Any other manager would be sacked after such a car crash run of results but Klopp understandably has a lot of credit in the bank. I think he can get them back on track with some serious investment in the summer providing Pool are sold by then.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Hopefully the midfielders he buys are the same quality as the attackers he’s bought
That's why I said 'definitely better'. ETH is most certainly potentially better, and I would not take Klopp over him, but as it stands ETH still has more prove than Klopp so we can't say he's definitely better yet, and there doesn't seem to be another ETH out there in world football right now, does there?
Not that they will bin Klopp, but Tuchel and Pochettino are still unemployed, right?
Klopp is a better manager than both of them though. I really think their squad is just completely spent and past it, they need massive investment.
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I find it mildly amusing that the worse his team becomes the more manicured his own appearance gets. He just needs to bring back the shit hair and teeth
This would be my concern. Poch not so much but I certainly wouldn’t want the cnuts to end up with Tuchel after Klopp. He’s too good a manager and would get them back on track, we need the next appointment after Klopp to be a shite one to really let the rot set in.
At the same time, I don't think your assessments are correct by using Rangnick and last season to somehow make the current Liverpool situation the same as those. For one, it's not just clout or hype that Klopp has. He's a really good manager, something Rangnick could not call himself. Not just a good manager, but an elite one. It's based on actual evidence.
Two, are you certain they have to get rid of Klopp? Meaning, that just because it's Klopp's fault he's not getting through to them anymore, and that they still are footballers capable of the level they have been at for years, does that still mean you get rid of Klopp? Or are they not also to blame for not being able to keep up their performances at the standard they were at for years? If they are no longer listening to Klopp and that Klopp's messaging is no longer getting through to them, don't you think they're replaceable?
I think he's only replaceable if he's gone completely rogue, meaning the way he gives messages or the messages he gives are both crap. However, if he's still doing the same as he did initially, but the players are no longer responding that still means newer players who have never heard his instructions or messaging can still be part of the rebuild.
To me, I still think that them getting rid of Klopp would be their biggest mistake. I don't think anyone they get will be better than him, and that squad is going to need to be rebuilt even if you get rid of him. On the other hand, players are replaceable.
The evidence to not trust him on a rebuild is 2 seasons with Mainz (relegation, and then failure to get them up), and one season in 7th place at Dortmund. I still think there is sufficient doubt in that conclusion to still think he can rebuild if given longer than 2 bad seasons. I at least would be willing to give him another season after this season to right the wrongs.
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It's the look that scared the shit out of players to do what he asked no matter what.
Lost his mojo.
The issue by persisting him for more than a season like this is the gap with the teams above will keep on increasing. It's not 2015 where Klopp was able to get into the top 4 easily. He needs a major rebuild. Salah looks lost, Firminho is past it, VVD is not the same VVD like 3 years ago, Thiago has been underwhelming, then their new signings so far don't look to be that good. Klopp would need to spend close to £200m on 3 or 4 quality players to get back on track. Maybe new owners will make them strong but there is no guarantee.
I won't sack Klopp but if they have another poor start to next season then he is surely done here.
I don’t think there’ll be a next season for Klopp
He needs to ban snoods, that will solve it.
The original point I was responding to was about how Liverpool are getting less criticism than what United have had when they’ve been struggling. Some of that comes from how much United have spent vs how little success you’ve had over the last decade. The expectation is always high when you spend a lot. Look at Chelsea now. If you spend a lot of money and don’t succeed, you’re more likely to get a fair share of criticism. It’s why Nunez has drawn more attention than if we’d spent half that on someone and had less output.
By comparison, up until recently Liverpool’s spending has been largely successful under Klopp and as recently as last season we were challenging for the league. That’s a reason why we’re getting more leeway in the press than United have had over recent years.
There’s plenty of criticism out there for Klopp and Liverpool though, and deservedly so this season.
Amazing thing is, they've won 2 fecking major trophies in this so called 'era of dominance under Klopp'. Clown club
Bizarre that they spent money on Gakpo instead of investing in that shite midfield of theirs.
He's fecking losing it . It's been awhile
. It's been awhileIs he not going to thump his chest at his team now the useless Cnut?
The best wet dream other than United returning to the summit as was under Ferguson (with more success in Europe) is to see the scouse scum get relegated.
I heard that Steven Gerrard is still looking a job, perhaps he is the perfect replacement for Klopp
I think Pep got it spot on in his recent interview about keeping a team fresh and hungry.
You have to swap players out with new ones who were just as hungry as the last person was when they signed. Not every one is like Ronaldo, you can't maintain that same level of drive for year after year, you need a new challenge sometimes.
A few of the LFC players should have been sold on + the clubs transfers have been really poor recently.
You have to swap players out with new ones who were just as hungry as the last person was when they signed. Not every one is like Ronaldo, you can't maintain that same level of drive for year after year, you need a new challenge sometimes.
A few of the LFC players should have been sold on + the clubs transfers have been really poor recently.
But that will be true regardless if he's gone or not. Who can they replace him with that will be as good?
There are plenty of Champions League winning managers in the market who'd love to coach Liverpool. Rafa for example. Gerrard as well.
Tuchel succeeded Klopp both at Mainz and Dortmund and is the most logical choice. Pochettino is available also. In the summer there will be more managers available too. What about Zidane?! He will be not the first Frenchman to manage Liverpool, after all..
Tuchel is probably the most reasonable answer. Poch is nowhere near Klopp’s class as a manager. Zidane seems unlikely as he doesn’t seem interested in managing any club so I usually leave him out of these discussions.
This is what I mean. With the options on offer, if I was the one making the call, I would back Klopp to try to turn this around rather than gambling on someone else.
It’s easy for someone like Pep to say that when money is no object. While the squad does need to be continually refreshed, it’s their job as a manager to keep them motivated and striving for success. 99% of clubs can’t afford to buy a new front or back line every couple of years.
There seems to be an idea that Liverpool haven’t invested in their team or Klopp hasn’t been backed. He certainly has. Van Dyke, Alison and Nunez are just 3 examples. He’s been giving loads of attackers too, Jota, Diaz, Nunez and Gapko all been bought in last two years. He’s done superb as their manager but having Thiago, Kieta, Henderson as their midfield options just doesn’t cut it.
He has actually spent over 700m pounds. Myth is right.
I think if he could change it as in have his message get through to the players he already would have.
Let’s say they back Klopp. Klopp goes out and spends 500m on a new team (even that isn’t enough imo) it’s my opinion that this team isn’t as bad as it’s producing on the pitch. A Tuchel could come in and get a better tune out of the players and cut that budget in half or even more. There would be no need to sell players who are still good but are underperforming enough simply because the manager has been there too long and his ra ra speeches don’t resonate anymore.
Nobody said they needed a major re- build a few months ago.l.
Nunez and Gakpo are his signings. He wanted more control over transfers before signing his last contract and completely ignore the midfield. His spent nearly 200m on attackers over the last 12 months alone.
Klopp is getting away with it in the media at the minute
Can see him being in dodgy waters if we beat them at Anfield but our record there is as bad as our early kickoff record… 
Didn’t Dortmund implode like this after a few years under Klopp?
That would be glorious.
Would set the rest of the decade up nicely: us challenging for titles under EtH while they languish in mediocrity with Slippy G at the helm.
Spent time in the relegation zone after 7 years before getting sacked, the same amount of time he's done at Liverpool.
They’re not that stupid though. They will probably go for another German in Tuchel, depends if his style of play will suit them though… can’t imagine Liverpool playing a back 3 even though Tuchel does sometimes play a back 4. Can’t see them going for pochettino.
He got sacked? I thought he walked. Doesn’t he usually walk after the 6th year?
Ye I think that will definitely turn the fans against him and the team. You’ll never have a better chance of winning there than this season. I mean a few teams have rocked up there and took all 3 points this season. Kick them while they’re down!Can see him being in dodgy waters if we beat them at Anfield but our record there is as bad as our early kickoff record…
Yes you are right he walked, I forgot. He was under big pressure at the time because they were so bad.
Can see him walking again if this form carries on. Don’t see how this improves and even next season they’ll struggle to attract the players they want.
Give it Gerrard end of season