Obviously, but they could buy a replacement before the season starts, give him a few weeks of training with the team. Selling De Bruyne in July with 10 days left in the transfer window would give them more options than now. They wouldn't have to worry about actual matches either, not knowing if they can play him the next day in a league game or not. It's in no way comparable to what we have now. How do you prepare for a game on the weekend if you don't know if your best player is still here or not? Or if he is, if he wants to play or just tries not to get injured so that the deal goes through. It's madness.
Kevin De Bruyne
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So when exactly do you want to close the window? 2 weeks before the season starts? That would make the problems with EL/CL even worse and for what? Because of a few one man teams where that one man turns out to be a manchild?
I don't see the EL/CL playoffs as problems. I find the notion that clubs need to wait until they qualify before they can buy late in the season ridiculous. But then, I think UEFA should make significant changes to the distributon of the CL & EL money anyway, so that the gap isn't there anymore. The huge financial gap between playing CL and EL is a way bigger problem for football than the transfer window.
Oh and I suggested 31st of July on the previous page. And league matches should start 2 weeks later at the earliest.
I don't think it would be bad to have the transfer business sorted before the season, but I think way too much would have to be changed to make that possible, so I guess we have to agree to disagree.
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1301/Premi...nchen-springt-in-de-dans-voor-De-Bruyne.dhtml
According to HLN, Bayern have changed their mind and are now in for KDB.
According to HLN, Bayern have changed their mind and are now in for KDB.
Rumours that we're in for De Bruyne have always been around, but we've made pretty clear cut statements regarding De Bruyne a few weeks ago and there's no reason for us to change our mind.
This is one weird transfer. Somehow I can't shake the feeling that De Bruyne would prefer to move somewhere else and he's the one stalling. And Wolfsburg is happy to do that as well. If he had really made up his mind, he'd push for the move a lot more, especially with only 10 days left in the transfer window. And Wolfsburg would have stopped trying to convince him to stay by offering to double his wages.
This is one weird transfer. Somehow I can't shake the feeling that De Bruyne would prefer to move somewhere else and he's the one stalling. And Wolfsburg is happy to do that as well. If he had really made up his mind, he'd push for the move a lot more, especially with only 10 days left in the transfer window. And Wolfsburg would have stopped trying to convince him to stay by offering to double his wages.
The fact Wolfsburg do not want to sell and have no financial need to sell tells you that the only reason negotiations are still ongoing is precisely because the player has told them he wants to join City.
I'm not so sure anymore. If he really stated that he definitely wants to leave and has no interest in staying anymore, he wouldn't play today in my opinion. If Wolfsburg didn't want to sell, they'd tell City to feck off for good. If it's just about the price, they'd negotiate until they found an agreement without risking an injury. Whatever's happening at the moment is very very odd and it wouldn't be if De Bruyne's decision was 100% final.
It's not that straightforward though. de Bruyne wants to join City, that does not mean he would not accept staying at Wolfsburg should the clubs fail to agree a deal. Wolfsburg clearly do not want to sell him, that much is obvious, however they respect the players wish and that is why negotiations are still ongoing. Not playing de Bruyne today would weaken Wolfsburg's position so it's only natural they play him until a decision is reached. I don't think there's anything odd about the current situation, this is a huge transfer fee involved and Wolfsburg are not a team that can be bullied, the deal will drag on until they are assured they have the best deal possible.
I'm not sold on his mental strengths. Got a move to Chelsea. Didn't hack it there so he forced a move away. Joined a little pond with no pressure and had a team built around him. Shined. Now he's forcing a move again for $$$. He'll join a team that won't be built around him and has a better player already playing in his favored position. Could be another Nasri to me.
How did he do today?
This'll be going on a while. If a move to City was imminent, he wouldn't have played 90 minutes today
the whole team was bad and so was he. He also bottled a huge chance.
Mourinho speaking bad of him again.
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2574833/chelsea-right-to-offload-kevin-de-bruyne-jose-mourinho
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2574833/chelsea-right-to-offload-kevin-de-bruyne-jose-mourinho
Because they are all related to companies that have links to your owners.
The shirt deal (nike, right?) and any other deal that isn't UAE based is on pair with the likes of Spurs.
He's not speaking that bad of KDB to be fair what he is saying is that he was not wrong to sell him as he has now made KDB the player he is and that he made Hazard into a £100m player. The man is a quite simply a genius and never wrong. Do you understand better now......
It reminds me of the time he said 'my team are not ready to be champions' and the press kept saying well Jose knows Cheksea won't win the league as he has stated this! Yet if he did win the league then it wasn't down to his players it was down to him and his genius! Lol you can't make it up he right if he's right and right if he's wrong!
He said he came crying to him and trained badly that doesn't really put De Bruyne in a good light does it?
My post was in a sarcastic tone buddy I was agreeing with you!
I thought the genius part was sarcasm but not the part about making into the player he now is so you had me fooled there
.Wouldn't trust anything Mourinho says. Lampard stated that when he left Chelsea he was never offered a new contract, Mourinho contradicted this when he signed for City and says he chose to leave and stuck by this until near the end of the season when he admitted Lampard had indeed never been offered a new contract. If the man's willing to try and tarnish the reputation of a club legend like Lampard, I have no doubts he wouldn't try and do the same with a hugely exaggerated account of de Bruyne's conduct.
But the people that watch Wolfsburg training sessions (and Wolfsburg has open training sessions) tell that de Bruyne is different in training to what he was last season. Before he was eager in the training sessions - that he was by far the best there, too - that is not the case right now.
Yes, Mourinho for sure talks in the interest of himself and the club - else he would just have been quiet. But deBruyne did not function in the Chelsea world the way he should have. The world in a top team as one of 25 talented guys is just different from the life in a smaller team where a very talented guy is "the one and only". Naldo was it who told yesterday that deBruyne should see that in Wolfsburg everybody is running for him. In Wolfsburg he could have his temper - the older guys stayed calm and they looked away. In a team like Chelsea you cannot behave that way as you do not have a special status.
When I look at the sums that they talk about right - it is a big risk.
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German medias are reporting that De Bruyne wants to leave right now but he's highly prefering a move to Bayern. But Bayern has decided against a transfer this summer (they wanted him for next summer).
So will De Bruyne wait 1 more year? Will he move to City because he wants to leave asap? Or will Bayern change their mind and sign him this summer?
I personally think he will move to City as Bayern has not really a place for him this season, especially not for so much money (even though he is worth it).
So will De Bruyne wait 1 more year? Will he move to City because he wants to leave asap? Or will Bayern change their mind and sign him this summer?
I personally think he will move to City as Bayern has not really a place for him this season, especially not for so much money (even though he is worth it).
Hopefully someone at Bayern has a word with him and tells him to stay put for another season and they'll bring him in next summer.
He should wait a year, play with Wolfsburg in the CL and then join Bayern next summer.
Would Wolfsburg sell to Bayern though? Surely they'd want to sell him abroad if they're determined to challenge Bayern for the title? They seem like a fairly ambitious club and don't really need to sell.
Would Wolfsburg sell to Bayern though? Surely they'd want to sell him abroad if they're determined to challenge Bayern for the title? They seem like a fairly ambitious club and don't really need to sell.
Join Bayern this summer and we can have Muller, we will give Bayern enough money to fund the purchase and have some left over, we are nice that way.
Seems like the agents have offered Bayern last week a buy with backloan (to Wolfburg). Buying now and loaning him back to Wolfsburg for a year. He would even accept less wage.
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I am not so sure were he should play.
Haha, make it happen Woody!!
It would mean the end of Gotze, he wont get much playing time if they signed KDB and kept him in the team. Also cant see them spending £50m to then loan him back to the club, not a likely scenario. Best option would be to go to Wolfsburg and agree things with them for the £50m on the basis he stays for a season and then pay the money at the end of the season or forfeit X amount, like a first refusal clause. Win, win for Wolfsburg, they get him for another season and get a good fee for him at the end of it unless he has a stinker of a season.
It wouldn't really mean the end of Gotze.
You expect them to be phasing out Ribery and Robben. I think they'd start with Ribery because of his injury problems.
You expect them to be phasing out Ribery and Robben. I think they'd start with Ribery because of his injury problems.
Yep, it just makes sense. If Bayern are really after De Bruyne, I don't think City stand a chance unless he wants to return to the Premier League.
Neither Götze nor De Bruyne are doing the job Robben does, though. They don´t inject the pace, directness and goal threat as the dutch does. Robben´s chosen successor seems to be Costa.
They are far more similar to Ribery as both are show runners and direct games. If they sign De Bruyne next season, then it will be because they don´t trust Götze to fill the void the French has left behind. I don´t see a formation with both players working or at least not while getting the best out of both.
No. Both wingers have contracts until 2017 - and if they are fit the young ones (even Costa) are not up to their class on the wing. And de Bruyne is not a winger in a ball possession system. He might be better there than Götze is - but... it is all about the position behind the striker - that is not even existent in a 4-3-3...
Is it embarrassing yet?
Not sure how legit...
The whole buy him now and loan him back thing is an awful idea. I hope we don't do that.
How relieable is BILD for Wolfsburg? The Bild rumours about Bayern did not come from BILD Bayern...
I'd love to sign him just to see the meltdown on Bluemoon.
Then i'd rather take him this season. It doesn't seem like Ribery is recovering anyways, so why not? Use him as our LW for this season and see if it works out. On that position he is even able to play together with Götze as his position is in the middle (there he can rotate with Müller/Lewy).
For £50m? No thanks.
Griezmann instead please.
Griezmann instead please.
That sounds like a stupid idea. Buy him and make him part of your team now or let him where he is respectively someone else should get him.
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