Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

[EasyE]

Oh Dear, Oh Dear!

So Jurgen "Doesn't need to spend as much as Jose" Klopp, has now spent more than Mourinho, owns the worlds most expensive defender and could wrap up a deal for the worlds most expensive goal keeper.

For years blind Kloppites insisted he did things "The right way" and would "Focus on developing young players" at Dortmund and when he first came to LFC. It turns out he wasn't spending like Mourinho because.......He couldn't. Now he has some money burning a hole in his pocket he cant spend it quick enough

P.s Don't get me started Pep "The football purest who also doesn't need to spend large amounts of money to achieve things" Guardiola.

Go on son.

 

[Dumbstar]

Have they. Keita, Fabinho, Shaquiri, Allison and Fekir (if he signs) have played zero competitive games for Liverpool yet. They could all turn out to be bad buys. They could also be great, but my point is that they will be going into the new season bedding in a fair number of new players.

Plenty of united fans thought that Bailly, Zlatan, Pogba and Mikhi were going to turn us into title contenders that year. I was one of them. We finished outside the top four and drew about fifteen games.

Baily I was worried about but with Mourinho at the helm there was no way Pogba, Zlatan or Miki worried us non-Utd fans as much as you'd like to hope. Their legend always just existed in your minds, and still does.

 

[edgar allan]

Oh Dear, Oh Dear!

So Jurgen "Doesn't need to spend as much as Jose" Klopp, has now spent more than Mourinho, owns the worlds most expensive defender and could wrap up a deal for the worlds most expensive goal keeper.

For years blind Kloppites insisted he did things "The right way" and would "Focus on developing young players" at Dortmund and when he first came to LFC. It turns out he wasn't spending like Mourinho because.......He couldn't. Now he has some money burning a hole in his pocket he cant spend it quick enough

P.s Don't get me started Pep "The football purest who also doesn't need to spend large amounts of money to achieve things" Guardiola.

I am sure Liverpool fans will be inconsolable if they are competing with City at the top of the league.
We have still spent more and spent it badly at that.

 

[jmaggio]

Klopp is the only manager that gets away with screaming in the 4th officials face and harassing match officials. The media and FA never pick him up for it because it’s part of his “Quirky” bullsh*t personality and his “Heavy Metal” Ja. Loathe the guy.

 

[BullishBull]

Klopp is the only manager that gets away with screaming in the 4th officials face and harassing match officials. The media and FA never pick him up for it because it’s part of his “Quirky” bullsh*t personality and his “Heavy Metal” Ja. Loathe the guy.

I find it ironic that a United fan is moaning about Klopp doing things that Ferguson did for 20+ years.

 

[roonster09]

I've always thought he meant he would not spend all his budget on one star player because it would unbalance the team, and make them over reliant on the star player. He would prefer to build a team to be able to play together where one player being injured or simply not playing well does not impact on the overall performance.

Where he said if football became this way he would be out of a job, I believe he was saying an over reliance on 1 team member would make the coach almost irrelevant compare to the star player, like messi/sampaoli at Argentina.

I think the whole quote is long winded way of saying if he had a £100 million pound budget, he would spend it multiple very good players and not 1 star player.
I could be wrong of course, but that's my view.

You have added your version and gave a completely new interview. No way he meant any of that.

 

[Fridge chutney]

I'm not salty though we both won nothing and enter the UCL at the same stage. I was happy with last season and now we're addressing our weaknesses, midfield and GK. I don't care if Klopp is being hypocritical as long as he addresses our weaknesses. The fact it's pissing off a lot of United fans means we're moving the right way.

I'm not saying that you're salty. I'm just saying that you calling another person salty at Liverpool's grand total of 0 trophies and a lower league finish is daft.

 

[Fridge chutney]

I find it ironic that a United fan is moaning about Klopp doing things that Ferguson did for 20+ years.

Please don't compare Klopp to the great Sir Alex. Sir Alex wins. Klopp is a specialist at trophy dodging.

 

[SER19]

I find it ironic that a United fan is moaning about Klopp doing things that Ferguson did for 20+ years.

Except when Ferguson did the things klopp did he was almost always punished. Fined, occasionally banned and always hugely slated in the press (to the extent that his behaviour has been hugely exaggerated). Klopp very rarely is despite some of his antics being pretty bad. I personally dont care a huge amount but dont think the poster was saying anything other than that he gets away with it more than other managers which is obviously true

 

[SER19]

I'm not salty though we both won nothing and enter the UCL at the same stage. I was happy with last season and now we're addressing our weaknesses, midfield and GK. I don't care if Klopp is being hypocritical as long as he addresses our weaknesses. The fact it's pissing off a lot of United fans means we're moving the right way.

People often say things like this. Its such rubbish. Can a person only be irritated by hypocritical and annoying behaviour when threatened or envious- or is this a glimpse at liveroools mindset? Was nigel pearson not detested by many, likewise mark hughes while in freefall?

Alot of people dont like klopp because they think hes an annoying prick. In this case it annoys me because it was him who as usual couldn't help but talk about united and our business. Before you get ahead of yourself that liverpool are moving the right way try see a sustained title challenge or an indication that klopp can set up a defence. See how he handles the new balance of squad.

Or carry on and assume seasoned football fans will only criticise or offer a discerning opinion because theyre worried about opposition

 

[montpelier]

I have to confess that I quite liked the RAWK take on this set of proceedings.

''CafeRouge are definitely not happy - they're calling Jurgen an absolute shedload of 'orrible names''

''feck 'em''

Which seems fair enough, but I do wish the media love-in with the gurning, unstable, turd-faced git would come to a shuddering halt.

 

[Samid]

I find it ironic that a United fan is moaning about Klopp doing things that Ferguson did for 20+ years.

Piss off with your stupid comparisons. Fergie got fined almost every month, once also for praising a referee. Klopp gets away with murder on the touchline because the refs like his passion.

 

[The Hacker]

Hmmmm...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44913678

 

[MAME DIOUF 32]

From the Guardian's article on Everton's spending today:

Although Jürgen Klopp once said he would rather pack the game in than become involved in a competition to spend money, his response to finishing 25 points behind City has been to add the world’s most expensive goalkeeper to the world’s most expensive defender, not to mention Naby Keïta, Fabinho and Xherdan Shaqiri.

 

[automaticflare]

Piss off with your stupid comparisons. Fergie got fined almost every month, once also for praising a referee. Klopp gets away with murder on the touchline because the refs like his passion.

No one ever said united didn’t spend money tho
Liverpool fans pulling new stats out of their arse to justify it, and also Klopp comments is the infuriating parts

Just acknowledge that your spending big monies now no one would care really

 

[baby keith]

Let's face it - we've had Bodgeson and creepy Uncle Brendan as our last two managers.
8 years ago we had Roy Hodgson smugly introducing our star signings Paul Konchesky and Joe Cole on a free.
Now we've got a manager who makes great players actually want to sign for us.
Is it any wonder we're all so happy with Klopp?

 

[Klopper76]

Let's face it - we've had Bodgeson and creepy Uncle Brendan as our last two managers.
8 years ago we had Roy Hodgson smugly introducing our star signings Paul Konchesky and Joe Cole on a free.
Now we've got a manager who makes great players actually want to sign for us.
Is it any wonder we're all so happy with Klopp?

I think you're forgetting another manager we had in between those two.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Let's face it - we've had Bodgeson and creepy Uncle Brendan as our last two managers.
8 years ago we had Roy Hodgson smugly introducing our star signings Paul Konchesky and Joe Cole on a free.
Now we've got a manager who makes great players actually want to sign for us.
Is it any wonder we're all so happy with Klopp?

Imagine if he were to actually win something.

 

[baby keith]

If he wins us the league he could probably start his own cult.
He may even be able to get something out of Sturridge this season!

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Start? I think he's....nope, that's mean spirited. It must be nice to have a fan base that's unified behind your manager.

 

[Cloud7]

Start? I think he's....nope, that's mean spirited. It must be nice to have a fan base that's unified behind your manager.

Must be nice to have a manager who’s brand of football doesn’t make you want to pull your eyes out every week.

These pointless quips at our own fanbase are now making me have to say positive things about Liverpool. Thanks. Feel like I need a shower now.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Must be nice to have a manager who’s brand of football doesn’t make you want to pull your eyes out every week.

These pointless quips at our own fanbase are now making me have to say positive things about Liverpool. Thanks. Feel like I need a shower now.

It is nice. We sacked LvG. You probably should have noticed.

 

[Klopper76]

Must be nice to have a manager who’s brand of football doesn’t make you want to pull your eyes out every week.

These pointless quips at our own fanbase are now making me have to say positive things about Liverpool. Thanks. Feel like I need a shower now.

It is nice. We sacked LvG. You probably should have noticed.

Here's a question for you. Would you swap the Europa League and League Cup that you've won under Mourinho for an exciting brand of football that you love watching each week?

I'm not asking if you'd swap winning things altogether, only if you'd swap the two trophies that you've won so far under Jose.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I don't particularly mind our brand of football, so no. I think people exaggerate.

Now, I'd swap LvG's brand of football for repeated, severe kicks in the stones.

 

[haram]

Here's a question for you. Would you swap the Europa League and League Cup that you've won under Mourinho for an exciting brand of football that you love watching each week?

I'm not asking if you'd swap winning things altogether, only if you'd swap the two trophies that you've won so far under Jose.

Maybe you should add that with the exciting football you would leak goals and lose finals.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Here's a question for you. Would you swap the Europa League and League Cup that you've won under Mourinho for an exciting brand of football that you love watching each week?

I'm not asking if you'd swap winning things altogether, only if you'd swap the two trophies that you've won so far under Jose.

Nah.

I could put up with exciting football and winning nothing for a little while but not for three years like Liverpool have under Klopp.

 

[Klopper76]

Maybe you should add that with the exciting football you would leak goals and lose finals.

It should be obvious based on the hypothetical scenario I put forward that you wouldn’t be winning anything. Whether you’re leaking goals or not is irrelevant.

I asked if you would swap the Europa League and League Cup’s you’ve won under Mourinho for two years of exciting football under the same manager. Would it make any difference in how you currently feel about him?

 

[Cloud7]

Here's a question for you. Would you swap the Europa League and League Cup that you've won under Mourinho for an exciting brand of football that you love watching each week?

I'm not asking if you'd swap winning things altogether, only if you'd swap the two trophies that you've won so far under Jose.

I would to be honest. Were it a league or a CL my answer would be different, but a Europa league and a league cup are not worth the grind every weekend.

The Europa league was more of a relief than any actually joy for me. Salvaging a CL spot after a season where we finished 6th. As for the league cup, as I said, it’s a league cup. It’s great for a temporary moment of happiness, but it hasn’t been worth the football we’ve had to endure.

Of course someone is going to come in and call me spoilt, saying we don’t have any divine right to win anything at all, which is of course correct, but at some point we have to be honest that Manchester United’s ambition is for the big trophies, not for two second/third tier trophies. If that’s all we’re getting, then the dull football isn’t worth it to me.

 

[Irrational.]

I'd say anything other than second in the league and a trophy of some description this season would be considered an epic failure.

 

[breakout67]

It should be obvious based on the hypothetical scenario I put forward that you wouldn’t be winning anything. Whether you’re leaking goals or not is irrelevant.

I asked if you would swap the Europa League and League Cup’s you’ve won under Mourinho for two years of exciting football under the same manager. Would it make any difference in how you currently feel about him?

Blatantly dishonesty right there. As if all that happened under Mourinho were the two cups and we were never excited as fans in those two years. Also that Liverpool excited fans all the time under Klopp. Basically create a hypothetical scenario based on hyperbole specifically to force a conclusion.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and explain something. 'Boring football' has only manifested itself in 17/18. 16/17 was a season where we played teams off the park but couldn't hit a barn door and kept on constantly drawing games. More specifically the 2nd half of 17/18 is where we regularly grinded out games. Even then we have some of the best games in recent memory where we came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 (Crystal Palace and Man City).

 

[Klopper76]

Blatantly dishonesty right there. As if all that happened under Mourinho were the two cups and we were never excited as fans in those two years. Also that Liverpool excited fans all the time under Klopp. Basically create a hypothetical scenario based on hyperbole specifically to force a conclusion.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and explain something. 'Boring football' has only manifested itself in 17/18. 16/17 was a season where we played teams off the park but couldn't hit a barn door and kept on constantly drawing games. More specifically the 2nd half of 17/18 is where we regularly grinded out games. Even then we have some of the best games in recent memory where we came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 (Crystal Palace and Man City).

I’ve done nothing of the sort. I’m simply asking if you’d give up the trophies for a better brand of football. It’s about your opinion, not being right or wrong.

Don’t be so defensive.

 

[breakout67]

I’ve done nothing of the sort. I’m simply asking if you’d give up the trophies for a better brand of football. It’s about your opinion, not being right or wrong.

Don’t be so defensive.

Oh yes, you made absolutely no reference to specific teams and hyperbolic perceptions of them. You just posed the question of exciting football vs trophies.

 

[Klopper76]

Oh yes, you made absolutely no reference to specific teams and hyperbolic perceptions of them. You just posed the question of exciting football vs trophies.

Christ you’re paranoid. Don’t answer if it bothers you that much.

 

[breakout67]

Christ you’re paranoid. Don’t answer if it bothers you that much.

I'd take boring United that wins trophies over exciting Liverpool that wins no trophies

 

[Liver_bird]

I'd take boring United that wins trophies over exciting Liverpool that wins no trophies

Then just bloody say that. It's a discussion forum for a reason nobody put a gun to your head.

 

[Klopper76]

I'd take boring United that wins trophies over exciting Liverpool that wins no trophies

That was the wrong answer, I’m sorry.

 

[breakout67]

That was the wrong answer, I’m sorry.

Seems relevant since that's what you posed. Why else would you bring up this hypothetical in a Jurgen Klopp thread, and specifically reference the cups United won and the exciting football Liverpool play.

If you asked the question about boring football but winning trophies versus exciting football and no trophies id pick trophies everyday of the week.

 

[Klopper76]

Seems relevant since that's what you posed. Why else would you bring up this hypothetical in a Jurgen Klopp thread, and specifically reference the cups United won and the exciting football Liverpool play.

If you asked the question about boring football but winning trophies versus exciting football and no trophies id pick trophies everyday of the week.

I was kidding. That’s fair enough and ultimately managers have to be judged on what they win.

I brought it up because I was interested in how important playing nice football was to United fans. It seems that a fair few on here are frustrated with the lack of a style of play.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

It's a reasonable question to ask but I think it shows the difference in mentality at Liverpool and Utd.

3 years at Utd without a trophy and you'd be under severe pressure no matter how exciting the football was. There'd be talk of failing to get over the line, failing to get the job done etc. Especially with losing 3 finals in a row.

I think Liverpool fans are almost used to not winning anything anymore, I mean other than a good 2 or 3 years under Houllier and the early reign of Benitez Liverpool haven't been winning stuff regularly for decades, so Klopp is given a lot more leeway.

I mean we've had plenty of Liverpool fans on here arguing Klopp doesn't have to win a trophy this season, which seems baffling to me but there you go.

 

[breakout67]

I was kidding. That’s fair enough and ultimately managers have to be judged on what they win.

I brought it up because I was interested in how important playing nice football was to United fans. It seems that a fair few on here are frustrated with the lack of a style of play.

I think it's a pointless question regarding United (and now Liverpool with their spending). When you spend a lot of money there should be no choice.

I expect Mourinho to have us like his Chlesea or Madrid teams. They won't be free flowing all the time, but they can be bloody entertaining when they turn things on.