Music Kanye West

I think all this is deliberate. Just a hunch.

It is - he seems to think he can gain a plastic artist's reputation for obsessive perfectionism if he keeps scrapping certain plans and refining others. Recently, he's even had the same approach to the interior design of houses he's bought.
 
He took Real Friends off soundcloud which is a fecking pain
 
People in here talking about having to listen to an album 6 times before they liked it. Who the feck has the time to listen to an album they don't like, 5 times, just in the hope the next one 'is the one'?

Sounds like the musical equivalent of buying a Liverpool season ticket.
 
People in here talking about having to listen to an album 6 times before they liked it. Who the feck has the time to listen to an album they don't like, 5 times, just in the hope the next one 'is the one'?

Sounds like the musical equivalent of buying a Liverpool season ticket.

Well, personally, I didn't dislike it at it first, and considering the album is only 40 mins long it's not particularly time consuming over a few months.
 
It is - he seems to think he can gain a plastic artist's reputation for obsessive perfectionism if he keeps scrapping certain plans and refining others. Recently, he's even had the same approach to the interior design of houses he's bought.

I am starting to get impression that you are not a fan Steve.

People in here talking about having to listen to an album 6 times before they liked it. Who the feck has the time to listen to an album they don't like, 5 times, just in the hope the next one 'is the one'?

Sounds like the musical equivalent of buying a Liverpool season ticket.

I listen to every album I get at least three times. Some albums are more experimental and the hooks are less apparent. Many listens are also sometimes needed to get over my prejudices that I might have against the artist or genre.

I tend to listen to new music whilst walking the dog or driving.
 
I am starting to get impression that you are not a fan Steve.

I'm not, mate. As far as I can see, Kanye does only thing thing very well: production. Having his finger in so many pies doesn't make him the Renaissance man he thinks he is.
 
The album clearly wasn't ready for release, he's in danger of losing interest from listeners the longer this goes on.
 
I'm not, mate. As far as I can see, Kanye does only thing thing very well: production. Having his finger in so many pies doesn't make him the Renaissance man he thinks he is.
You need to buy better HQ stereo equipment, Steve, obviously.
 
I'm not, mate. As far as I can see, Kanye does only thing thing very well: production. Having his finger in so many pies doesn't make him the Renaissance man he thinks he is.

I tend to agree with your critique. The circus around this album has been ridiculous and irritating. I just want to listen to the end product, more so to see what direction he goes in now he has been superseded within the genre. I think he knows he has been too which is why the album is a year late. I would probably indifferent to him if he had never made MBDTF. The rest of his stuff is good but not great IMO. MBDTF is so good, to my ears anyway, that I became a fan. I firmly believed that he has peaked but I will always be interested to hear what he comes up with.

If he was a 'genius' though I tend to think that he would not have to spend so much time trying to prove that he is one.

You need to buy better HQ stereo equipment, Steve, obviously.

:lol:

It may sound like I am being pretentious but if you listen to 'Lost in the World', for example, on studio monitors you can hear all of the composite parts of the multi layered vocals in much clearer definition and it is absolutely brilliant.

I think all music is better on good quality audio because you can hear what is going on better, the separation of the composite parts.
 
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People in here talking about having to listen to an album 6 times before they liked it. Who the feck has the time to listen to an album they don't like, 5 times, just in the hope the next one 'is the one'?

Sounds like the musical equivalent of buying a Liverpool season ticket.
Like 808s and Heartbreaks - was odd to my hip-hop ear at first, but a few listens in I started to love it.
 
Rado_N said:
You need to buy better HQ stereo equipment, Steve, obviously.

:lol::lol:

Classical Mechanic said:
The circus around this album has been ridiculous and irritating.

It really, really doesn't help that he formed this mutually-beneficial publicity alliance with the Kardashians too. Their very presence, ubiquitous as it is, annoys people. Seeing those Klowns at the event looking like the Romanovs dressed by Ratners only adds to the impression that Kanye is a clown too (which is unfair to him); they're like the Bundys after winning the lottery:

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I agree Steve. The Kardashian's are the worst of pop culture, something what Kanye is obsessed with if you listen to his lyrics. I tend to ignore all the circus etc. I don't subscribe to his twitter or any of that stuff.
 
People in here talking about having to listen to an album 6 times before they liked it. Who the feck has the time to listen to an album they don't like, 5 times, just in the hope the next one 'is the one'?

Sounds like the musical equivalent of buying a Liverpool season ticket.
Because I like Kayne, and I love music, so I like to give things chances. Just because I listen to an album once doesn't mean I won't be in a different mind frame or mood the next time round and hear it differently. There's albums I've listened to probably hundreds of times and there's still parts of them that I hear on new listens and enjoy.
 
Kanye, for all his egotism, at least contributes to culture.
 
Kanye, for all his egotism, at least contributes to culture.

He has done a lot for changing social attitudes as well. He championed gay rights and in the 1990s it would have been unthinkable for the worlds biggest Hip Hop star to have a male to female transgender person in their entourage.
 
Kanye, for all his egotism, at least contributes to culture.
He's a nob, but he is openly honest about it, plus he is hugely talented. I like the guy, not as a person but as a cultural figure I think he's a hoot and is genuinely trying to make the world a more interesting place and is trying to make his mark in history.
 
He has done a lot for changing social attitudes as well. He championed gay rights and in the 1990s it would have been unthinkable for the worlds biggest Hip Hop star to have a male to female transgender person in their entourage.

All credit to him. I believe he's bisexual (at the very least), so I'm not surprised that he's open-minded and enlightened about these matters.
 
I don't think they're comparable whatsoever. Kanye may have his detractors but over his career he's made some genuinely good music IMO, the Kardashians have done absolutely nothing worthy in any respect of the word.
I dunno, I'd rather see Kim's film on a loop than listen to 5 mins of Kanye's crap. They all deserve each other.
 
All credit to him. I believe he's bisexual (at the very least), so I'm not surprised that he's open-minded and enlightened about these matters.
What does 'bisexual at the very least' mean?
 
Not sure what he's doing at this point...



He tweeted that it's Chance The Rapper's fault for the delay because Chance was fighting to get 'Waves' back in the album after Kanye dropped it

Soon after they've changed the track list again and it looks like No More Parties in LA is also back on it.

The picture is just him parodying himself and all the memes that's followed

Seems like his fans on KTT and the general consensus on Twitter is that most people are fed up and losing interest by the hour
 
I just want the album. In a way, I enjoy all this stuff going on around the album because it's so bizarre, but I'd rather just have the album at this stage.
 
What does 'bisexual at the very least' mean?

I mean I believe he's gay but his relationships with women argue that he's straight.