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Has he been charged yet or what?
I think in the cold light of day and upon reflection Klopp will know the decisions were correct. Him creating a "the world is against us" mentality deflects away from a woeful 2nd half performance.It also deflects away from the fact that 75m quid after VVD his defence is still a shambles. Lovren's swipe at the ball was sunday leaguesque. The keepers refusal to catch the cross that lead to Wanyama's goal. All these gets swept under the carpet while they wallow in self pity. They really should have down something keeper wise in Jan, even a loan for an experienced one until the summer. There was twice in that game when their keeper came out to collect and the defenders still played the ball. He clearly called it but they don't trust him and that doesn't inspire any kind of confidence.
Can't believe he hasn't been charged yet.
Also Wenger the other day. I don't even think he went as far as Klopp did.An absolute disgrace if they decide not to charge Klopp. If they don't it absolutely proves that there are different standards for different managers. Jose has received touchline bans for a lot less.
Karius does nothing wrong for the Wanyama goal, it's a good punch. 9/10 Wanyama smashes that into row Z. The second pen was a blindside clearance that Lamela buys (and was offside anyway).
Otherwise, the defence did well yesterday. Spurs controlled 60%+ possession but actually created not one proper chance from open play in the second half.
But narrative is narrative.
How was the second pen offside? And how is being booted in the back of the leg buying a penalty?
And Klopp's comments are, as usual, ridiculous and warranting punishment from the FA.
Karius does nothing wrong for the Wanyama goal, it's a good punch. 9/10 Wanyama smashes that into row Z. The second pen was a blindside clearance that Lamela buys (and was offside anyway).
Otherwise, the defence did well yesterday. Spurs controlled 60%+ possession but actually created not one proper chance from open play in the second half.
But narrative is narrative.
Lamela is offside when the ball is headed from the throw in. It was even shown on Sky just now.
And there is no attempt made to play the ball by Lamela. He jumps into VVD, looking for contact. I can see why it's been given, but he was looking for it.
How was the second pen offside? And how is being booted in the back of the leg buying a penalty?
And Klopp's comments are, as usual, ridiculous and warranting punishment from the FA.
Not sure I can see the offside or how Lamela dives. I see Lovren getting a very good hold of Lamela, losing him, VVD letting Lamela get goal side of him and Lamela being in position for a shot on goal if VVD doesn't kick him in the back of the leg.
Again, looking at the video above, I struggle to see how anyone can not see that is a penalty?
Spurs created two of the 4 best chances in the game in open play actually(first one was incorrectly flagged for offside, karius made a great save on Son), and the game itself had very few chances on either side. That was just the type of game it was. I agree liverpool's defensive unit didn't do badly at all, though you're still far too easy to attack in your own half in my opinionOtherwise, the defence did well yesterday. Spurs controlled 60%+ possession but actually created not one proper chance from open play in the second half.
But narrative is narrative.
Spurs created two of the 4 best chances in the game in open play actually(first one was incorrectly flagged for offside, karius made a great save on Son), and the game itself had very few chances on either side. That was just the type of game it was. I agree liverpool's defensive unit didn't do badly at all, though you're still far too easy to attack in your own half in my opinion
Rodgers is criminally underrated for what he did at Liverpool. They played some astonishing football.Rodgers did better (and very nearly won the league) and he was binned off.
You did a good job of defending the box, but a fairly poor job at preventing spurs from getting the ball into the box in dangerous situations. Basically, rather than good collective defending, limiting dangerous situations, it was more Karius and the defenders clearing dangerous situations. Not that surprising you ended up conceding 2 goalsDidn't see any major issues with the defence yesterday. I actually thought we defended the box really well. The problem lay further up the field, where the midfield struggled to string more than 2 passes together once Henderson (much maligned himself) went off.
Apologies... it was Sturridge.I don’t remember Vidic and Torres ever being involved in an incident like that.
Apologies... it was Sturridge.
I remember us being up in arms about with the "no contact" argument but I recall Liverpool fans and the media usual suspects (Graham Poll, etc.) saying it was a penalty as he obstructs his path without winning the ball...
There were many at the time saying it was the right decision as it is still a foul for a defender to obstruct your path and force a change of direction without winning the ball. So yes it was clear simulation by Sturridge but many agreed also a foul...That was a dive by Sturridge. Pretty sure that was the general consensus at the time as well. Sturridge later got fouled by Carrick in that game but didn’t get it. This incident probably influenced that a bit.
So nothing
Yes, that's it.If you're speaking of the comments about the referee that pretty much anyone else would get a ban for, then no.
Yes, that's it.
Are you one from the politically correct brigade?Thanks. Despite your heavy handed style of argument, including unfortunate references to disability, your points did help me get my head around the legalities of the case. You have persuaded me that the goal should have stood. But looking at the rules around offside brings home what a bloody complicated rule it is.
The modern game is a joke. I reckon the penalties/offside decisions in the Liverpool v Spurs and the penalty tonight for Watford v Chelsea were scandalous. I don't give a monkeys if there was any physical contact, in every case the players made a complete meal out of it. Clearly looking for the slightest of contacts and going down like sacks of shite. It happens in nearly every game. It makes me sick to the stomach. As to the "offside" decision in the Liverpool match. He was offside when the ball was played forward towards him, doesn't make a blind bit of difference if an opposing player makes contact after the ball was played. Offside is offside...end of. I guess I am one of the older posters on here, I'm sixty. All I can say is that if any of our generation acted like that when we played then we would have been laughed off the pitch. "THE BEAUTIFUL GAME" my arse! Honestly, watching the majority of games today is truly nausea inducing. Players rolling around in mock agony, diving etc etc. Tackling has almost been driven out of the game. Teams happy to pass the ball aimlessly amongst themselves while the opposition are just as happy to let them do it. A total bore fest. The modern game stinks, rant over.
It's an offside so marginal that it's completely unreasonable to expect a linesman to spot it.Lamela is offside when the ball is headed from the throw in. It was even shown on Sky just now.
It's just about justifying their opinion no matter what.It's an offside so marginal that it's completely unreasonable to expect a linesman to spot it.
If you're complaining about that, you're complaining just to complain.
Also, I'm pretty sure Lovren is holding him. I'm pretty sure holding in the box is a penalty, even if the player being held is offside. So if you really want to get technical about it, a pen should have been called long before van Dijk booted Lamela.
Of course, calling a pen for that would have been dumb, just like your (and others) whinging about Lamela being an inch offside.
If Lamela is offside it's millimeters. Hardly clear and not surprising it wasn't called.
The smash in the back of the knee by van Dijk though was a great spot by the lino.
If Lamela is offside it's millimeters. Hardly clear and not surprising it wasn't called.
The smash in the back of the knee by van Dijk though was a great spot by the lino.
It's an offside so marginal that it's completely unreasonable to expect a linesman to spot it.
If you're complaining about that, you're complaining just to complain.
Also, I'm pretty sure Lovren is holding him. I'm pretty sure holding in the box is a penalty, even if the player being held is offside. So if you really want to get technical about it, a pen should have been called long before van Dijk booted Lamela.
Of course, calling a pen for that would have been dumb, just like your (and others) whinging about Lamela being an inch offside.
Yeah. After video came out showing that Lamela was actually properly booted by van Dijk, they had to find another reason to be angry about the penalty.feck me, that is the offside? That is what they're complaining about now? And whilst Lovren is bear hugging Lamela as well?
It's an offside so marginal that it's completely unreasonable to expect a linesman to spot it.
If you're complaining about that, you're complaining just to complain.
Also, I'm pretty sure Lovren is holding him. I'm pretty sure holding in the box is a penalty, even if the player being held is offside. So if you really want to get technical about it, a pen should have been called long before van Dijk booted Lamela.
Of course, calling a pen for that would have been dumb, just like your (and others) whinging about Lamela being an inch offside.