Matter of when and not if it would seem...
Kevin Strootman
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You are right, i should have. You are talking about players that you don't know, all three of them.
And you do?
These three yes, but there is a lot of players that i don't know or understand, most PL players for example or like i said Carvalho, Koke.
I don't blame you or anything, but Invictus is trying to convince you of something, when it will be impossible until you see that by yourself.
You are presumtious, I will give you that.
I don't mind brigning him in, LVG seems to rate him highly so it's good enough for me, but please for love of God, check his fitness status first, I don't want another player who might need another 6 months of recovery/getting to full fitness or worse, getting constantly injured.
Would he play as DM or is he going to play with Carrick/Blind instead of you reckon?
He's a box to box midfielder as far as I'm concerned, so he'd be up against Fellaini and Herrera in that aspect.
Before his injury, he was easily on Matic's level. And was playing better than Pogba. And was significantly better than Naigolan.
Currently, he seems to be on Fletcher's level. Would be interesting to see how he progresses, and in my opinion would be stupid to sign him for big money on Jan, cause we don't know if he'll return to his best. If he does though, then splash the cash for him on the summer.
He just can not fatham the fact you think he is a) an Average player and b) Pogba was a better player last season in Seria A
Which probably most people who watched Roma and Juve last season prior to Strootmans injury would disagree with you on.
However you are indeed entitled to your opinion, not eveyone sees things the same way.
Well if we consider van Gaal has traditionally played with a holding player, a box-to-box midfielder and a playmaker in his midfield three... We could have...
Now that's a tasty midfield.
Carrick/Blind
Strootman/Fellaini Mata/Herrera
Strootman/Fellaini Mata/Herrera
Now that's a tasty midfield.
I am,
i presumed that you don't know them because, you said that you didn't saw Matic play for Benfica, because you called Strootman immobile and at Fellaini level, and because Pogba is a very talented player but he is not the best midfielder in the serie A, he wasn't last season and he is on alternating current".
Yup and Strootman is pretty big too, isn't he?
This means that if we're up against Los Angeles Lakers for example, we can use Fellaini and Strootman for greater height. Great times are coming lads.
I presume you are extensive watcher of the Portuguese league then and are familiar with how Matic played for Benfica? And why does not watching Matic at Benfica result in my observation from watching him at CHelsea irrelevant? And Strootman is immobile, no getting away from. Also please tell me where I called Pogba the best CM in the league? You can take your time.
The Belgian has been just as good as Strootman was last season if not better. Pogba was better than both.
Not really. I have watched quite a lot of Roma last year (my brother supports them), and I don't think that it is the case. Obviously, opinions and other stuff...
Stats are quite clearly on Strootman's favour, but then you make them irrelevant by saying that 'I watch the game with my eyes'.
You have been seriously underrating Strootman, to the degree that people may be forgiven for thinking that you haven't eeven watched him last season.
I'm not an extensive watcher of the portuguese league, i have seen all Benfica european games in the past years, and the big games (i'll admit only against Porto) in the league, so i have seen Matic two dozens of time at best, during his Benfica years.
You said that Strootman wasn't as good as Matic but Matic today isn't a lot better than Matic at Benfica.
For Pogba, it seems inconceivable for you that Strootman was as good or better than Pogba , when it's not, because Pogba wasn't the best midfielder in the league, last season, Vidal or Pjanic were better than both for example.
And? What does that have to do with rating Matic?
Where did I say Pogba was the best CM in the league???
That's really just down to injuries though, isn't it? I mean by that logic we're also dependent on Valencia, Young and McNair in defence which is a lot worse than having to play Fellaini in midfield.
JP is right to say even the best defence can be exposed if midfield is weak but right now we're struggling to pull any sort of defence together the first place. It is definitely a bigger priority than midfield imo. Hell, it might even manage to weaken our midfield if we have to throw Carrick or Blind into CB again...
the comparison was with Matic at Benfica or maybe i'm mistaken.And I find strange that you are convinced that there is no comparison possible with Pogba when he isn't even the best midfielder in the league.
I'm not sure that Fellaini is playing because of the injuries, he is a genuine starter now. Because of our lack of options in midfield in general.
Roma warn Manchester United off Holland midfielder Kevin Strootman
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-off-holland-midfielder-kevin-strootman
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-off-holland-midfielder-kevin-strootman
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When you think about our midfield options a couple of years ago, it makes it even crazier!
Meh, I interpret it more as a bargaining tactic.
There's a great amount of versatility there. Definitely one of the top midfields in the league. Probably only second to Chelsea.
Why?
Not at all.
Nope, it's when and not if...
Blasphemy! sign all the CM's!
"We don't think we will sell our best players".
Lamela, Benatia, Marquinhos in recent years...
Lamela, Benatia, Marquinhos in recent years...
My fix seems a bit more likely.
He had his good season at Roma on the left of their 3 man midfield. He isnt an upgrade on Blind at the base of a diamond, so if we play that formation he should be further forward
Ok so who in CM is injured that would be playing ahead of Fellaini in the last 6/7 games.
Herrera has clearly been fit and not getting picked.
It's not.
Doubt we'll sign him in January.
This feels very Garay/Gaitan-ish.
He is a DMC. He was going to play that role in a 3man midfield before he got injured at the World Cup.
I'd much rather get a player like Pjanic, a more mobile and creative player.
It depends actually. Sometimes he plays the DM role with Sneidjer and Sam De Jong in Midfield, sometimes he plays no 8 with De Jong playing as the DMC and Sneijder as the attacking CM.
He is not just a DMC, also look at where he played for Roma he was alot more progressive and attacking in their system.
I also would much rather we signed Pjanic too however if we're looking for someone with a bit more of a physical presense so we don't have to play Fellaini then Strootman is the man
He is not, he is a box to box, who is able to play DM, "#10" and #8.
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