Wouldn’t mind getting him in then sending him on loan to a PL club. Can’t be having him as a marquee signing to go straight into the first team. Don’t trust the Dutch league anymore.
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Has nothing to do with Depay folks.
Kluivert is faster and much more agile.
Kluivert is faster and much more agile.
Pace is something we lack
This. Dutch footie isn't what it used to be. Hope they figure that shit out real quick again. No excuse for why Belgium for instance has suddenly completely left them in the dust in developing youth talent that can perform at the highest levels.
Would prefer to give Tahith Chong who was ahead of him in the Dutch underage teams and actually suits what we need more at the moment a chance before even thinking about signing Kluivert
We just have a poor generation, whilst Belgium has an exceptional one, this stuff happens. It’s not like we suddenly forgot how to develop young players. Belgian club football is at least as shite as Dutch club football. They just have an insane amount of talent at the moment.
They should capitalize on that soon though, because for all their big talk they’ve yet to even reach the semi’s at a tournament.
What I like about him is that he dribbles with his head up, and often passes if a player is in a better position.
Would like to see him here for competition with Martial on the left wing. Looks like a special talent.
Justin looks like Sterling 2.0... He's much more explosive than Martial and Rashford. For 10-15m, he would be definitely be an upgrade on what we have at the moment. He would offer more than Malcom whose also been linked with us.
Exceptionally talented young player that is exciting to watch. Two footed with fantastic close control and good acceleration. If we can strike a deal with Ajax we really shouldn't hesitate. Kluivert fits the profile of player we should be targeting for the long term.
His pace looks decent but as stated he looks quick in Holland which is a slow league. His feet don't look anything special to be honest.
Maybe he just needs a pedicure.
What do you mean his feet don't look anything special?
Googled it but very difficult to tell with the boots on. Look pretty standard to me.
He has the obligatory 5 toes on each foot.
We really need someone with at least 6-7 toes. If he had 3 feet, he'd have a yard of pace over anyone else
TIL having more toes mean you run faster.
His feet aren't especially quick in terms of beating defenders with skill. I just don't think his ceiling for development is very high.
I personally think he's got very quick feet. Very nimble and can go either side comfortably. Good acceleration and is technically brilliant for someone so young. He's still raw but his ceiling is very high imo.
Of all the things to criticise, his quickness of feet would be the last thing. Bizarre comment tbh.
I may be wrong. In fairness I hadn't heard of him til a few weeks ago.
Im still not really seeing it. If we were going for a kid from ajax to play on the right then personally I'd go for the brazilian kid david neres. He looks to have 'great feet' as controversial as that statement seems to be.
People talking about 10 - 15 million.. maybe next summer, no chance this winter I think.
And that's only if he doesn't sign an extension, in which case it'd be much more as Ajax don't need to sell at all. They reject 50 million for Dolberg last summer from Monaco.
And that's only if he doesn't sign an extension, in which case it'd be much more as Ajax don't need to sell at all. They reject 50 million for Dolberg last summer from Monaco.
Absolutely nowhere near good enough for us. Nice talent, but has to take huge steps before he is anywhere near Premier League level.
Would be a joke of a signing atm. Currently doing recent from the left, but weaker from the right. We dont need anyone for the left, unless it is absolute class.
Would be a joke of a signing atm. Currently doing recent from the left, but weaker from the right. We dont need anyone for the left, unless it is absolute class.
I've seen a few people compare this guy to Memphis, but then go on to recommend Neres. The latter looks far more like Memphis than Kluivert. I am generally quite dismissive of some of these Dutch players but I think there's something about Kluivert.
I think his style and his strengths will transfer well to other leagues and would be difficult for any defender to deal with. The thing with him is that he does things when running at speed. You don't need a 100% success rate as a winger, but you will give yourself a good chance if you can do things at speed.
I think his style and his strengths will transfer well to other leagues and would be difficult for any defender to deal with. The thing with him is that he does things when running at speed. You don't need a 100% success rate as a winger, but you will give yourself a good chance if you can do things at speed.
If we were willing to allow Martial more time in the middle, where he wants to be, then sighting somebody of Kluiverts profile wouldn't be too bad. I also think he can improve on the right. What he does on the left is harder to do as a winger.
This is absurd. Neres is a faster, inventive player, with amazing balance and dribbling that can operate in tight spaces with goals and assists. Has absolutely nothing to do with Depay. What are you talking about?
Kluivert is an exceptional prospect and people will see that with time. You dont need to fabricate a false image of Neres to make Kluivert look good. Both are excellent young players.
It would be very bad in my opinion. He scored a nice hattrick against the weakest side in the Eredivisie, which ups his stats to something nice looking. He is very average in most games and that is only in the Eredivisie, which is a very weak league. I can asure you that, as it is our national league and I see plenty of it. You also have to keep in mind that he plays for a club that dominates most games and it is far easier to just focus on attacking there than it will ever be in the Premier League.
He would offer us absolutely nothing at this time and signing a youngster like this while we have Rashford and Martial playing from the left, Lingard also as an option and with upcoming talents like Chong would be utterly useless if you ask me. If we would shift Martial to the center, he should be replaced by someone who actually can make a direct impact instead of hoping a youngster from a small league will do wonders. Hell, we might as well get Januzaj back to United then as well.
Neres and Memphis are alike in the fact that they both produce great goal / assist numbers even when playing poorly. The last few weeks Neres' overall play has improved, but the comparison with Memphis isn't that much of a long shot.
Also Memphis had shown much much MUCH more in the Dutch league than Neres has so far, so I don't get the outrage.
2 completely different players.
If you want to compare Neres to a player it would be combination of Neymar (not nearly as good, but yes.) and Suarez (tends to get the ball past players when you expect him to lose control).
Rookie mistake. "Average in most games" should be " unstable/young".
This is exactly the way Uniteds scouting works and why United always has to play top dollar. No time to grow up and be a player that performs consistently. No, he's not the end product yet. But he's showing amazing potential.
Neres, Memphis, Kluivert. Half of the posters in this thread definitely have no clue. Few are agreeing with the other's opinions.
I agree that he's a bit like Neymar in the sense that he does fancy tricks (like that awesome move a few weeks ago) to beat players, but he's like Memphis in the sense that he's a goal scoring wide forward, much more than a traditional winger, which is something Kluivert is in my opinion.
I don't really like comparing players to others to be honest, but if I have to chose I think Neres is more like Memphis than like Kluivert. All this talk of Neres being exceptional this and exceptional that and people being outraged about comparing him to Memphis who is supposedly shite is idiotic, because Memphis has shown much more in Holland than Neres has so far.
How is it absurd to say one has a more similar style to Memphis than the other. I can draw more parallels between Neres and Memphis than Kluivert and Memphis, and I only mentioned this because a few just seemed to throw Kluivert into the Memphis bracket.
Basically I think you've completely missed my point.
If Neres signed for Shakhtar Donetsk last winter would anyone be comparing him to Memphis?
comparing Neres to Depay is absurd. not because Memphis was some terrible footballer in Holland who was doomed to fail or anything, but simply because they're not alike.
Memphis takes speculative shots from literally anywhere, and has a good shot which especially in Holland resulted in goals
Neres nearly only takes shots when he gets into extremely promising situations, which is where his goals come from
In that sense, Kluivert is more like Depay, as he too cuts onto his right and will let fly more often.
Neres is a very unselfish player, great in the combination and in the small spaces, all unlike Memphis.
Kluivert relies more on bursts of speed and is more selfish, more like Memphis.
What Kluivert has over Memphis is that his bursts of speed are a faster and he's a lot more nimble, which is something Depay lost even more when he bulked up too much (after his injury?)
Kluivert also has more of Memphis' arrogance whereas from what I read, Neres is extremely humble and grateful.
Also Neres takes good decisions on and off the ball most of the time, where Kluivert and Memphis aren't as consistent in their decisions.
Memphis takes speculative shots from literally anywhere, and has a good shot which especially in Holland resulted in goals
Neres nearly only takes shots when he gets into extremely promising situations, which is where his goals come from
In that sense, Kluivert is more like Depay, as he too cuts onto his right and will let fly more often.
Neres is a very unselfish player, great in the combination and in the small spaces, all unlike Memphis.
Kluivert relies more on bursts of speed and is more selfish, more like Memphis.
What Kluivert has over Memphis is that his bursts of speed are a faster and he's a lot more nimble, which is something Depay lost even more when he bulked up too much (after his injury?)
Kluivert also has more of Memphis' arrogance whereas from what I read, Neres is extremely humble and grateful.
Also Neres takes good decisions on and off the ball most of the time, where Kluivert and Memphis aren't as consistent in their decisions.
I'd put money on neres developing into a better player. He just looks more talented to me.
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