I thought he was fine.
Silva is massively overrated. Can't recall a good champions league performance from him.
Kevin De Bruyne
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I thought he was fine.
Silva is massively overrated. Can't recall a good champions league performance from him.
Without doubt but I was responding to him being called average. He's struggling and overhitting a lot of passes etc... I actually think our new tactic of running the ball through Silva to Sane is hurting him a bit too. Its in his court to adapt though because I don't think Pep will return to using a no.10.
Went goalless for 20 odd games. and hitting the post is not a parameter, lol.
To an extent I agree with you, he's slightly out of form, but I would also say that moving a player 30 yards further from the goal and then seeing a dip in his goal-scoring contributions can hardly be considered a surprise, can it?
Regardless, he's not a central midfielder, Pep is fecking insane for playing KdB there out of position over Toure whilst defending a lead. Utter madness. His adjustments at halftime were good but were too little too late to undo the damage he did from his absurd starting lineup.
Because people on here don't understand football. De Bruyne did as well as any City player in the first hald. He couldn't get a clean ball centrally because Monaco's man oriented pressing scheme forced the centre backs and the goal keepers to pass the the flanks. I already explained why using the flanks is terrible in the build up.
De Bruyne was imperious in the second half and CIty created enough chances to win the game outright. Aguero is only world class to people in England. In Europe and South America he is seen as a flop and ovverated.
Yeah I always felt Aguero was a bit overrated on here. Understandably I suppose since he's done well vs United since he's been a City player.
But he's under-performed in Europe and has been diabolical for Argentina.
Its an inch from scoring and its been used for Pogba (who I don't want to drag into this). KDB is putting in kind of solid 6's since new year as opposed to the 8s and 9s. Except tonight which was probably a 2 first half and a 6 or so 2nd.
He's playing far too deep. He's a number 10 and that's where his destructive abilities lie.
He has scored fewer goals than Pogba too, so there's another comparison.
29 goals in 44 european appearances for City though admittedly alot have been against the weaker sides.
Do you ever make a post where you're not telling people that they don't understand football or how much you understand football?
Extremely condescending. It's all football purism and we're all just philistines.This is a great point. His final ball is amazing, but he's quite sloppy and nothing special with his general play.
Repition is the mother of all learning.
He has scored fewer goals than Pogba too, so there's another comparison.
But he's got alot more assists and been involved in a lot more goals but thats besides the point as they're both fine players.
I think its fair to say while Kevin hasn't been at his best playing in a different position he's hardly been average either. I've already posted my criticism's of him in the last few posts and why I think he's dropped off so I won't bother again.
Personally, and I know this is a random bloke off the internet vs an all-winning manager, but Pep is an absolute stubborn idiot for this.
Not only does he not get the best of KDB in that deeper position, but his midfield also loses balance with too many attack minded players and only one natural midfielder (Toure or Fernandinho). His high press is clearly not working with such a set up. He conceded 6 goals to Monaco in 2 ties, yet he's too stubborn to change it.
That's how I see it at least.
We didn't high press Monaco today and we don't high press any teams who are direct with the ball anymore. We haven't since November unless we're at home and its a game we expect to dominate. It's why we've tightened up against the lower teams away from home.
Pep is indeed a stubborn fecker though that I'll give ya and I'm unsure on where he'll use KDB when we get Gundo back (if ever), possibly wide right.
Pressing wasn't the problem. It was your attacking phase that was the big issue. Monaco used their players to man mark your centre backs and goalkeeper to use the flanks in your build up and they started doing the dreaded U shape. They split your Midfieled then used their speed to penetrate the centre that was vacated. You still created enough chances to win which is what Cruijff football at iits heart is. Creating more quality chances than the opposition. Had Jesus been playing you would have gone through. Aguero's only claim to fame was his finishing and the extra work he does now means he is nowehre as sharp in front of goal.
Think I'd rather be the latter. I mean I even agree with some of the stuff but it's done in such a cnuty way that it makes me actively want to go against it.
Looks like fancy dressed agenda driven blocks of pompous writing to me.
But each to their own.
I never said pressing was our problem. I simply stated that we didn't employ a high press today and we haven't against teams who play direct in a couple of months.
Mad how he's avoiding the criticism say a Pogba is getting. Been extremely underwhelming for a while now and cost a fair penny himself.
But does he run around a bit? He always had red cheeks so hard to see if he's putting in the effort.
But does he run around a bit? He always had red cheeks so hard to see if he's putting in the effort.
One bad game doesn't hide the fact he's a fabulous player.
One bad game. Lol. Just the one.
Pogba shouldn't be criticised when he is not being played to his strengths. Pogba is a fantastic player and I have watched every United game and he is usually the only player on your team that creates anything from deep. Ibrahimovic is the reason Pogbas assists statistic are lacklustre. Pogba has been Uniteds best player overall, the problem is clueless people measure performces on price tags rather than actual perfromances. His form in big games has been poor but no more relative to the level the whole Manchester United team played.
Absolutely quality player that's had a dip in his game. Always amazes me how the vultures are quick to circle. Honestly I wonder if people are always 100% in their respective employment. I think they think footballers are robots
Agree and furthermore, I don't remember a player that's hit the post so many times already in one season.
I totally agree.
Preach
I wonder if it's LVG in disguise....
KDB has hit the post once more than Pogba, 6 to 5.
Is this just in the league?
Because I'm sure Pogba has hit the woodwork more times than that across all competitions.
He is a fine player, bit sloppy tonight but City as a whole were poor I thought. Still think Pep is massively wasting his talent in a box to box role, he's a player who should be allowed to cause havoc in the final third rather than being asked to carry the ball forward and build up the play.
Also, at the City fan quoting stats. Large amount of de Bruyne's assists this season have been from set-pieces, his output has drop massively from open play. You can put that down to change in position but he was being deployed in same role earlier in the season and was head and shoulders above any City player at the start of season.
Also, at the City fan quoting stats. Large amount of de Bruyne's assists this season have been from set-pieces, his output has drop massively from open play. You can put that down to change in position but he was being deployed in same role earlier in the season and was head and shoulders above any City player at the start of season.
Thank feck we have this genius to explain football to the rest of us plebs.
You're a donkey, mate. Absolutely nothing I've ever read from you has been even marginally insightful.
lol
Our very own phase of play to educate us plebs in the art of football.
I hope you're not Dutch.
Think he did well in the second half. Some killer passes.
Unfortunately Aguero was pretty useless in front of the goal.
Unfortunately Aguero was pretty useless in front of the goal.
In fairness, his tactical analysis is usually spot on. Including this time
He is their best player in both central midfield and attacking mid. Pep seems to struggle with where to play him. I guess they miss Gundogan.
Exactly this, KDB is very valuable but is being tasked to do too many things with all their injuries
Chance creating machine. Created a goal for Aguero and the latter should also have put away the cross from kdb at the end.