I don't see any scenario where we don't at least make an attempt to get him. It just seems too obvious. Not in January though, think it will wait until the summer.
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I know, I was just saying that I doubt he will go back to Di Maria and Herrera in midfield together again, it's too weak.
--------Carrick---------
--Strootman-Fellaini-
---------Rooney-------
--Di Maria------RvP--
I think this has potential to be an awesome big game side.
Well in that line-up you could use Herrera instead of Fellaini as you are playing Di Maria as a forward, and I agree it would be potentially good as a big game line-up, better if you added a back 4 and keeper though.
Well in that line-up you could use Herrera instead of Fellaini as you are playing Di Maria as a forward, and I agree it would be potentially good as a big game line-up, better if you added a back 4 and keeper though.
Only included Fellaini since he's done well for us in the big games. Him and Strootman in the middle of the park, maybe we'd finally see us bullying teams there instead of the other way round.
With Strootman, Rooney and Carrick as part of the diamond we'd have enough in there to bully opponents and control possession, we could use Ander to add more silk to the mix, I think Strootman will be bought as Fellaini's upgrade, not as a partner.
Like i said, they're not mutually exclusive. There's a lot of combinations in those 6. I do think we'll take a step nearer to knowing our best eleven however.
I must have missed it, do you have link for that?
Can't find it, but he basically said something along the lines of 'we're waiting to see how he recovers from his cruciate.'
The guy can fill the gap if Carrick will be forced to play in defense. It's definitely a player that Louie can use to finally transform from 3-5-2 to his favorite 4-3-3 or any variation of it.
No brainer if he'll be available even for about 30 millions. On start he'll have excellent foundations to settle in with Blind jr. and RVP around him.
Watch that space, Woody.
No brainer if he'll be available even for about 30 millions. On start he'll have excellent foundations to settle in with Blind jr. and RVP around him.
Watch that space, Woody.
Thats good, even more of a reason for him to try force through a move
Strootman seems nailed on for the January buy. Not so much to make a push for the prem trophy (out of reach, in truth), but to get the bedding in period done and dusted before next season begins.
Louis just doesn't come across as the kinds of guy who'd be happy to wait for the one player he really wants.
Louis just doesn't come across as the kinds of guy who'd be happy to wait for the one player he really wants.
Said something like he can't comment on other players as he doesn't know them, think he was asked about Vidal, but them he brought up strootman and how he knows strootman from the national team and that we'll look at how he recovers.
Watching Roma-Milan. No sign of him. If this happened to us, we'd all be saying "he's off".
The muppet in me is rising..
To me it seems unlikely we sign him. First because of the recovery period, we've heard enough about the 12 months it takes to get back in form after an ACL injury. Falcao and Khedira and their injury struggles after recovery are recent examples of that. It was only March when Strootman got injured.
Secondly, if our defenders are back to fitness, Carrick won't have to fill in in defense. So where will Strootman play?
Scenario 1:
We play with a 3 man midfield in a 4-3-3 or 5-3-2. Carrick takes spot #1 in midfield. Strootman next to him spot #2. Leaving room for 1 player, normally a #10. Say we play Rooney there, then the bench is Mata, Fellaini, Herrera, Blind (and also Fletcher and Ando): this means we are benching what, 120 million worth of midfielders? Midfielders we all just signed in the last 15 months? Makes no sense at all. And it would also mean our record signing Angel Di Maria has to move to the wing, while he had his best season ever playing in midfield.
Scenario 2:
We play with a 4 man midfield. No, wingers, so Di Maria plays from midfield, that's spot #1. Carrick gets #2. Strootman spot #3. Again leaving room for only one of Mata, Herrera, Fellani, Blind. Plus two of Rooney, Falcao, RVP, Wilson to be dropped because we play with 2 strikers.
Sure Strootman would give us even more options and he's a good player if he gets to full fitness again, but it makes no sense for us to get him in Januari.
Secondly, if our defenders are back to fitness, Carrick won't have to fill in in defense. So where will Strootman play?
Scenario 1:
We play with a 3 man midfield in a 4-3-3 or 5-3-2. Carrick takes spot #1 in midfield. Strootman next to him spot #2. Leaving room for 1 player, normally a #10. Say we play Rooney there, then the bench is Mata, Fellaini, Herrera, Blind (and also Fletcher and Ando): this means we are benching what, 120 million worth of midfielders? Midfielders we all just signed in the last 15 months? Makes no sense at all. And it would also mean our record signing Angel Di Maria has to move to the wing, while he had his best season ever playing in midfield.
Scenario 2:
We play with a 4 man midfield. No, wingers, so Di Maria plays from midfield, that's spot #1. Carrick gets #2. Strootman spot #3. Again leaving room for only one of Mata, Herrera, Fellani, Blind. Plus two of Rooney, Falcao, RVP, Wilson to be dropped because we play with 2 strikers.
Sure Strootman would give us even more options and he's a good player if he gets to full fitness again, but it makes no sense for us to get him in Januari.
If that happened to us we'd all think his leg had fallen off in training that week.Watching Roma-Milan. No sign of him. If this happened to us, we'd all be saying "he's off".
If he isn't playing and tbh Roma aren't that great. I would be worried that he isn't yet fit. If we sign another recovering player in January it would be absolute madness.
If that is the case, he better be bloody fit, or it could be a disaster and just causing even more selection problems.Or they don't want to play a player who is already sold.
Oddly enough our injury crisis has made selection much simpler. Its when they're all fit that the headaches will arise.
That was my first thought too. Roma are thinking Strootman wants to go and are knowing we want him for 25-30m in January.Watching Roma-Milan. No sign of him. If this happened to us, we'd all be saying "he's off".
Yep. He was on the bench and could've played, especially since the opponent was Milan. Either they are doing a Van Gaal and bringing him back extremely slowly and gradually to get him match fit, or they don't want to risk him before a potential sale in Jan.
He's not playing because he can't get into the team since coming back from injury.
We need him in the summer, right now our most pressing issues are central defender, versatile fullback and possibly a speedy, prolific option on the wings. If we are doing business in January then it should be aimed at fulfilling those requirements.
Torres comes to mind, had injury concerns with Liverpool the year or so prior his move, Chelsea just came in with an outlay of 50mill before really seeing how he recovered for an extended period with Liverpool, in all honesty we'd all love to see 1 or 2 signing this window but we should wait on Strootman, the fee he'd cost wouldn't be buttons from a business point of view.
If he can't get back into the team at Roma and prove he is totally fit, we shouldn't touch him. He's not the only player we can sign for that position.
Roma haven't been great, I watched them yesterday and they have been disappointing in the CL. You would think they'd be desperate to get him back in the side. So as someone said there is already a deal in place or we should steer well clear.
Well Roma's midfield isn't full of Darren Fletcher's. They've quality players like De Rossi, Pjanic, Nainggolan and even the old Keita plays well.
De Rossi has been pretty poor, no? Benched in the last CL game the other week.
Our overriding need is in midfield. It may be daft to buy a player who hasn't fully recovered from injury, but it would be even more daft to pass up an opportunity to strengthen the weakest part of the squad.
Tough one to call. Could end up like Ruud, could end up like Hargreaves.
Or Anderson.
I hope we wait till we are sure of his recovery. We have enough players till next season with no CL football. If desperate, I hope we give our youngsters a chance.
The Roma midfielder we should all want is Nainggolan. Maybe can't control the game in the same fashion as Strootman can, but he runs all day, makes his tackles and isn't afraid to get forward.
Do not want.
Well, if he's as good as we think he is, then he should be able to get back into the team. My point is, there's a big question mark on his fitness, he has to prove that he has fully overcome his injury before we should even consider going in for him, especially for the amount being thrown about. He's not the only good midfielder in Europe.
Or maybe he's not fully fit or match fit.
If they don't bring him on he will never get match fit and if he isn't fit yet then we should leave it until summer. We should let other teams recuperate their own players.
Not fancy enough, less stats in football manager than strootman
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