Music Kendrick Lamar

Eminem was smart in that he never feuded with a rapper who could hand his ass to him

Em hasn't started beef with anyone since his goofy Slim Shady alter-ego days 2 decades ago.

On the flipside, not sure why anyone would pick a beef with Em unless they have a deathwish?

Had Drake picked beef with Em, he would have gotten ethered way worse than Kendrick obliterated him. Killshot was a way better diss track.

Clout chaser like the game tried provoking him simply to revive their own dwindling careers. Em was smart and mature enough not to give these trolls any attention.

In all honesty, only Nas can rival Em. Nas respects Em regardless.
 
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That’s mad. It was everywhere all summer.
I mean I’m not in the US and he isn’t that big globally. Of course I know about him and his success, but not being a fan of rap music, I suppose I don’t get his music on my feed. But I do get content related to this beef and this Super Bowl has sent the algorithm into overdrive.
 
I mean I’m not in the US and he isn’t that big globally. Of course I know about him and his success, but not being a fan of rap music, I suppose I don’t get his music on my feed. But I do get content related to this beef and this Super Bowl has sent the algorithm into overdrive.
He's absolutely huge globally! He's one of the best known rappers in the world and one of the greatest of all time, of course he's huge globally!
 
He's absolutely huge globally! He's one of the best known rappers in the world and one of the greatest of all time, of course he's huge globally!
I mean he’s big but he’s not really been a household name globally like Taylor Swift, Gaga etc I’m sure my folks wouldn’t know who he is. I’m taking a very modern music layman perspective. Obviously anyone who keeps an eye on the music scene would know. I don’t think rap has as wide an appeal as Pop (what does?) either. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a big appeal and the passion of those to whom it does, isn’t enormous.
 
My point is, that if you want to be political, then do it. But what he did yesterday was merely a small hint of political messaging, that ultimately didn’t attack any ideology or person and didn’t provoke any sort of discussion around anything. He just played with political imagery without saying anything at all. And in the context of the current US political landscape, that’s just dull and pointless. I’d go so far and say it actually serves those in power, as it offers legitimacy to the context in which it happened. A performance like this is merely a fig leaf for corporate America.

I didn’t expect him to be political at all. Would not have minded it at all if he wasn’t. But to play with this symbolism without actually doing any sort of meaningful protest at all actually appropriates counter culture and rap into the framework of capitalist America.
Just don’t talk about the revolution being televised if you then go on to deliver the least offensive and provocative performance imaginable.
but yet the magas (and prob the potus) hated it....
 
i get it.... all or nothing right? ya'll want him to go all the way out or just do nothing at all....

i dont see the point in him putting a crosshair on his back, for me, i saw it as a knowing nod and now they can do what they need to do in the shadows..... hopefully
 
i get it.... all or nothing right? ya'll want him to go all the way out or just do nothing at all....

i dont see the point in him putting a crosshair on his back, for me, i saw it as a knowing nod and now they can do what they need to do in the shadows..... hopefully

You are overthinking this man. Shadows? We're starting to sound like 5 percenters. Was he going to be assassinated if he performed Alright ffs

Even if he had the purest of intents, the execution of whatever in his head was crap. Ok, mediocre

We're all guilty of (not literally, figuratively) diving head first into shallow pools. It's not that deep
 
You are overthinking this man. Shadows? We're starting to sound like 5 percenters. Was he going to be assassinated if he performed Alright ffs

Even if he had the purest of intents, the execution of whatever in his head was crap. Ok, mediocre

We're all guilty of (not literally, figuratively) diving head first into shallow pools. It's not that deep
be honest you have no idea what his intentions are, you think you do

we are theorising what are his intents and how far he should have gone - and some of you are saying he should do more..... why should he do something more at the superbowl? as opposed to doing things behind the scenes? why should he expose himself? because you think its not enough of something? what is that something?

i think your response shows the narrow view you have of this - its bigger than hip-hop, it's culture, and right now this culture already has a target on it's back
 
be honest you have no idea what his intentions are, you think you do

we are theorising what are his intents and how far he should have gone - and some of you are saying he should do more..... why should he do something more at the superbowl? as opposed to doing things behind the scenes? why should he expose himself? because you think its not enough of something? what is that something?

i think your response shows the narrow view you have of this - its bigger than hip-hop, it's culture, and right now this culture already has a target on it's back



Clearly define culture, quickly, and I'll make a donation to your favorite charity

I don't know what his intentions are. I'm not claiming to know what his intents are. I don't even care. Unless I'm told, "here is what my intents are", I'm focusing on what I'm being shown, and my point is that I saw a big bowl of nothing leading up to NLU

We wouldn't be debating what the message was if it was Public Enemy on stage. Because they're not putting Easter eggs on the field forcing you to decipher what the feck they are talking about, it'll be crystal clear what their intent and message is.

My initial take watching the performance was, NLU aside, it was ass. Couldn't hear much of what he was saying. The dancers were cool but again, I'm not interested in deciphering deeper meanings to their flag colors. And Samuel Jackson was an unnecessary prop, because there was no direct link between his lines and the music.

The something I was expecting was: knock out the performance aspect (he didn't), and if you have a message, fecking say it, don't insinuate it, leaving it open to interpretation. This isn't a Nolan film
 
The audio was trash for whatever reason. I don't think his voice carries enough though.
 
Probably because it was crap...

yeah I don’t think they hated it for whatever message he may or may not have been portraying

it just doesn’t resonate with that demographic, even if he did do the bells and whistles greatest hits performance to pander to the crowd
 
Thought it was a meh performance, but not for anything to do with its politics.

It just didn't have the crossover hits or performance/spectacle level required to be a good halftime show, assuming "good" means having the ability to impress the majority of people watching who aren't particularly fans of the performer.

Don't think that's really Kendrick's fault though, he just isn't that sort of act.
 
yeah I don’t think they hated it for whatever message he may or may not have been portraying

it just doesn’t resonate with that demographic, even if he did do the bells and whistles greatest hits performance to pander to the crowd

Man, he had so many options. Recognize that as a solo act you probably can't carry this alone. Bring in some help. SZA was awful. Get the Roots or Jon Batiste to back you up. Perform your melodic hits. Have a hologram of Nipsey Hussle come on and scream feck Donald Trump. Transition to NLU at the end. Give a 15 second speech containing all the stuff you wanted to convey so badly through dancers and spoken word through Samuel Jackson. Exit scene.
 
Man, he had so many options. Recognize that as a solo act you probably can't carry this alone. Bring in some help. SZA was awful. Get the Roots or Jon Batiste to back you up. Perform your melodic hits. Have a hologram of Nipsey Hussle come on and scream feck Donald Trump. Transition to NLU at the end. Give a 15 second speech containing all the stuff you wanted to convey so badly through dancers and spoken word through Samuel Jackson. Exit scene.
This feels mega cringe.