Didn't think there was anything wrong with that to be honest.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Didn't think there was anything wrong with that to be honest.
When Brendan Rodgers was losing and couldn't attract big signings, it was all his fault.
When Klopp is losing and can't attract big signings, it's the owners fault.
Love this hypocrisy.
I don't think Klopp is gonna come close to Rodgers' title charge in 13/14. He's there nearly 2 years and all he's done is choke in finals, finish 9th and is once again likely fail to qualify for the Champions League.
If he finishes 7th-9th again, I wonder what the excuses will be? Some Liverpool fans are seriously blindly infatuated with the man.
When Klopp is losing and can't attract big signings, it's the owners fault.
Love this hypocrisy.
I don't think Klopp is gonna come close to Rodgers' title charge in 13/14. He's there nearly 2 years and all he's done is choke in finals, finish 9th and is once again likely fail to qualify for the Champions League.
If he finishes 7th-9th again, I wonder what the excuses will be? Some Liverpool fans are seriously blindly infatuated with the man.
Klopp is virtually unsackable. The question is whether he will ever have the strong balls to resign.
I'm not going anywhere
Would LOVE it if you finished above them this season.
He can laugh of course but he tries too much and looks comoletely fake. Maybe its just me.
Rodgers had Suarez
He's the psychologically scarred lovechild of an unlikely coupling.
I've come to the conclusion that he's the textbook definition of a complete wanker.
You know when you just look at someone or you hear them speak and you just think 'what a fecking wanker'? That's Klopp.
You know when you just look at someone or you hear them speak and you just think 'what a fecking wanker'? That's Klopp.
And would have won if Gerrard didn't slip.
He woulda gotten away with it if it wasn't for those medalless kids.
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What were your views of him prior to him becoming Liverpool manager?
Weird because I thought he was pretty much universally loved on these forums in the Dortmund days. It's ridiculous to think people change their minds about his personality/character etc purely because of his Liverpool association.
If you assume that other results stayed the same, then City would have won the league on goal difference regardless of us beating Chelsea.
Universally loved might be an exaggeration but yeah, he was quite well-liked and admired. Suppose it's the case with managers though...if he was ours we perhaps have a bit of an appreciation for some of his more quirky antics, if that's the right word...provided he wasn't doing too badly.
Pretty sure you'd have beaten Palace handily enough.
The fact he is Liverpool manager now is enough to change my opinion on him (which was always neutral anyway) but he hasn't exactly endeared himself to United fans since taking over now has he? With his whingeing about some mystery offside goal every 5 minutes and his carry on during the Chelsea game on the sidelines.
Yeah wasn't one of the reasons for the collapse against Palace that they went chasing goals while 3-0 up because of the goal difference? Had they beaten Chelsea they would have been 3 points better off so wouldn't have needed to bother so much with the goal difference.
This is funny. Credit to Lardons in The Guardian comments section:
Arsene Wenger to face Jurgen Klopp
Many feel the Frenchman is due the chop
The German himself is also learning
You cannot get by simply by gurning
Yes, run, run and press , press , press
It doesn't stop your season becoming a mess
Paper the cracks with hugs and be zany
But does that cut it at Stoke when it's rainy?
Yes, Jurgen , we are looking at you now
You brought back Stevie the sacred cow
Now you're plummeting down the table
A defeat to Arsenal will cement your label
You soon will join the hallowed ranks
Of many of those who followed Shanks
The false prophet the reds secretly fear -
The one who proclaims: Next year, now that will be our year!
Arsene Wenger to face Jurgen Klopp
Many feel the Frenchman is due the chop
The German himself is also learning
You cannot get by simply by gurning
Yes, run, run and press , press , press
It doesn't stop your season becoming a mess
Paper the cracks with hugs and be zany
But does that cut it at Stoke when it's rainy?
Yes, Jurgen , we are looking at you now
You brought back Stevie the sacred cow
Now you're plummeting down the table
A defeat to Arsenal will cement your label
You soon will join the hallowed ranks
Of many of those who followed Shanks
The false prophet the reds secretly fear -
The one who proclaims: Next year, now that will be our year!
Well... we don't know that, it would have been a totally different higher pressure game. As it was, you could argue, as I am doing, that they were strangely not under any pressure until getting to 3-0 up, then getting all excited about achieving the impossible & winning it on the GD brings on the pressure - and then sees them collapsing completely,
.Dunno, Palace game was very strange how it turned out, refusal to admit it probably couldn't be done on the 13 goal swing of the GD was a bit weird for me. They might have done better to not raise any hopes in that direction.
Well... we don't know that, it would have been a totally different higher pressure game. As it was, you could argue, as I am doing, that they were strangely not under any pressure until getting to 3-0 up, then getting all excited about achieving the impossible & winning it on the GD brings on the pressure - and then sees them collapsing completely,
Dunno, Palace game was very strange how it turned out, refusal to admit it probably couldn't be done on the 13 goal swing of the GD was a bit weird for me. They might have done better to not raise any hopes in that direction.
Was it really 13 goals to be made up?Well the way I look at it is that we lost to Chelsea because Gerrard slipped. Then we drew to Palace because our defence was (and still is) rubbish.
I don't think us drawing 0-0 with Chelsea would have changed the Palace result.
I think Klopp being Liverpool manager has certainly played major part in him being ridiculed and despised on United forums but to say he was universally loved on this forum earlier is bit disingenuous as I think his personality and mannerism were hardly scrutinized by United supporters when he was Dortmund manager as our path never crossed , most of the posters were infatuated with the Dortmund team he created which played some breathtaking football and people would always tend to have soft spot for underdog fighting against the establishment. Better gauge of his likability and popularity would have been German opposition supporters who watched him and his antics regularly, not the United supporters.
LFC finished on +51, Chelsea finished on +65.
I just remember they needed 2 very silly wins but were openly talking about being able to do this (fans were anyway). So even at 3-0 at Palace, they were wanting another 9/10 swing over just a game & a half.
I mean, it's probably just, very just, on the threshold of what's possible. Does Brendan realistically say don't try & score any more lads when CPFC are on the rack at 0-3, I don't suppose he does, but it's entertaining the possibility in the first place that hasn't helped for me.
As illustrated by the balloon going up as soon as Delaney's shot is horribly deflected for CP's first goal - complete change in atmosphere & in the flow of the game even there at 3-1 up.
Huh? All you needed was a point from that game.
Liverpool were -9 on GD to City before that Palace game. It wasn't completely impossible considering how free scoring they were that season.
Two draws against Chelsea and Palace is what I meant. I don't think we were ever going to score against you that day, slip or no slip.
That's rubbish. If you had beat or drawn vs Chelsea you wouldn't be attacking Palace for goal difference at 3-0
Lets first finish above them ourselves... before wanting anyone else to do it.
Oh I misunderstood then obviously. Still, you literally only needed a point against our B team. I still have no idea how you blew that game. You would've gone on to batter Palace & Newcastle.
Also, it's hilarious that season will be remembered solely for Liverpool's bottling despite Arsenal (led for the majority of the seson) & Chelsea (blew the league by dropping silly points against Villa, Sunderland, Palace) choked even harder.
I'm still struggling to understand how City won the League that year. One of the worst Champions ever.
This page has a League table
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27092978
Me & @BlueCelery are both right in a way. For LFC to win on GD there are 9 goals to be made up. But for the GD to be the deciding factor on splitting a tie at 86pts you need more than that because City will improve the GD because they have been winning the games to get the points on the board. So you can AT LEAST 3 to the goals you need for City doing the winning by single goals only.
Surely the correct idea is take the points & then keep everything crossed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27092978
Me & @BlueCelery are both right in a way. For LFC to win on GD there are 9 goals to be made up. But for the GD to be the deciding factor on splitting a tie at 86pts you need more than that because City will improve the GD because they have been winning the games to get the points on the board. So you can AT LEAST 3 to the goals you need for City doing the winning by single goals only.
Surely the correct idea is take the points & then keep everything crossed.
Universally loved may be a bit strong but I'd say if we looked at polls back in the day he was certainly one of the favourites to become a potential new manager.
And he's always been known to be a bit mental in the touchline, charismatic, loud etc. That's why I think attacks now on his personality are silly -- we all knew his personality before, how could you not?
He asked the sorting hat to put him into slytherin. He deserves all the hate he gets.
Why do you believe this? He is as sackable as every other manager, and a lot more sackable than say ranieri was.
I actually thought he was alright even when he became Liverpool manager at first but I take your point.
It's not because he's Liverpool manager that he's a wanker, I still liked Woy when he became Liverpool manager and had plenty of time for Roy Evans back in the day (although I was very young but he always struck me as a decent chap). It's how he acts and speaks and the way he's changed as we've become more exposed to him.
I hate the fawning over him in the media when all he does is slag referees off and slag other teams off for not playing the proper way. He just changed from being fairly humorous and harmless to slowly becoming a complete and utter wanker and he gets away with murder because he's just that kooky German bloke that hipsters love.
I can't think of a person that fits the term wanker as well as he does right now.
Indeed. Which is why nobody dares bump any old threads about Mourinho before he took the reins at United
I'm basing my opinion on the idea that we didn't know how to sit back and defend that season. I think that the collapse at Palace would've still happened even if we'd not been chasing a ridiculous goal difference dream.