Kevin Strootman

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If we're interested now, it maybe be because he is indeed much further along than previously anticipated.
 
He is supposed to be back Late October/Early november as per latest reports.

But it is tough to tell with ACL's.
 
I've heard people claim he will be an alternative to Vidal, but are they anything alike?

I would have assumed we'd want a genuine all rounder who can a bit of everything including running power.

From what I've heard, Strootman is a bit static?
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I've heard people claim he will be an alternative to Vidal, but are they anything alike?

I would have assumed we'd want a genuine all rounder who can a bit of everything including running power.

From what I've heard, Strootman is a bit static?
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I've heard the complete opposite, that he's a complete box to box midfielder, far from static, but I haven't seen him much so can't really say
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I've heard people claim he will be an alternative to Vidal, but are they anything alike?

I would have assumed we'd want a genuine all rounder who can a bit of everything including running power.

From what I've heard, Strootman is a bit static?
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Is he? I also had the same feeling about him. But I saw him play a couple of times, he seemed quite mobile to me. This is based on two games for Roma.
Does anyone have proper info about this?
 
Strootman isn't as athletic as Vidal is or all as all action. Vidal is slightly more attacking than Strootman as well right now.

As far as speed is concerned then he isn't the quickest but his Workrate is pretty good. He was pretty much a Khedira type water carrier when played as double Pivot earlier but at Roma has showed a creative side to his game as well and added more goals and direct assists to his game in that system and league.

Advantage to him is that he can play both roles pretty well as a specialist #6 distributing from deep and screening defense and also a #8 going box to box now. As a player though i'd say Vidal is a level above still.
 
FromTheBench said:
Strootman isn't as athletic as Vidal is or all as all action. Vidal is slightly more attacking than Strootman as well right now.

As far as speed is concerned then he isn't the quickest but his Workrate is pretty good. He was pretty much a Khedira type water carrier when played as double Pivot earlier but at Roma has showed a creative side to his game as well and added more goals and direct assists to his game in that system and league.

Advantage to him is that he can play both roles pretty well as a specialist #6 distributing from deep and screening defense and also a #8 going box to box now. As a player though i'd say Vidal is a level above still.
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This analysis makes it seem that he will fit better alongside Herrera than Vidal would. Not that I think we are getting either of them soon. :-(
 
Signing him now would be nuts. I'd much rather go for NdJ now and then reassess Strootman's situation next summer.
 
We've become so desperate we'd like United to sign this crock instead of the other crock...
 
Loon said:
We've become so desperate we'd like United to sign this crock instead of the other crock...
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The Manchester United facility for injured football personnel.
 
Some are talking as if this is a cert come January. I fail to see why Roma who have an excellent chance of winning the Serie A this season would just roll over and give us this guy without trying to squeeze every penny.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
Some are talking as if this is a cert come January. I fail to see why Roma who have an excellent chance of winning the Serie A this season would just roll over and give us this guy without trying to squeeze every penny.
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I think even those of us who think LvG is certain to go for him are expecting us to have pay top dollar to nab him. Nobody is expecting Roma to roll over, but we do expect us to go for him because of his links with LvG and our depressing midfield status.
 
People expect us to be in for him, but of course Roma could tell us to bugger off.
 
Loon said:
Or more likely screw us for every penny.
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If Strootman can through his toys out the pram like Benatia did, we could get a decent fee. They've also got a lot of central midfielders, so he he's not as pivotal for the side as Benatia was.
 
It's a good thing for our hopes of signing him that Roma have a tough Champions League group, if they were to go through to the last 16 he'd prob prefer to stay with them. If they're out we'll have a better chance.
 
The idea that Roma will gladly offer us one of their most important players during mid season is ridiculous. When they are likely to be in for the title as well as CL knock out stages.
 
We need to pay the money for him, he will replace Carrick eventually, but January if he recovers and plays at a similar level we need to get him & Song now. It would make Carrick or Strootman for a deep lying playmaker, Herrera for that versatile box to box, Song and Blind as defensive mids and ADM for a more attacking mid or play one of Mata/Januzaj etc in front of the 2..
 
Reckon he'll make a return around November time. See how he is by then. Roma are in a tricky group I believe so hopefully they'll be knocked out of the CL - which will no doubt make it easier for us to snap him up if he looks OK.
 
Roma is a very organized team and they showed to always have quality replacements ready when they sell top players. Rest assured you ain't getting their best player unless they could replace him and that tend to be a tougher task in January.

I think even if they were eliminated form their CL group they would still be one of the favorites for the leauge, Juve loss of Conte is a big blow for them. And I just think this might be Roma's year.
 
Triple.Threat said:
Roma is a very organized team and they showed to always have quality replacements ready when they sell top players. Rest assured you ain't getting their best player unless they could replace him and that tend to be a tougher task in January.

I think even if they were eliminated form their CL group they would still be one of the favorites for the leauge, Juve loss of Conte is a big blow for them. And I just think this might be Roma's year.
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My thoughts exactly. This year is a perfect oportunity for them to go for the title, Juve lost Conte and got Allegri which could be their undoing, and Napoli could put up a fight but they dont have such a good bench and that clown of Benitez is their manager.
So they probably wont gladly let go of Strootman in the winter.
 
Even if we don't get him this year, we're probably going to go for him next summer. A bit similar to the Ruud situation where we simply wait a year until medical issues are resolved.
 
golazo said:
But can we wait?
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Of course we can - because in all honestly, no player we buy now is going to matter unless we start playing as a team. We could buy Vidal or Messi and still struggle because our players aren't properly adapted to each other and Van Gaal's system.
 
Raoul said:
Of course we can - because in all honestly, no player we buy now is going to matter unless we start playing as a team. We could buy Vidal or Messi and still struggle because our players aren't properly adapted to each other and Van Gaal's system.
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Agreed. Strootman isn't the type of player to carry games individualistically anyway.

Messi would make a difference though probably because he simply can produce couple of moments of genius out of nothing each game all on his own atleast. We could use someone like that right now to just carry us while we adapt to this new system and structure and gain confidence and while Van Gaal figures out the players and balance.
 
No doubt Messi would make a difference but he wouldn't make Valencia any less one dimensional or the likes of Fletcher and Fellaini better than they are.
 
Raoul said:
No doubt Messi would make a difference but he wouldn't make Valencia any less one dimensional or the likes of Fletcher and Fellaini better than they are.
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True, but i think we need our front 3 to be able to create chances for themselves as well when we get them enough of the ball like yesterday either individualistically or in between themselves as a combination. For me that's been the biggest problem or atleast one of the biggest problems so far.

Valencia and Young suck at wingbacks but they need to be supplementary attackers not the main creative outlets.

Need something like Suarez Sturridge combo or a Robben/Messi up top making chances for each other spreading wide, nutmegging/dribbling a couple off players. It's all safe and limited/static from the front 3 which ends up with the ball going back to midfield/defenders or out wide to the poor wingbacks we have offensively.
 
FromTheBench said:
True, but i think we need our front 3 to be able to create chances for themselves as well when we get them enough of the ball like yesterday either individualistically or in between themselves as a combination. For me that's been the biggest problem or atleast one of the biggest problems so far.

Valencia and Young suck at wingbacks but they need to be supplementary attackers not the main creative outlets.

Need something like Suarez Sturridge combo or a Robben/Messi up top making chances for each other spreading wide, nutmegging/dribbling a couple off players. It's all safe and limited/static from the front 3 which ends up with the ball going back to midfield/defenders or out wide to the poor wingbacks we have offensively.
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That's because they're past it (or don't fit in Mata's case) and people won't realise it.
 
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