Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

Keep on replying..............zzzz.

You literally are more concerned about LFC- source? Your "recent activity" :lol:

sad times!

anyway i have wasted enough time with you....you can take your UTD glasses off now + finish chatting to me.

thanks and good luck (again)

Liverpool fan posting on ManUtd forum saying Manutd fan is concerned about LFC, because he is replying to Liverpool fan. :lol:

Again shows how illogical your posts are. Clowns trying to defend a clown replies to my posts a lot, so obvious in which thread most of my recent posts are
 
It's no point talking to them @roonster09 they just don't get it.

Yeah, that much is very sure.

Clown Klopp talks about ManUtd, and when journalist asks about it and Jose replies, liverpool fans are like "why is he talking about Klopp and Liverpool". feck me, at least some common sense man.
 
Why is this a thing to argue about? That a person in football contradict himself? Most people in football are idiots, so why is this such a big deal?

Other Liverpool fans: Why is this such a big deal to defend? If this is an important thing for other fans to condemn, why do we need to defend this? Yes, it was a contradiction. Do we need to bring up all the contradiction that Mourinho has said in his career? Or other managers?
 
You know that it's not our money right?

I get a whole season of enjoyment and attractive football out of it. I wouldn't trade that for a season of dull football just to be happy once in May when we win a trophy.

That, to me, is really weird. I'm not a United fan so can't really comment on how it is following them over the course of a season but in general winning is everything. I could not care less about attractive football, I'm not an event fan. On the other hand I have a different perception to most on what 'attractive' football is anyway. If I had to pick a team to watch on the big stage, it'd probably be Atletico, certainly not Liverpool.
 
They never walk alone.

Unless your name is Loris Karius and it's the 10 or so minutes immediately following the 2018 Champions League final, in which case you are not just alone, but quite actively shunned.
 
What I often forget is that Brendon Rodgers actually enjoyed a period of "Success" in his Tenure at Anfield. He's unanimously viewed as a moron, but hear me out on this one. Although he did not win a trophy, he mounted a serious title challenge that ultimately fell short in 2013/2014. The team was filled with Gerrard, Suarez, prime Sturridge. Rodgers Liverpool was, for a time, a team to fear.

Klopp has now been in charge for a similar amount of time. He has been to cup finals but is yet to lift a trophy. Trophies are expected at Anfield, and Klopp was expected to end that drought. I think this season they will push City closer than we will, but they will not win it. They might have another good run in the CL, but again, they won't win it. The statistics back Brendan Rodgers as about equal with Klopp, at least thus far. In 122 Premier League matches Rodgers had 63 wins, 30, losses, and 29 draws. He accumulated 218 points with a 1.79 points per game average.

Klopp, in 127 games has accumulated 62 wins, 39 draws and 26 losses. Be mindful that this is also after Klopp put 411.55m million pounds into the team. So the two managers are, statistically comparable at this stage.

Then we come to his Final Record. It has now been six seasons since Liverpool last won a trophy and the defeat in the CL final sees this record continue for Jurgen. He has lost 3 (!) cup finals since his takeover, and has not won one himself since the German super cup back in 2012. While I can only speculate as to why he is so poor in finals, I believe it may be because das "heavy metal football ja" leaves his teams exposed in the big finals.

While i'm certainly not saying he's crap, he's not the god of football some make him out to be.
 
That, to me, is really weird. I'm not a United fan so can't really comment on how it is following them over the course of a season but in general winning is everything. I could not care less about attractive football, I'm not an event fan. On the other hand I have a different perception to most on what 'attractive' football is anyway. If I had to pick a team to watch on the big stage, it'd probably be Atletico, certainly not Liverpool.
People are different, I get your view and have no problems with that. I guess many Utd fans just have a different view because they won so much under SAF, but to me watching Liverpool has never been about winning because we've barely won anything since I got into it (which was during the '05 CL run), so basically one LC en one FA Cup.
 
It's all gone a bit Brenton. Must be something in the water over there.
This summer is definitely reminding me of 2014 when the whole Liverpool fanbase convinced themselves they were going to on to do great things under Brenton aka the new Bill Shankly.

 
People are different, I get your view and have no problems with that. I guess many Utd fans just have a different view because they won so much under SAF, but to me watching Liverpool has never been about winning because we've barely won anything since I got into it (which was during the '05 CL run), so basically one LC en one FA Cup.

So you like Liverpool before of style of play and started to follow them from Rafa time, something is missing here.
 
So you like Liverpool before of style of play and started to follow them from Rafa time, something is missing here.
I actually just casually "liked" them but often didn't even know their result before I decided to check them on Monday or so. I knew nothing of the title challenge of 08/09. I only got really into it during the 13/14 season, after which I signed up on here. Is this sufficient for you or should I give some more detailed insight before you'll stop your questioning?
 
What I often forget is that Brendon Rodgers actually enjoyed a period of "Success" in his Tenure at Anfield. He's unanimously viewed as a moron, but hear me out on this one. Although he did not win a trophy, he mounted a serious title challenge that ultimately fell short in 2013/2014. The team was filled with Gerrard, Suarez, prime Sturridge. Rodgers Liverpool was, for a time, a team to fear.

Klopp has now been in charge for a similar amount of time. He has been to cup finals but is yet to lift a trophy. Trophies are expected at Anfield, and Klopp was expected to end that drought. I think this season they will push City closer than we will, but they will not win it. They might have another good run in the CL, but again, they won't win it. The statistics back Brendan Rodgers as about equal with Klopp, at least thus far. In 122 Premier League matches Rodgers had 63 wins, 30, losses, and 29 draws. He accumulated 218 points with a 1.79 points per game average.

Klopp, in 127 games has accumulated 62 wins, 39 draws and 26 losses. Be mindful that this is also after Klopp put 411.55m million pounds into the team. So the two managers are, statistically comparable at this stage.

Then we come to his Final Record. It has now been six seasons since Liverpool last won a trophy and the defeat in the CL final sees this record continue for Jurgen. He has lost 3 (!) cup finals since his takeover, and has not won one himself since the German super cup back in 2012. While I can only speculate as to why he is so poor in finals, I believe it may be because das "heavy metal football ja" leaves his teams exposed in the big finals.

While i'm certainly not saying he's crap, he's not the god of football some make him out to be.
You can’t quote Klopp’s Premier League record against the amount he’s spent when four of those signings haven’t even kicked a ball yet. Van Dijk only has six months with the club as well.

The time to judge him against the amount of money he’s spent will be at the end of this season.
 
You know that it's not our money right?

I get a whole season of enjoyment and attractive football out of it. I wouldn't trade that for a season of dull football just to be happy once in May when we win a trophy.

Typical comment of Liverpool fans these days. So now that your club doesn't win trophies anymore its all about the entertainment factor. Give over.

I would rather be in United's position having won 2 trophies under Mourinho and 1 under Van Gaal than be in Liverpool's situation who last trophy was a League cup like 8 years ago. Any football fan would. You scraped 4th on the last day of the season. You got embarrassed in the FA cup and League cup. Then you got embarrassed in the Champions League final. 'But the ride was amazing'.

Liverpool are an entertaining team to watch and the neutral will agree, why? Because you still don't know which Liverpool will turn up. You batter City one week then lose to Swansea. You go 2-0 up against Arsenal, and cruising then draw the game. That's entertaining for a neutral but if I was a Liverpool fan it would infuriate me.
 
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You can’t quote Klopp’s Premier League record against the amount he’s spent when four of those signings haven’t even kicked a ball yet. Van Dijk only has six months with the club as well.

The time to judge him against the amount of money he’s spent will be at the end of this season.

Do you accept that after spending wildly in the transfer market, Klopp is expected to offer a genuine title challenge and/or deliver a trophy of significance?
 
Do you accept that after spending wildly in the transfer market, Klopp is expected to offer a genuine title challenge and/or deliver a trophy of significance?
Yes but I’m worried that you’re going to use me saying that as evidence that I said it’s our year.
 
I actually just casually "liked" them but often didn't even know their result before I decided to check them on Monday or so. I knew nothing of the title challenge of 08/09. I only got really into it during the 13/14 season, after which I signed up on here. Is this sufficient for you or should I give some more detailed insight before you'll stop your questioning?

Glory hunter then?

Oh wait...
 
I actually just casually "liked" them but often didn't even know their result before I decided to check them on Monday or so. I knew nothing of the title challenge of 08/09. I only got really into it during the 13/14 season, after which I signed up on here. Is this sufficient for you or should I give some more detailed insight before you'll stop your questioning?

So after arguing over some pointless quote Mourinho has said, you have now admitted to being a casual football supporter who prefers Liverpool. No wonder you don't get half the stuff that is being talked about.
 
Glory hunter then?

Oh wait...
I hope at least you thought that was funny yourself..?

So after arguing over some pointless quote Mourinho has said, you have now admitted to being a casual football supporter who prefers Liverpool. No wonder you don't get half the stuff that is being talked about.
Fecking hell you can't even read, can you? I 'admitted' (you write it as if it's something to be ashamed about ffs) I was a casual fan until 13/14. Oh and yes, of course I don't get half of the stuff, because history surely is something you can't learn or read about.

I'm actually pretty much done with this, because most of the people I'm replying to I can't even say what I think of them or I'd be banned, and that certainly includes you.
 
I have to ask, why do worry about what some random stranger on the internet says or thinks? Genuine question :)
I don’t worry about that, but I don’t want to fuel the false narrative that Liverpool fans say that every year.
 
He's spent over 400M and won nothing so far. It's a big season for himself and the club.

No trophies would mean a massive failure.

He's spent £237m and won nothing so far. The rest of the £400m haven't had a chance to kick a ball yet.
 
I hope at least you thought that was funny yourself..?


Fecking hell you can't even read, can you? I 'admitted' (you write it as if it's something to be ashamed about ffs) I was a casual fan until 13/14. Oh and yes, of course I don't get half of the stuff, because history surely is something you can't learn or read about.

I'm actually pretty much done with this, because most of the people I'm replying to I can't even say what I think of them or I'd be banned, and that certainly includes you.

:lol: I don't want you banned. I just read over all your comments and find your point defending Klopp and saying Jose shouldn't talk about Liverpool as rubbish. You're bound to get a hostile reaction on such matters on a United forum as a Liverpool fan.

And yes there is much more to United v Liverpool than you can read in history. I have an underlying hatred towards your club, same goes for many of our fans and it will be vice versa for a lot of Liverpool fans. I don't think you can development that if you started out as a casual fan.
 
Using gross spent is already questionable, but adding transfer fees for players that haven't even played a league match for players to judge results of the past really takes the cake of delusion.

Also that Emery guy, spent €80m but hasn't even won a single point yet. What a loser.

I don't think you could've reasonable expected them to win the PL with their previous spending, so it's wrong to blame Klopp for that. This season though things have changed he should at least put in a serious challenge.
 
Using gross spent is already questionable, but adding transfer fees for players that haven't even played a league match for players to judge results of the past really takes the cake of delusion.

Transfer market expenditure, whether that be Gross Spend or otherwise, is a perfectly legitimate barometer to measure the expectations of a football club. When Klopp increases his summer spending to levels beyond that of his nearest competitors, the expectations of his club rise along with it. How could you disagree with this?
 
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Transfer market expenditure, whether that be Gross Spend or otherwise, is a perfectly legitimate barometer to measure the expectations of a football club. When Klopp increases his summer spending beyond to levels beyond his nearest competitors, the expectations of his club rise along with it. How could you disagree with this?

Net spending is indeed a very relevant measure, but how is gross spending? If you have to sell an important player to buy a new one it's not the same as when a rival who buys similar quality with spare change?
 
I honestly don't care about how much Klopp has spent. I don't think that is the point really.

The point is, Liverpool has signed key players in area's they needed to. That alone should result in them improving this year? And seeing as they finished 4th, 6 points from 2nd the next logical step is challenging for the title. Compared to the rest of the teams around them, Liverpool has signed players to address the teams issues.

I don't think what Mourinho has said is wrong? Do Liverpool fans not want to / not think they now have a squad good enough to challenge City?
 
Net spending is indeed a very relevant measure, but how is gross spending? If you have to sell an important player to buy a new one it's not the same as when a rival who buys similar quality with spare change?

Wait, are you going down the Net Spend route?
 
So saying Liverpool should be challenging for league title is not same as saying Klopp should challenge?
It isn't, come on. Klopp ain't gonna win or lose or challenge for the league. Liverpool are. Klopp may play a big role or an insignificant role in their season, no matter the results. Avram Grant's Chelsea challenged for the title and everybody knew he didn't matter.

While I can only speculate as to why he is so poor in finals, I believe it may be because das "heavy metal football ja" leaves his teams exposed in the big finals.
Meh, 6 finals since 2013, 4 against Bayern, City and Madrid...
 
It isn't, come on. Klopp ain't gonna win or lose or challenge for the league. Liverpool are. Klopp may play a big role or an insignificant role in their season, no matter the results. Avram Grant's Chelsea challenged for the title and everybody knew he didn't matter.

I always knew SAF didn't win 13 PL titles, ManUtd did. What a weird argument.