Yes, that was handled largely by our DoF, but this did not change that Klopp was a major pull for us on the market. Several players stated that he was a major factor for signing, Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang and Kagawa (2nd time) to name a few.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Yes, that was handled largely by our DoF, but this did not change that Klopp was a major pull for us on the market. Several players stated that he was a major factor for signing, Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang and Kagawa (2nd time) to name a few.
What? Kagawa, who is our most productive creative midfielder right now is a shadow of his former self? Sorry, but thats bs. Kagawa underperformed last season (like every single player bar Auba), but this did not change his class. Same with Sahin, who had to fill the void Gündogan left behind when the latter was injured and did very well in that regard. Last season he was injured most of the time, but was our best midfielder when he did play. His injury was infact the one which crippled our play the most as we lacked balance for a long time.
Truth is, that the squad quality was not the problem as this season shows, where nearly the same squad plays exciting and successful football. This freak half season had multiple reasons, some had to do with Klopp (lack of tactical flexibility, dulled methods after seven years), but the squad strength was not amongst it.
no doubt that's the case. But there's a huuuge gulf between yours and Liverpools transfer-comitee. Not saying it's hopeless for them, just saying that comparing their transferfuture to Dortmunds transferpast is pretty far-fetched.
They used to laugh at Mourinho for doing the same thing with Robert Huth.
And I don´t see the problem in it if you lack the options from the bench and want some additional aerial strength in the opposing box. That is actually not new for Klopp to do so. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn´t. The most famous time he did it with us was the CL QF vs. Malaga when he ordered Felipe Santana up to the front, who then became crucial in turning the game around by pre assisting one and scoring the other goal in injury time, creating one of the most special moments for any Dortmund supporter in recent history (the stadium went literally nuts).
What kind of nuts? Almonds? Walnuts?
Yes, all well and good but we're laughing at Liverpool fans who took the piss out of Jose doing it and LVG with Felli.
Anyway, what happened to them holding hands and going over to the supporters, or was that just one off?
No, chestnuts, I´m pretty certain every Dortmund supporter fell down that night at least once by getting absolutely wasted
After the showmanship of his press con Flopp had a reality check. Loved his face at the end - like a smacked bum!
Bs. What was crucial was the referee turning a blind eye to two blatant offsides not some turd playing up top.
Klopp signing him a CB and them playing him up top is utterly moronic. Pretty consistent with his general behaviour though. He really has no clue what he's doing.
Hate him!
Hate him and his stupid gurning smile, with his ugly teeth and his stupid Morrissey wannabe glasses but....He's a good manager. And I've thought this since his Dortmund days. He's just very hard to like for me.
Said he'd go to Liverpool about a year ago, on here. And I never put a bet on ffs
Hate him and his stupid gurning smile, with his ugly teeth and his stupid Morrissey wannabe glasses but....He's a good manager. And I've thought this since his Dortmund days. He's just very hard to like for me.
Said he'd go to Liverpool about a year ago, on here. And I never put a bet on ffs
His celebration of their tying goal against Arsenal was criminal.
LVG would have gotten slaughtered for bringing on a defender late on when you need goals desperately.
He's exotic, it's the only reason he's given a free pass.
Yeah but LvG isn't a cool heavy metal hipster.
LVG says the word philosophy a lot and didn't listen to us when we told him to drop Rooney so he's clueless.
Noone is really dismissing him, but this is a Manchester United forum, and he's a Liverpool manager. Laughing at him and enjoying his failings is sort of what we do.
He's the media's darling that's why, he's getting an easy ride
It's funny how it was acceptable for some on here to have a Klopp love-in when he went to Liverpool and talk about how they would now finish above us, or better still, win the league 
. Now that he's somewhat struggling, it's not ok to give give him some stick..........on a United forum, the day after we beat them at Anfield. Errrrr ok.
Also, his biggest fans should note that plenty on here never liked the man before he went to Liverpool. So stop trying to make out that every single poster on here fawned over him but became bitter and disillusioned when he joined the scousers. It's not the truth and it's becoming agenda driven at this stage.
. Now that he's somewhat struggling, it's not ok to give give him some stick..........on a United forum, the day after we beat them at Anfield. Errrrr ok.Also, his biggest fans should note that plenty on here never liked the man before he went to Liverpool. So stop trying to make out that every single poster on here fawned over him but became bitter and disillusioned when he joined the scousers. It's not the truth and it's becoming agenda driven at this stage.
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Not sure why it's so bad. You're going route 1, pumping balls into the box. A 6ft tall player who wins headers is useful. Plenty of managers have done it in the past and plenty will going forwards too. The state of the Caf when it comes to Klopp is quite ridiculous.
Edit: Even the guy everybody is bending over for used to do it with Pique.
To be fair, it's a bit odd that people look for a serious discussion in a thread called 'Jürgen Flopp Watch'. How likely is that to happen?
I'm not sure how big Klopp's pull really is, if he doesn't finish in the top 4. I can't see his stature making up for the lack of CL football in comparison to the summer after Liverpool finished 2nd under Rodgers and then they couldn't attract top quality players at all. Klopp might have a big pull in Germany and maybe in certain other countries like for example Poland, but even there I doubt he can attract the elite level players you need to win trophies. I also don't think the inconsistency of the English top clubs will continue for much longer. If Guardiola goes to City, he'll push the level in the league again, just like Mourinho did when he first joined Chelsea. And the other clubs need to get their act together to catch up. That's already difficult for Chelsea, United and Arsenal, but it's probably impossible for Liverpool.
I'm really disappointed with Klopp's work so far. I could be wrong of course, but to me it looks as if he's involved in so many different things. He's trying to change the club, the fans, but he really should just focus on the football right now and ignore everything else around it. At Dortmund, he became successful while quietly doing brilliant work as a coach. The really loud stuff went under the radar until the success came. At times it really looks as if he lost that focus. It might be just a tired cliche, I'm aware of that, but despite our rivalry with Dortmund, I always had respect for him. Even though he had his mental moments. Right now he looks like a joke to me, he really should tone it down a bit even if it goes a bit against his character.
Did you see the star sports ad for the game last night? 20 seconds of Liverpool and Klopp followed by 2 seconds of United and the tagline "can van gaal stop the klopp". You would think that they have been unbeaten for months
Yes. The Klopp montage went on and on and on, and I was expecting something similar for LVG/United too. Instead they put this bolded bit. So very balanced.
exactly. All the clippings were from Chelsea game on Oct 31 and City game on nov 21. We should all reply to them saying "Yes"
It is still very gentle here... Nobody has nicknamed Klopp the camel right now...
http://www.celepedia.de/listicle/_tierischahnlich_-jurgen-klopp-das-grimassen-kamel
http://www.celepedia.de/listicle/_tierischahnlich_-jurgen-klopp-das-grimassen-kamel
17/01/2016 .Lost to Man United.
I don't dislike Klopp by any stretch but he's an odd character who has arrived with huge expectations. As such, I expect many Liverpool fans will expect things to improve quite dramatically and quite soon if they aren't to start getting a bit impatient.
For all the talk of him being "The Normal One", I think his quirkiness could work against him in the short term. It's also evident that, at least at the moment, he's expecting his Dortmund style to work in the Premier League. On paper that's fine and when Liverpool press they do it well, but that's what Rodgers tried to get them to do without any success. It's a bloody hard tactic to employ effectively for a full 90 minutes and even harder to do consistently against good opposition, something he won't have faced on quite such a consistent basis in Germany.
Liverpool would be wise to effectively write this season off and treat any qualification for Europe as a bonus. Klopp will then have a proper transfer window and a full pre-season to get his players working in his way. Whether a fully season of his demanding training techniques will pay dividends in a such a fixture-congested country remains to be seen.
For all the talk of him being "The Normal One", I think his quirkiness could work against him in the short term. It's also evident that, at least at the moment, he's expecting his Dortmund style to work in the Premier League. On paper that's fine and when Liverpool press they do it well, but that's what Rodgers tried to get them to do without any success. It's a bloody hard tactic to employ effectively for a full 90 minutes and even harder to do consistently against good opposition, something he won't have faced on quite such a consistent basis in Germany.
Liverpool would be wise to effectively write this season off and treat any qualification for Europe as a bonus. Klopp will then have a proper transfer window and a full pre-season to get his players working in his way. Whether a fully season of his demanding training techniques will pay dividends in a such a fixture-congested country remains to be seen.
Bringing on Caulker wasn't out of character for Klopp, if my memory serves me right he used to put on Santana up front when he was chasing games at Dortmund. Now, if Van Gaal does that, he will be called 'idiot' or a 'lunatic'.
Lots of managers do it. LVG with Smalling has already done it. Guardiola did it with Pique. It's nothing new
Aye it's nothing new. But the fact that Caulker has only signed and played up front (at some point) in both games makes it very odd. Had he thrown, lets say Sakho up front, I doubt anyone would even mention it.
I'm well aware plenty of managers do it - LvG did that with Smalling but in terms of moving him forward and not bringing on from the bench. Can you imagine the reactions on here if we were trailing against Liverpool at home only for Van Gaal to introduce our 3rd/4th CB up front for the last few minutes?
Makes more sense to preserve the CB partnership, no? He wouldn't move to a 1 CB system so putting a sakho upfront and putting on a different CB at the back would be worse
People would go mental as they love to do, means little. Smalling moves up because the likes of blind and Carrick can play CB and they move there. It's better to keep the CB partnership going anyways so bringing on the new guy upfront is better.
I don't judge Klopp's choice because it was only natural given they're a small team. With Caulker up front he had enough ammunition aerially with Can, Benteke and Caulker. Everything I mean is double standards. Klopp shouldn't be lambasted for that but Van Gaal would have been. Not only on here but also in media.
Oh yes, no arguments there. LVG would be called a senile old fool if he did something similar. Lots are having a go at klopp for the same tbf.
Haven't noticed that to be honest. If so, then fair enough. I understand bringing on Caulker but I don't think he should have replaced Milner who's their best crosser of the ball and if the plan was to work I think they should have left Milner on the pitch. Anyway, happy it didn't.
I'm sorry but he should treat this season as a write off? What the hell. He arrived about 2 months into the season he can't just write off a season because of this. Without Europa or CL Liverpool can't attract a lot of players.