They are essentially the same team as last season. Mane is the only good bit of business, but he even blows hot and cold.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Hmm, maybe wait and see how it finishes before deciding to sack him?
2-4 Liverpool wouldn't shock me at 90 minutes.
2-4 Liverpool wouldn't shock me at 90 minutes.
Agree with this, we of all fans should know how different a second half can be.
Klopp is a defensive coaching genius on the same level as Martinez.
Doesn't look all that different so far.
What a difference a few weeks can make.
I disagree, I think Klopp has brought some passion and believe into the Liverpool players again. His signing do seem a bit strange but he's putting his own stamp on the game so remains to be seen in that department. I do agree about their defence though. They need a top quality defender which they don't have. Personally I like Klopp and rate him highly. It remains to be seen if he can turn Liverpool round though
Which I agree with to an extent. But you do what you can with what you got first. You look at the players, where they are strong and where they are weak. Individually and as a unit. Collectively, Lallana/Firmy/Coutinho are fantastic against the likes of Utd, Arsenal or Barcelona. But against the likes of Southampton, Burnley, etc, they are the worst unit of football you will ever see. Then to partner them with Sturridge who is a nothing player (think Rooney last season, then think 10x worse). We (well not the other Pool fans on this forum but me certainly) could see this. Saw it last season, saw it preseason, seeing it now.
AND THEN...you look at the transfer window. Once you've got your house in order. Klopp can buy a 100 £100m players but if he is blind to the above then what's the point?
Edit: yes Klavan, Lovren and Hendo have been shit poor today. But I'm looking at where we are strongest...our forwards (Origi on the bench, etc). There Klopp could make educated decisions. There we can judge him. I have judged him. He's not as good a manager as I thought.
Edit: Edit: I'm fairly confident we'll beat Spurs. And end with 6 points from 9. But the way it will been done is not my idea of a top 4 finishing side.
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As the RAWK alternative league table insists - these are the games that really matter. Not the wins versus the big sides away.
Will he make them hold hands at full time?
Hehehe.
The charlatan shown up again.
The charlatan shown up again.
Gets a rise for the odd game here and there and it masks some people to the fact that he's been worse than Rodgers. No consistency against smaller teams.
That was as comfortable a home win as it gets for Burnley.
That was as comfortable a home win as it gets for Burnley.
Where was the gegenpress ? they got outplayed
Which I agree with to an extent. But you do what you can with what you got first. You look at the players, where they are strong and where they are weak. Individually and as a unit. Collectively, Lallana/Firmy/Coutinho are fantastic against the likes of Utd, Arsenal or Barcelona. But against the likes of Southampton, Burnley, etc, they are the worst unit of football you will ever see. Then to partner them with Sturridge who is a nothing player (think Rooney last season, then think 10x worse). We (well not the other Pool fans on this forum but me certainly) could see this. Saw it last season, saw it preseason, seeing it now.
AND THEN...you look at the transfer window. Once you've got your house in order. Klopp can buy a 100 £100m players but if he is blind to the above then what's the point?
Edit: yes Klavan, Lovren and Hendo have been shit poor today. But I'm looking at where we are strongest...our forwards (Origi on the bench, etc). There Klopp could make educated decisions. There we can judge him. I have judged him. He's not as good a manager as I thought.
Whats the story with Matip?
Brian Kerr was on a radio commentary fro Today FM and he was saying how he was shocked Liverpool signed Klavan. He came across him when he was Faroe Islands manager. Picked him out at the week link in the build up to a game V Estonia and they pulled off a 2-0 victory.
It was unusually comfortable for Burnley.
Nothing really changed (tactics/strategy) throughout the match which is definitely a criticism on Klopp's part.
Jurgen Flopp doing what he does best
Matip is shit.
Which I agree with to an extent. But you do what you can with what you got first. You look at the players, where they are strong and where they are weak. Individually and as a unit. Collectively, Lallana/Firmy/Coutinho are fantastic against the likes of Utd, Arsenal or Barcelona. But against the likes of Southampton, Burnley, etc, they are the worst unit of football you will ever see. Then to partner them with Sturridge who is a nothing player (think Rooney last season, then think 10x worse). We (well not the other Pool fans on this forum but me certainly) could see this. Saw it last season, saw it preseason, seeing it now.
AND THEN...you look at the transfer window. Once you've got your house in order. Klopp can buy a 100 £100m players but if he is blind to the above then what's the point?
Edit: yes Klavan, Lovren and Hendo have been shit poor today. But I'm looking at where we are strongest...our forwards (Origi on the bench, etc). There Klopp could make educated decisions. There we can judge him. I have judged him. He's not as good a manager as I thought.
Edit: Edit: I'm fairly confident we'll beat Spurs. And end with 6 points from 9. But the way it will been done is not my idea of a top 4 finishing side.
Sturridge is an injury prone/heart size of a gnat type, but nothing player? Strange comment
Not sure why you'd be confident of beating Tottenham away. They've finished above you probably 5 out of the last 6 seasons now, 3rd last year etc
Would you have been surprised that a team that could lose to relegation favourites Burnley 2-0 would have beaten Arsenal the week before, with almost the same players?
If Spurs play expansive football...boom...we win. Play bus parked football and we're scatching our heads and picking our arses (and the ball out of our net). That doesn't mean we'll finish above Spurs this season.
he and his assistant had a wry smile on them around 90 min mark. Must see progress
If Spurs play their best or even close to their best then your defense will be destroyed. Milner at left back, Mignolet as goalkeeper, Klavan as center back
I guess you can say it was gegen(de)pressing today
Joe Allen was sold to Stoke without being told by his manager. Disgraceful way to treat the Welsh Xavi
"I actually had a text message off a friend congratulating me about making the move when I didn't even know it was happening at the time.
"Not knowing whether the club intend to sell you or keep you, especially when you're trying to ask the question, is disappointing.
"If I'm honest, to find out they accepted an offer through the press isn't the best way of going about business, I don't think," Allen added.
"The communication wasn't great but as soon as Liverpool accepted an offer I knew what their intentions were for me. It was a bit strange but that's how things happen sometimes.
"There was no real goodbye, but I'm not the most sentimental person anyway. It's irrelevant now because sitting here I've got the move I wanted."
"I actually had a text message off a friend congratulating me about making the move when I didn't even know it was happening at the time.
"Not knowing whether the club intend to sell you or keep you, especially when you're trying to ask the question, is disappointing.
"If I'm honest, to find out they accepted an offer through the press isn't the best way of going about business, I don't think," Allen added.
"The communication wasn't great but as soon as Liverpool accepted an offer I knew what their intentions were for me. It was a bit strange but that's how things happen sometimes.
"There was no real goodbye, but I'm not the most sentimental person anyway. It's irrelevant now because sitting here I've got the move I wanted."
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Called it. Although not 4-0, it was still an embarrassing defeat.
The Arsenal game was unusual though, as they were without all their main centre backs, Ozil and Giroud, and they often aren't prepared for the 1st game. You got them at the perfect time.
Burnley are just classic hard work limited ability journeyman fare. Must be disappointing to lose to that.
Joe Allen was sold to Stoke without being told by his manager. Disgraceful way to treat the Welsh Xavi
"I actually had a text message off a friend congratulating me about making the move when I didn't even know it was happening at the time.
"Not knowing whether the club intend to sell you or keep you, especially when you're trying to ask the question, is disappointing.
"If I'm honest, to find out they accepted an offer through the press isn't the best way of going about business, I don't think," Allen added.
"The communication wasn't great but as soon as Liverpool accepted an offer I knew what their intentions were for me. It was a bit strange but that's how things happen sometimes.
"There was no real goodbye, but I'm not the most sentimental person anyway. It's irrelevant now because sitting here I've got the move I wanted."
Unsurprisingly lack of class from Liverpool and Klopp again. What's new?
If Spurs play their best or even close to their best then your defense will be destroyed. Milner at left back, Mignolet as goalkeeper, Klavan as center back
We had the same defence but with the added spinkle of Morono against Sanchez/Walcott/et al. We conceded as usual but we won.
Never get why they opt to take ridiculous amounts of shots from way outside the box, especially when opposition defences are penetrable with the players they have.
We can't all have classy managers like Mourinho. Someone who nobody has ever called a cnut on more than one occasion on these forums in my 15 years on here. Do you live in a glass house Akash? I'd move.
He's a flop when they lose, and a genius when they win?
This place sometimes...
This place sometimes...
It's the coutinho disease.
They were lacking a proper striker Arsenal. Walcott is crap.
It won't be easy against Harry Kane.
He still havent got rid of Mignolet?
Liverpool Football club. Different to the other clubs who sold their soul etcJoe Allen was sold to Stoke without being told by his manager. Disgraceful way to treat the Welsh Xavi
"I actually had a text message off a friend congratulating me about making the move when I didn't even know it was happening at the time.
"Not knowing whether the club intend to sell you or keep you, especially when you're trying to ask the question, is disappointing.
"If I'm honest, to find out they accepted an offer through the press isn't the best way of going about business, I don't think," Allen added.
"The communication wasn't great but as soon as Liverpool accepted an offer I knew what their intentions were for me. It was a bit strange but that's how things happen sometimes.
"There was no real goodbye, but I'm not the most sentimental person anyway. It's irrelevant now because sitting here I've got the move I wanted."
Because players like Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana aren't actually that good so have to resort to plan A. All three of them lack express pace, which means defenders can set their stalls out and even play a high line defence with two banks of four. Mane bucks that trend but it shouldn't all be about Mane. Again, bad management.
He will be auditioned at left back next week after Milner's turnHe still havent got rid of Mignolet?
Won a penalty and then scored. Yeah I hope Kane is as shit as that.
Sorry but what has mourinho or any other manager got to do with this specific instance of klopp being classless? Weird default response.
Anyway I think his biggest issue is being incapable of setting up a defence. Pretty important thing for a manager to know how to do
That's one way of looking at it.
Just ignore Arsenal's defence in that equation. Cherry picking.