Keir Starmer Labour Leader
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There is no damage, it's cornstarch you moron.
I saw children reduced to bags of bones and I saw children smeared across roadways and I saw Keir Starmer defending it.
Well at least it's something he has a strong opinion about.
There's some sort of alga on there. Apparently more valuable than the countless nature we are losing through climate change and more rage-inducing than the murder of human children.
He's not started well in this Question Time special.
I thought I couldn't dislike someone mote than Southgate tonight... in steps Sir liar Starmer.
Although this presenter is obviously a Tory.
Although this presenter is obviously a Tory.
When you have an unassailable lead by offering nothing other than not being, officially, a Tory, there is nothing to win in these debates. Luckily, Little Rishi Sunak is waiting in the wing, ready for someone to hold his sparkling water.
Thought he did very well in a lot of questions to be fair.
Some audience questions and host interventions are dim.
Outside of the rest of this debate, I think this is one of the most important questions in all of politics at the moment. So much of the rise in right wing politics is based on finding issues of division. We can see the effects of it in the UK after 14 years of Tory rule. We need to heal as a country because of what the politics of hate and division has done to us. I fear Europe and other countries will go down the same route and I can only hope that Starmer and a potential Labour majority will go some way to doing that. Probably one of the more genuine moments I have seen from him actually.
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It's a nice point and the sooner we can more away from the more extreme rhetoric the better.
Oh, and if you want it to display as embedded preview you need to change the 'x' to 'twitter' in the URL. It would be good if the admins could get some fix in place for automating that.
Ah, I was wondering why it wasn't embedded, I thought it was putting the www. in front
It took me more than a few refreshes looking at preview to work it out
It's a good point and one I definitely agree with but probably a lie.
Yeah that's the best I think I've ever seen him come across. Certainly since he became Labour leader. Genuine or not, he actually sounded like a grown up and someone you'd want representing you.
The economy is both a pie and household income. Politicians need to be smart and score the open goals. The divisions of the past years have divided a country that now needs to heal.
His most embarrassing moment today was trying to defend ever thinking JC would make a great PM.
There are people on here who still think he would have.
It's comedy gold when you think about it.
There are people on here who still think he would have.
It's comedy gold when you think about it.
Comedy gold was the PM we got and the 2 that followed.
If you think about it...
As much as I dislike him generally, it was nice to see him say this and it's something he said that I genuinely think he believes, which is usually hard to pinpoint.
Bad start, but I think as he went on he gained steam and looked a much more confident speaker.
My main criticism is not telling the shithead that brought up the private school VAT policy to go feck himself.
Well I was definitely not one of those people and I made my views on JC pretty clear at the time. So much so that for the first time I actually thought of not voting Labour, but did in the end.
All Starmer needed to say was that he said it at the time but in retrospect realised it was a mistake. Full stop.
Must confess I didn't watch it. But I am pleased to hear you say that.
Assuming Labour wins, he is going to be the PM and I really do hope he turns out to be a good one.
It's a pretty facile point. They make up motives and justify them to themselves as they go along.
Harm is what matters and what one does to prevent it, not the feeble "ooh we're trying to do our best" protestations of feckless politicians. I don't want the portrait of a tormented soul struggling to walk a precarious line from my politics. I want effort and courage to do what is right even when it is inconvenient. Whether that be telling the hard truths on climate change and the sacrifices required, or telling the rich that they might have to contribute more to get children out of poverty, or telling your Israeli friends to stop melting children for fun.
Being nicer, being kind, a gentler politics means shit all if below the surface you are running policies that continue to harm the vulnerable and protect the harmful.
Is trying to silence the Forde Report being kind?
Is using Diane Abbott and Brianna Ghey as political props being kind?
Is saying that "Israel has that right" in response to a question about starving a people, being kind?
I watched some of it on Youtube after the football. Seemed just the same, waffling on without giving any answers and going off subject as in all the other interviews.
He didn't mention his father though but a new character has appeared, his sister. He needs to be a good one.
If he was this type of person in answer to every question, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. But he's crossed too many red lines for me. Great answer, though.
Back to the usual nothing answers. Condemns what the Tories have done but refuses to say if he'd change it.
I listened to a funny poem about him today, I will post it when I find it on twitter.
Can't wait.
There once was a leader from Labiour
We voted him to be our saviour
But things hit the skids
He starved all our kids
What typical Tory behaviour.
We voted him to be our saviour
But things hit the skids
He starved all our kids
What typical Tory behaviour.
There is a house in Surrey
They call the pebble-dash semi
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm one
My mother was a nurse
She helped privatise in a hurry
My father was a tool making man
Down in Surrey
They call the pebble-dash semi
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm one
My mother was a nurse
She helped privatise in a hurry
My father was a tool making man
Down in Surrey
There is a house in Surrey
They call the pebble-dash semi
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm one
My mother was a nurse
She helped privatise in a hurry
My father was a tool making man
Down in Surrey
My daddy was a tool maker
But he never hurt nobody
He just loved to live that way
But I'm going to steal your vote
Some is rich, and some is poor
And that's the way the world is
But I don't believe in laying back
Sayin' how bad your luck is
But he never hurt nobody
He just loved to live that way
But I'm going to steal your vote
Some is rich, and some is poor
And that's the way the world is
But I don't believe in laying back
Sayin' how bad your luck is
There is a house in Surrey
They call the pebble-dash semi
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God, I know I'm one
My mother was a nurse
She helped privatise in a hurry
My father was a tool making man
Down in Surrey
As you say, this has essentially been Labour's policy since he became leader. Sit back, say nothing, let the Tories be Tories.
His father was a toolmaker, don't you see?
That makes him just like you and me.
His father was a toolmaker, that's the key
To rebuilding this country's economy
His father was a toolmaker, don't you know?
That's the only idea he has ready to go
His father was a toolmaker, haven't you heard?
He'd probably be sad his son's a turd.
In case people do not know, his mum was a nurse. But a new information today is his sister is a nurse too.
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Starmer keeps giving interviews to The Sun, and as far as I know they're still generally on the city of Liverpool's shit list. Does this mean Labour are going to lose a lot of support in Liverpool, and if so which party stands to benefit? Is there any chance Liverpool goes Green / Lib Dem?