Music Kendrick Lamar

Never gonna happen. Especially now we're in this TikTok era of snippets. The good thing is that kind of stuff is available, it's just not at the Superbowl half time show I guess.
Yeah, I know. I’m basically like the Skinner gif. But the hype around these performances really gets me the wrong way. Especially when I read shit like Kendrick took on corporate America or stuff like that afterwards.
 
that's the entire point, yeah

America wants bells and whistles and the hits, but he gave them an artistic performance, with all black people dressed in red, white, and blue

SLJ's commentary is not really needed to hammer in the metaphor from there, but it's America man, they don't do subtlety, and that is probably referential too

All black people dressed in red, white and blue. Yes. Black people are Americans. Wow. I never thought of that

Hits are not opposite to an artistic performance. We've seen performers from the past nail it on both fronts

The commentary was leading to something and the train just... never left the station (unless you count NLU as some sort of counterculture anthem instead of simply a vicious diss song)
 
Of course I’m yelling at clouds. It just gets me angry when people pretend this is somehow a good performance or anything that happened on this stage was courageous. And that’s not about Kendrick as such. I actually like him. It’s a general point. This is the musical equivalent of marvel movies. Instead of captain america showing up for an after credit scene, there’s Serena Williams dancing weirdly. I just wish they’d book someone who plays 2 to 4 complete songs well and then leaves the stage again.
There is absolute more to this than that. She is one of the most famous people from Compton and dancing a dance originated in that area. Kendrick has always been about Compton.
I do get your point and of course the whole superbowl is going to be controlled and free of much controversy.
For me, Serena dancing is more like a well hidden easter egg that nods to the "real" fans of the old comics in a otherwise supercomers Marvel movie.
 
All black people dressed in red, white and blue. Yes. Black people are Americans. Wow. I never thought of that

Hits are not opposite to an artistic performance. We've seen performers from the past nail it on both fronts

The commentary was leading to something and the train just... never left the station (unless you count NLU as some sort of counterculture anthem instead of simply a vicious diss song)

I can't believe you're still arguing this after you've had a minute to think it through

he used uncle sam ffs wake up
 
There is absolute more to this than that. She is one of the most famous people from Compton and dancing a dance originated in that area. Kendrick has always been about Compton.
I do get your point and of course the whole superbowl is going to be controlled and free of much controversy.
For me, Serena dancing is more like a well hidden easter egg that nods to the "real" fans of the old comics in a otherwise supercomers Marvel movie.

Given how her sister died I never got her fascination with C-walking but to each their own
 
I can't believe you're still arguing this after you've had a minute to think it through

he used uncle sam ffs wake up

Wesley's Theory off of TPAB would have been a perfect fit with the Uncle Sam analogy, and the lyrics would have fit, and since it's a jazz song, he was in the perfect city to pull that sort of performance off with a big brass band!

This instead was just a promo for GNC. Layering Samuel Jackson commentary on it doesn't elevate it to having some deep message for corporate America
 
Wesley's Theory off of TPAB would have been a perfect fit with the Uncle Sam analogy, and the lyrics would have fit, and since it's a jazz song, he was in the perfect city to pull that sort of performance off with a big brass band!

This instead was just a promo for GNC. Layering Samuel Jackson commentary on it doesn't elevate it to having some deep message for corporate America

It's a blunt metaphor

Uncle Sam spends the entire time telling Kendrick to keep it from being too loud and too ghetto

Whilst Kendrick, dressed like he's from the ghetto, keeps defying him, making it louder and more ghetto, which upsets Uncle Sam

Unlce Sam represents american consumerism and greed and the fake dreams sold to black people

Kendrick as a musician and person has always talked about these themes. And when given the superbowl HT show has decided to build his entire show around that concept

I understand people who don't know his music won't pick up on this, but that's what he was aiming for

he knew people would hate this, but it will be remembered
 
His catalog doesn't translate to these events.

He isn't an OutKast or Kanye or Jay-Z with more crossover hits.
He could have easily done Swimming Pools, Dont Kill my Vibe, Alright, N95, Rigamortis, ADHD, King Kunta to name but a few they'd have filled 15 minutes and they're lively songs.
 
I was wrong then, some fans won't pick up on it as well
Have you considered the possibility that some might have picked up on this extremely obvious messaging and just don’t see anything impressive about it?
 
Have you considered the possibility that some might have picked up on this extremely obvious messaging and just don’t see anything impressive about it?

why would I consider that? I couldn't care less if people don't like stuff
 
So brave.

hard to even understand what your point is - the other guy said he wasn’t political enough, and when presented with evidence to the contrary, you’re now just moaning about that evidence?

It’s weird the things people get so worked up about.
 
hard to even understand what your point is - the other guy said he wasn’t political enough, and when presented with evidence to the contrary, you’re now just moaning about that evidence?

It’s weird the things people get so worked up about.
My point is, that if you want to be political, then do it. But what he did yesterday was merely a small hint of political messaging, that ultimately didn’t attack any ideology or person and didn’t provoke any sort of discussion around anything. He just played with political imagery without saying anything at all. And in the context of the current US political landscape, that’s just dull and pointless. I’d go so far and say it actually serves those in power, as it offers legitimacy to the context in which it happened. A performance like this is merely a fig leaf for corporate America.

I didn’t expect him to be political at all. Would not have minded it at all if he wasn’t. But to play with this symbolism without actually doing any sort of meaningful protest at all actually appropriates counter culture and rap into the framework of capitalist America.
Just don’t talk about the revolution being televised if you then go on to deliver the least offensive and provocative performance imaginable.
 
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Look we can't all reach the same level of wit and insight as people who still call it the "Superb Owl", those are high standards for any artist to hit.
 
and Drake still getting it :lol:

Can't remember the last time a rapper losing a beef and still getting mercilessly taken down almost a year later.
 
"Say Drake..."

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Does Drake even come back and make music anymore after this? He is just so "uncool" now. Who is going to say they're going to a Drake gig? The guy is synonymous with "Certified Paedophile" now.
 
"Say Drake..."

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Does Drake even come back and make music anymore after this? He is just so "uncool" now. Who is going to say they're going to a Drake gig? The guy is synonymous with "Certified Paedophile" now.

I'm surprised he doesn't have more legal troubles to be honest, he's got wrong'un written all over him
 
Does Drake even come back and make music anymore after this? He is just so "uncool" now. Who is going to say they're going to a Drake gig? The guy is synonymous with "Certified Paedophile" now.

Of course he does. He's one of the top streaming artists still. He's selling out his Australia tour.

In a year everyone will move on, like they did for Jay-Z and Ja Rule and others at the losing end of rap beefs.
 
Of course he does. He's one of the top streaming artists still. He's selling out his Australia tour.

In a year everyone will move on, like they did for Jay-Z and Ja Rule and others at the losing end of rap beefs.

I agree with you that he'll come back, most people don't care

but he lost so bad he's definitely taken on some big big damage
 
Of course he does. He's one of the top streaming artists still. He's selling out his Australia tour.

In a year everyone will move on, like they did for Jay-Z and Ja Rule and others at the losing end of rap beefs.
Ja Rule was done after the 50 beef. He basically disappeared until the fyre festival fiasco. The last hits I can remember him having were Clap Back and New York.

Jay-Z survived but he was too good and influential at that point. Unless Drake can make The Black Album he's done.