Kieran McKenna | Close to signing long term deal to stay at Ipswich

It’s long and direct and relies on a strong counter attack yeah I’ve seen em numerous times

I agree as much as you do about McKenna not being ready for this job but your agenda against him is baffling bordering childish and fictional. Ipswich are direct, thats clearly their strength and why they are succesful but tell me how many of the 92 goals they scored this season fits your strong counter attack criteria? Here's a video to help you. It's a great watch btw, goals scored from high press, playing out from the back, a lot from a variety of set pieces.

 
He didn't have a "failed early stint". Assistants get either too much credit or too much grief on football forums. When in reality their roles are limited to what the managers want them to do. I remember Klopp was also supposed to fall off when his first assistant with Liverpool left as "he was the brains" behind the operation. In the same way, Phelan got blamed when our football wasn't that attractive under SAF; the famous "What does Phelan do?". Quieroz was supposed to be a genius and he had a few mediocre stints with clubs and countries after he left SAF's coaching staff.
 
In general I 100% agree but in this instance when a guy is linked to the job after a failed early stint it would be crazy not to question it

He is linked after crazy stint, taking league 1 bottom level team to PL in 2 seasons.
 
He is linked after crazy stint, taking league 1 bottom level team to PL in 2 seasons.

He’s done well but that doesn’t qualify him to be United manager. You’ll be adding a relegation to that resume before next season is over.
 
He’s done well but that doesn’t qualify him to be United manager. You’ll be adding a relegation to that resume before next season is over.

There’s going receipts given out in this thread

If he gets relegated, so what? Klopp also got relegated with Mainz and Poch was at 20th position when he was sacked at Espanyol.

Relegation with Ipswich won't do much damage as they are expected to go down.
 
If he gets relegated, so what? Klopp also got relegated with Mainz and Poch was at 20th position when he was sacked at Espanyol.

Relegation with Ipswich won't do much damage as they are expected to go down.

So what’s your argument here? He should get the job? Is he your choice for next manager if ETH leaves?
 
So what’s your argument here? He should get the job? Is he your choice for next manager if ETH leaves?

Fans know feck all about coaches, that's the point.

Couldn't care less who gets the job or EtH is retained.
 
I agree as much as you do about McKenna not being ready for this job but your agenda against him is baffling bordering childish and fictional. Ipswich are direct, thats clearly their strength and why they are succesful but tell me how many of the 92 goals they scored this season fits your strong counter attack criteria? Here's a video to help you. It's a great watch btw, goals scored from high press, playing out from the back, a lot from a variety of set pieces.



This is the only goal you need to see from last season which is both a work of art and a perfect summation of the way Ipswich play under McKenna...

 
Fans know feck all about coaches, that's the point.

Couldn't care less who gets the job or EtH is retained.


But we can have an opinion on what we see. I’ve watched United play under a McKenna coached United over 100 times and that concluded my opinion. Harsh to blame it on him? sure but when he’s the man linked to the job it’s crazy not to take the past into it.

I hope he has a good career, if he does well in the PL he could be a future candidate but for me at this moment in time he’s not ready.

I’d expect him to keep Ipswich up this season if he’s after a job like United. There’s been plenty of managers keep small teams in the league and not got a shot at a ‘top club’
 
But we can have an opinion on what we see. I’ve watched United play under a McKenna coached United over 100 times and that concluded my opinion. Harsh to blame it on him? sure but when he’s the man linked to the job it’s crazy not to take the past into it.

I hope he has a good career, if he does well in the PL he could be a future candidate but for me at this moment in time he’s not ready.

I’d expect him to keep Ipswich up this season if he’s after a job like United. There’s been plenty of managers keep small teams in the league and not got a shot at a ‘top club’

See the first part, you also watched Phelan, Rene coached ManUtd play very good football winning lot of trophies. Was it them or the Manager?

Chelsea team that was comically bad under Lampard, with lot of same staff Tuchel made them into very good team winning CL.

I don't know why it's so hard to understand that manager is the one who decides, coaches just follows what is being asked. They don't run the show.
 
Staying at Ipswich is better for him than a move to Brighton. You can't buy team spirit and momentum. keeping them up for just one season would be an immense achievement from league 1 and his stock will still be high should he move on.
 
When Ole says he doesn’t take training he leaves that to the coaches and we look like amateurs the coaches shouldn’t be questioned? fecking nonsense

It’s all relative anyway he’s rightly not getting the job thank feck.

I'm sure coaches work within the framework set out by the head coach. If McKenna was indeed the main coach on the training ground, he'd only be carrying out the instructions and ideas given to him by OGS.
 
I'm sure coaches work within the framework set out by the head coach. If McKenna was indeed the main coach on the training ground, he'd only be carrying out the instructions and ideas given to him by OGS.
Bingo. The coaches don't decide the tactics. They're given instructions, and they try their best to make the best use of their playing style. Running the training sessions just means they run the training sessions because the manager doesn't want to do repetitive actions on a daily basis.

They're given lemons, and try their hardest to get the juice out of the lemons.
 
I absolutely agree that he is a future Utd manager. But not yet. Let him continue to make his name in Suffolk. But I don't think we will be the cannon fodder that some on here think. I know we have a backbone of Div 1 players but then a bloke called Ramsay did too when he took us from the third division to first division Champions. McKenna takes players and makes them better. It's what he does.
If we do go down then I expect him to stay and we can have the fun again of going up. It has been a hell of a ride so far.
Thank you for the erudite and positive opinions on this forum.
It would be great if he could come into the league like Luton did, really fighting and playing their own game - but obviously with the results to stay up. I do think you might be in danger of losing him this time next year whatever happens though unfortunately. He’s on the radar now.
 
Looks like every manager Sky have has us linked with is being offered contract extensions, Emery is reported to have signed a new deal at Villa.

Looks like our options are narrowing down fast to two.
ETH or Tuchel

So don't think De Zerbi/Pochettino or a complete wildcard are options still on the table then
 
I'm not, but he got to a semi and a final, finished 6th, had just as much of an injury crisis as us, had his team playing good football but they weren't creating chances, at the end of the season they worked that bit out.

Like I said, probably not an upgrade but the players love him and he has a clear style of play that is less hit or miss or less dependant on having a left footed CB at all times.

I just can't help feeling that manager from Spurs isn't in there anymore, what is your feeling about De Zerbi out of interest?

Getting it back on topic there is no doubt McKenna has made a very smart choice for his career.
 
While I would love him here, it does feel a bit soon. Hopefully he has another great season with Ipswich while also gifting us six points.
 
Hope he does well (survival for Ipswich will be great). Even a relegation with some battling qualities displayed will not hurt his reputation too much (like the Luton manager or even Kompany!)
 
Successful era because of Rene and Phelan? Because they ran the training.

Btw the failed coach under Moyes or LVG is one of the assistant under Arteta.

Coaches just carry out the instructions from Manager. If Ole wants his team to sit deep and hit on counter, McKenna and Carrick won't be training them for possession based football. If Ole gets Pep backroom staff, Ole won't be possession based manager.

Everything stops at manager. It's weird people argue about coaching staff quality when no one has a fecking clue.
Yeah, Albert Stuivenberg. Under LVG.
 
He’s done well but that doesn’t qualify him to be United manager. You’ll be adding a relegation to that resume before next season is over.
I'm not saying Ipswich wont get relegated but I'm pretty certain they will give quite a few teams a run for their money. It sounds like there is money available for transfers so it should be interesting.
 


He's really instilled that belief into his team but they won't be coming back so often in the EPL. Ideally, you don't even want to be in a losing situation to begin with.

Anyway, I've heard he's signed a new long term deal this afternoon. I'll look forward to watching Ipswich with him at the wheel again next season.
 
He looks delighted in that pic. :lol:

Probably signed a new deal to include a reasonable release clause in case big clubs come in for him.
 
Hope does superbly and becomes a contender for the United job at some point.

Hope we won’t be going for Pochettino now.
 
Interested to see how he does next season. Kompany tried playing the same style of football that shat all over the championship, but against better teams it left them way too open and they paid the price.

Does McKenna go a bit more conservative and just focus on staying in the league, or does he try and actually play football? It doesn’t usually go well for those that do.
 


The stat may still be true but I know that table isn't 100% accurate as they seem to have only included teams from certain divisions. In League One Barnsley picked up 29 after conceding first so should at least get a mention.

Football Laague clubs playing 46 should give them a great chance of appearing on lots of "most x in Europe stats" too. Can't think of any other leagues that play as many.

Still interesting and shows fighting spirit.
 
Wonder how much he's getting paid - £4m a season for a championship manager was already quite a lot.
 
What did Ole actually do at the club. Game day only!!! That’s nice work if you can get it