Do you have any contribution to make other than being a pathetic WUM ? Thought not - that's your level.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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I made my contribution before you came into the discussion but some other scouser wasnt happy with what I said abd got shirty so I started taking the piss and he stopped but youve come in now. That alright with you? Go back to my original comment and dont just read half the thread.
Which Liverpool youth/reserve players will Klopp have his eye on?
There's a lot of buzz around here about Ben Woodburn, how's he doing? Harry Wilson is a little older but I'm holding out hope on him too for the national team.
There's a lot of buzz around here about Ben Woodburn, how's he doing? Harry Wilson is a little older but I'm holding out hope on him too for the national team.
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So then can we apply the same logic to United's results, or Arsenal's, or even City's?
United have beaten Hull and Bournemouth which by using your logic counts as rubbish opposition. You've also beaten Southampton who have a new manager (the same as Chelsea), and the other victory was against Leicester who you've already written off as an easy game or playing a good side at a good time.
If we apply your logic then you can point to anyone's results so far and find excuses for them.
@Rafateria
Ok yous have had a good start to the season, that doesnt make you contenders to win it with 31 games to go. You have a thin squad, a good manager but not a single winner in your team. None of your players have ever won anything. Not exactly proof that yous have thr capability to win the league and you know that. Liverpool fans are coming on here and questioning our players whove won all sorts amongst them. But we're called mad for saying that Liverpool wont be contenders. Makes no sense at all.
Ok yous have had a good start to the season, that doesnt make you contenders to win it with 31 games to go. You have a thin squad, a good manager but not a single winner in your team. None of your players have ever won anything. Not exactly proof that yous have thr capability to win the league and you know that. Liverpool fans are coming on here and questioning our players whove won all sorts amongst them. But we're called mad for saying that Liverpool wont be contenders. Makes no sense at all.
Milner has won the premiership, and I'm sure their players have won trophies abroad. It's an overrated argument though, Leicester won the title last season with Albrighton. "Proven winners" doesn't mean much, give me talent and tactics any day.
With all greatest respect every team or most teams at some point had no winners . Its a collective effort to become winners. I can list teams going back to the 1970s as examples .
I and a few others have stated in this thread that we dont think we will win the league. I cant be arsed trawling through the thread mate but can you tell me who has ?
Ta la.
Forest
Villa
Everton
Arsenal
United
There is just a few teams with no winners that became winners.
Villa
Everton
Arsenal
United
There is just a few teams with no winners that became winners.
Can is a Champions League winner 
Still think Burnley bit of a freak result, imo. Might be concerned they conceded despite oppo not having much play. Small bad patches at Chelsea & Spurs. Points are on the board, extra 2-3pts considering the fixtures & how they might pan out for others (City for example). Scoring freely enough, Milner was very good at LB at Swansea. Control of the ball for a lot of the time.
I can see why they are pretty happy.
Only downside might be that there are still signs the defence can look iffy, even at Swansea. And the endless supply of fecking penalties might dry up at some stage. It's like the 19 sodding 80s at the moment,.
I can see why they are pretty happy.
Only downside might be that there are still signs the defence can look iffy, even at Swansea. And the endless supply of fecking penalties might dry up at some stage. It's like the 19 sodding 80s at the moment,
.Well, yeah. I've not claimed otherwise. United haven't won a game you wouldn't expect them to win, and have had two extremely disappointing results in the Stoke and Watford games. The only real test should have been the City game, and even then I think we should have been coming away with at least a point, if not all three.
Arsenal will be disappointed to have dropped points against yourselves and Leicester, but the rest has been largely run of the mill, including Chelsea, who, as we've discussed, haven't got going properly.
City will be chuffed to have come away from Old Trafford with the points, but may have been lucky to play us during the Rooney saga, with a proper first xi not identified, and as our first proper test. They will be disappointed by the Spurs result, but may count themselves as a bit unlucky to have caught Spurs in the midst of a run of good form. Likewise, Spurs may have been a bit lucky that City came to them off the back of a disappointing draw at Celtic.
Chelsea were doing well when we played them and had 10 points from 4 games, including Watford away who beat you lot. Their home record is pretty impressive too so it's a bit daft to say they hadn't got going.
City were deserved winners against United, if I recall they could have been out of sight by half time.
There are no easy games in the league, results prove that. The problem is you won't give us credit but prefer to look elsewhere for explanations.
There will always be a good time to play teams depending on the fixtures but by any reasonable argument 7 points away at the 3 big London teams is a good haul - irrespestive of when the games were played and who supposedly hadn't got going.
As has already been stated against Arsenal we hardly had our first choice eleven playing either.
Woodburn looks like a real prospect, a good goal scorer who is doing well in the under 23's. Wilson is captain and so far having a good season too.
Sheyi Ojo is the one who stands out as a potential player for the cup games/squads but has been injured recently.
Trent Alexander-Arnold, and Pedro Chirivella may feature in the league cup also maybe.
Overall results have been mixed so far so I guess it's hard to say who will make the grade.
Well if you're judging everyone like that then fair enough.
I think it's a bit harsh on the winning side though.
You shouldn't even bother replying to him. We could beat Barcelona 0-3 at Camp Nou this weekend and he'd say it means feck all because they lost to Celta de Vigo last week.
I've not denied it's a good haul. The point remains thought that the fixtures could have been tougher for the reasons I've already outlined countless times. Of course there are always going to be opportune and inopportune moments to play teams, and you've been lucky to get your London away fixtures done and dusted at opportune moments. You can't just discount the luck involved because it's likely to happen to other teams at other points in the season.
Chelsea still haven't got going so I have no idea what you're on about there. They drew with a shit Swansea team the week before playing you, lost to you, and got turned over by Arsenal the other week ffs. Likewise, United haven't got going other, as evidenced by the Watford and Stoke results.
City edged it but they weren't very clinical and hadn't actually created a great deal to test De Gea. As it was, their first goal was from a long ball and some bad defending, and their second from their only proper good move in the first half, and even then it was from a rebound off the post.
As I said, the Burnley result aside, you've beaten what's been put in front of you for the most part. However, what's been put in front of you could have been in better shape in some cases.
Edit: Also, what has Chelsea beating Watford got to do with anything? Watford are shite and we should have beaten them, and losing to them was nothing other than hugely disappointing. If your marker for good results is "we beat the team that beat that team that beat Man United when Man United should have won" then you've got issues.
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You have to judge them harshly when you're talking about teams at the top end of the table because that's how you separate them. You don't get prizes for doing well, but not quite as well as another team.
Chance would be a fine thing for both of our teams, eh?
Had you turned over Chelsea 3-0 at the Bridge rather than hanging on desperately for a 2-1 after being 2-0 up it'd have been far more impressive.
You make it sound as though some higher intelligence or mystical power is at hand here.
Maybe you are right. I've changed my mind.
It's our season la .
I do get your points but what do you want me to do about it ?
Chelsea were unbeaten in the league when we played them and generally regarded as a very difficult proposition (as their record proves) at Stamford Bridge.
I don't get the hadn't got going yet at all - even if true so what?
Any team who wins there it's a great result - how hard is that to grasp?
You make it sound as though some higher intelligence or mystical power is at hand here.
Maybe you are right. I've changed my mind.
It's our season la .
I do get your points but what do you want me to do about it ?
Just avoid making out that your start has been anything other than sightly better than expected at best and you'll be grand
Just landed at the airport and this thread has turned to gold. 
Don't care about the post but thumbs up for the blackadder reference name.
How can you forget the great Leicester?!
Chelsea were hilariously overrated though. Scoring last minute goals with a player who shouldn't have been on the pitch.
It's almost as if Chelsea have now been judged by their season as a whole so far and their actual performances and not what people thought they could be a few games in. Shocker!
People were just giving Conte and Chelsea the title of league contenders, it was baffling.
Almost like what people are doing re: 'Pool now?
Just avoid making out that your start has been anything other than sightly better than expected at best and you'll be grand
It has surpassed all expectations so feck off.
Two things.
A lot of Cafites said we'd be by the relegation after four games.
Would you be happy with our points tally after the same fixtures ?
Okayyy then...
Not thinking Liverpool are contenders makes no sense at all. Not having won anything didn't stop Leicester last year did it. No European football is such an unbelievable advantage considering the way Liverpool play, they have a number of different players contributing goals unlike the Suarez years and the players clearly love playing for Klopp. The market has them as second favs and that seems right to me.
There is a balance though, and most on here would have had Chelsea down for top 4 as a minimum.
There are always good and bad times to play certain teams - but that should not deflect the fact that 3 points there for anyone is a terrific result. The comments that they hadn't got going yet are a bit daft to be honest and just a reason not to give us any credit.
Why bother yourself with replying? All he is doing is repeating himself over and over. At the start of the season City were going to win it Man Utd second Chelsea third Arsenal/Spurs fourth and we were going to roll in around 10th I think that's what most had down as. I am just enjoying the now, who knows where any of us will end up come the end of the season. Just enjoy the moment while we are playing some great football and having success with it and others aren't and the others just can't handle it (well some of them)
Fair point and that's a good rule to have on here. Except @cyberman I think is good poster and that was my latest reply, but yes some of the others need to just ignore from now.
Thankfully there is a facility to do just that on here.
Jeez. Talk about delusional. That tells you all you need to know about Alex and his game assessment intelligence.
I'm done with reading any more posts from him (well to be honest they are so long-winded I skip over the bulk) and Green Pea or whatever he's called. Pure Wummery or simply a lack of intelligent debate. Call it what you will.
You think that it's unreasonable for a team expected to challenge for the title to target 3 points from a home game, regardless of opposition?
meanwhile, in the real world...
You also think it's daft to expect three points from a home match?
This thread is fun isn't it! We've had a good start and taken points from teams that are going to be difficult to take points from no matter when you play them.
That said, it's only a start and nothing more which is pretty much what every Liverpool fan I know is saying. Any team with the points we have from the fixtures we've had would be happy so yes, I'm happy with it. Does it mean we'll win the league? In short, no! We have however, given ourselves a good opportunity to get towards the top four places at the end of the season
That said, it's only a start and nothing more which is pretty much what every Liverpool fan I know is saying. Any team with the points we have from the fixtures we've had would be happy so yes, I'm happy with it. Does it mean we'll win the league? In short, no! We have however, given ourselves a good opportunity to get towards the top four places at the end of the season
Yeah, must be wonderful to support a big club that's never had to endure the pain & misery of going over a quarter of a century without a league title.
You really must tell us what it's like sometime.
No he can't.
They will never win it again.
They will never win it again.