CV than Erik like Tuchel for a couple of years instead of hiring a rookie. If not then i’d rather keep ten hag.
I’m hoping that we aren’t rushing to give him the job just to prevent someone else getting him and then don’t trust him. His style appears to be a manager that builds young dynamic teams and these values can take time to institute.
Don’t get me wrong I think he has the potential to do well and has history and genuinely supported the club so you know he would have passion for the position.
If we are talking to him ideally I’d like us to say stay at Ipswich for a season and give Ten a year to progress. Experience in the league for him and he may still get the job. If Eric does well he can take a mid table team job for a couple years as manager cycles rarely go over 5 years now unless success is consistent.
This is all theoretical of course and unlikely to happen but I think McKenna can build on the work Ten has done in creating a core of youth we can build around.
Don’t get me wrong I think he has the potential to do well and has history and genuinely supported the club so you know he would have passion for the position.
If we are talking to him ideally I’d like us to say stay at Ipswich for a season and give Ten a year to progress. Experience in the league for him and he may still get the job. If Eric does well he can take a mid table team job for a couple years as manager cycles rarely go over 5 years now unless success is consistent.
This is all theoretical of course and unlikely to happen but I think McKenna can build on the work Ten has done in creating a core of youth we can build around.
is Tuchel's CV and profile actually better for a United manager? He's the closest to ETH in success (ie Poch, McKenna and di Zerbi haven't had anywhere close to the success) but as people point out he's not shown stability and ETH has proven an ally of the academy.
McKenna seems like he'd fit the profile of the role and definitely would work with the academy but hasn't had the top flight experience or won anything of note. Poch is Poch (spurs in human form) and di Zerbi flopped at Brighton
Let Ten Hag finish his contract and appoint McKenna next year when he has some experience and we have a better squad and all the pieces in place in our club structure
Swapping a proven manager who the players clearly enjoy working with for McKenna is suicide. I just think some fans want anyone other than Ten Hag now. Who would be McKenna’s back room team? Do they have similar experience to him? They certainly won’t have the same amount of experience as VDG and McClaren.
We saw what we could do with Varane and Licha back. It’s clear that those players being out has derailed our season. Our squad is not good enough to cope with that currently. It wasn’t last year either we just got lucky that they stayed fit for long periods.
We saw what we could do with Varane and Licha back. It’s clear that those players being out has derailed our season. Our squad is not good enough to cope with that currently. It wasn’t last year either we just got lucky that they stayed fit for long periods.
He should probably join Brighton with a release clause for the next 2 summers (preferrably only valid for an offer from us).
He went from being favourite for the job to out of consideration. Interesting .
This further strengthens that theory that Chelsea briefed Steinberg about ETH leaving as a feck you to us
If they did, I hope they enjoy the conference next season
It's Brighton or he stays he wont get the job here thank feck
Million miles away from the calibre needed to manage this club
Wouldn't be so sure.
I dont think he was ever in contention. And he wont be in contention for a job at United. Its way too soon.
A season with Brighton is his best bet this season
A season with Brighton is his best bet this season
I wouldn’t be so sure
He was. Ornstein even said in the article that he was the early favourite. Something made Chelsea back off...
Told you weirdos he's off to Brighton stop doubting my impeccable sources.
He could be in trouble at Brighton as well. Their squad is dog shit, people looking in think Di Zerbi had a bad season....he didn't that squad had no right finishing mid table.
You are weirdly confident to yourself. I know you don’t rate McKenna, at least not now. But how are you so sure about that?
I gotta love our fan base.
On one hand ETH who reached the CL semi-final and won the Eredevise 3 times in row wasn't ready because the step up was too big.
And yet, McKenna who only had 1 season in the championship is ready to step up
You just can't make it up.
And thank you Brighton for ending the speculation
On one hand ETH who reached the CL semi-final and won the Eredevise 3 times in row wasn't ready because the step up was too big.
And yet, McKenna who only had 1 season in the championship is ready to step up
You just can't make it up.
And thank you Brighton for ending the speculation
It's not really on McKenna that Brighton job/model is on the verge of collapsing they cant keep selling their best players and getting away with it they've lost too much quality and haven't replaced it well enough. Di Zerbi did a decent job anyone following will struggle in my opinion
I've got Brighton down as a relegation candidate next season
I mentioned this a while ago but got told off for spilling beans and had to edit my post.
Neither of Poch or Tuchel really make much sense, so unless Ten Hag literally has to go then it would seem a weird one for Ineos to choose to start off with either of these Chelsea cast offs, but give me Poch over Tuchel every time.
Frank would be even odder, so my conclusion is that if they're making a change because they want a fresh start then it'll be Mckenna, and what a leap of faith that will be.
Frank would be even odder, so my conclusion is that if they're making a change because they want a fresh start then it'll be Mckenna, and what a leap of faith that will be.
De Zerbi then?
Maresca or Frank for Chelsea.
Our fan base is made up of different people.
McKenna has gone back to being odds on with the bookies for next Brighton manager.
I mean you been right before so we’ll see what happens
Feck, it's gonna be Tuchel huh?
He's also odds on favourite for the United job.
Who we getting?
Who is really truly ready until they're given the platform to prove it or not?
What logic was there hiring Xabi Alonso after managing Sociedad B to relegation?
What logic was there for Barca and Real to promote Pep and Zidane to the most high pressured and demanding jobs in the world despite having less experience than McKenna?
Pep, Zidane and Xabi had just as much chance of failing as McKenna does. And even more so since Pep and Zidane had the weight of expectation on winning the league from day one.
McKenna doesn't have that expectation. He isn't expected to win the league right away and that's what I wish more fans remembered. Pressure is proportionate to the expectations, and top four for McKenna isn't some potentially back crushing endeavour. He's only expected to start with building an identity.
Pep and Xavi were products of respective teams so they knew exactly the pressure that comes with the job. They also were hired to play the "Barca way".
Zidane was an interim coach that exceeded all expectations.
United is much harder assignment simply for the pressure a manager has to face. Now if you were to say that Carrick should have a shot, I would agree, simply because he "grew up" at our club. He knows the pressure the managers face here. And unlike McKenna, I think he has the authority and respect of the dressing room
this forum was hugely in favour of hiring ETH
Southgate
Xavi is different from Xabi btw
Dear God. ETH in then