Ah those famous with dramatic OTT music no ? Spanish TV can be weird like that
Julen Lopetegui watch
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Not TV, cadena SER. Radio(which are the most reliable in Spain)
Still can't believe the implosion in Spain
One month. All they had to do was wait one month to announce it.
It's not like Lopetegui could do anything as Real manager even if it was announced early.
Nothing makes sense.
One month. All they had to do was wait one month to announce it.
It's not like Lopetegui could do anything as Real manager even if it was announced early.
Nothing makes sense.
Little brother complex, always moaning about the big bad wolf.Ronaldo and Mourinho aren't normal "portuguese" standard... oh well there is always Paulo Futre
I find it that Portuguese people have a bigger ego than the Spanish. Just like Slovakia they think they're now a developed country since getting the Euro, being too petty and trying too hard to enforce a rigid lifestyle in a society of too many rules.To me, Spanish people in general seem more relaxed and open-minded than in Portugal. People might be more humble in the smaller countries, but many are stuck with a spoon up their arse nevertheless, just like in many other cases of "Big Brother is BAD!".
Portugal -> Spain
Scotland -> England
Canada -> USA
Slovakia -> Czech
NZ -> Oz
Norway/Finland -> Sweden
Poland -> Germany
Paraguay -> Argentina
etc...
Little brother complex, always moaning about the big bad wolf.
Portugal -> Spain
Scotland -> England
Canada -> USA
Slovakia -> Czech
NZ -> Oz
Norway/Finland -> Sweden
Poland -> Germany
Paraguay -> Argentina
etc...
What is the purpose of this post? Why are you a full member?
I have never found any complex towards Spain among the common portuguese, not talking about the silly wackos in internet forums, but in the common people one deal with. I can only say this...
...Is true. I can only think about the common portuguese as the complete opposite of Ronaldo and Mourinho. Among the nicest people along Europe and open-minded to foreigners. I can only say good things about the portuguese. It's not uncommon in Spain to say "they know a lot more about us than we know about them, and it's a shame", being neighbours as we are.
Ronaldo and Mourinho aren't normal "portuguese" standard... oh well there is always Paulo Futre
...Is true. I can only think about the common portuguese as the complete opposite of Ronaldo and Mourinho. Among the nicest people along Europe and open-minded to foreigners. I can only say good things about the portuguese. It's not uncommon in Spain to say "they know a lot more about us than we know about them, and it's a shame", being neighbours as we are.
That always happens between smaller vs bigger countries, its nothing to do with Portugal vs Spain.
I guess you are inside the mind of 10 to 11 million people then. Don't know that because I don't like stereotypes.
As someone who isn't able to speak about Slovakians the only thing I can say its there are a lot of historical and cultural differences between the 2 countries, more than that they joined the European Union at different times beside the Euro, maybe you know something I don't see.
Sometimes here or there you can get those people who may have that kind of inferiority complex, not my case anyway, by the way 1 thing is the relation between the Northern Portuguese and Galicians, or people from Lisbon with people from Madrid, Porto with Barcelona, Alentejo or Algarve with Andaluzia, and the list goes on.
Might have to do with the fact they took it to the extreme when faced with the situation they had to prove themselves on bigger countries where sometimes they felt at the beginning they were looked down by the media.
The normal citizen isn't faced with being on the center of a mediatic and privileged professional environment, where a few hundreds or thousands live on a special financial bubble environment.
Most similar thing maybe those who work at the top of the Financial Industry. Reason why they aren't the "standard citizens".
People negotiate everyday without informing the current employers.
Zidane quit like 2 weeks ago, meaning Lopetegui didn't have any contact with Madrid before May 31.
10 days later June 11 Madrid announced Lope. Meaning all contact and negotiations took place in those 10 days.
Yes, I think it's just this syndrome thing. Obviously, not historical scars that runs through the veins of many given country's citizens. Not money, treasures robbed or economy ruined by those oppressing which now means they're bigger. Lunatic post that smacks of fake confidence. I mean, you do know you're seen as small brothers to BrazilLittle brother complex, always moaning about the big bad wolf.
To me, Spanish people in general seem more relaxed and open-minded than in Portugal. People might be more humble in the smaller countries, but many are stuck with a spoon up their arse nevertheless, just like in many other cases of "Big Brother is BAD!".
Portugal -> Spain
Scotland -> England
Canada -> USA
Slovakia -> Czech
NZ -> Oz
Norway/Finland -> Sweden
Poland -> Germany
Paraguay -> Argentina
etc...
(assuming you're from ARG)Can only speak more for us, Poles, though. I genuinely haven't seen any Pole feeling inferior to the Germans. If anything, quite the opposite. We're now seen as a country on the up whereas them...
Also, I wouldn't call 'the bigger of the two' citizens open-minded and relaxed but simply being used to comfort and luxury, being unable to understand the mentality of the opressed where you had to fight hard for everything. It may be mistaken for backward, full of complex attitude but actually it should prove vital in the upcoming years. The economic prognosis for some of those countries you've mentioned are actually pretty good. Who knows, in 30 years' time let's say, some of those pairs can read different (Sweden's will in a decade at most).
Just because it is done, doesn't mean it is not wrong. How is he supposed to be 100% on his country in those conditions ?
good tweet to calm things
This sacking was kind of stupid. I understand their reasoning, but it looks like a shot in the foot.
I have a vague idea of Mourinho being approached by Chelsea as early as we eliminated Manchester United in the Champions League. You gotta remember that by then Chelsea was a possible Porto opponent in the competition. I don't remember the exact time the deal was done and dusted, but I do remember feeling a certain sour taste during the final due to knowing he was already a Chelsea manager. By that time there rumours of him being involved with some Ultra's wife, so they were threatening him and so. He didn't celebrate the CL victory with half the enthusiasm with which he celebrated Costinha's goal. It was like "great, I won it, let me pack my bags and get he hell out of here".
I have a vague idea of Mourinho being approached by Chelsea as early as we eliminated Manchester United in the Champions League. You gotta remember that by then Chelsea was a possible Porto opponent in the competition. I don't remember the exact time the deal was done and dusted, but I do remember feeling a certain sour taste during the final due to knowing he was already a Chelsea manager. By that time there rumours of him being involved with some Ultra's wife, so they were threatening him and so. He didn't celebrate the CL victory with half the enthusiasm with which he celebrated Costinha's goal. It was like "great, I won it, let me pack my bags and get he hell out of here".
You dont sack you manager just 2 days before the start of the World Cup. You just dont. Massive failure by the spanish FA..
Of course all examples are not the same, I prefer the little brothers in most cases(including Poland-Germany). Greece for example consider themselves to be the cradle of life and Turkey's big brother, while the Turks don't really care. They are just curious, lovely people without excess pride.Yes, I think it's just this syndrome thing. Obviously, not historical scars that runs through the veins of many given country's citizens. Not money, treasures robbed or economy ruined by those oppressing which now means they're bigger. Lunatic post that smacks of fake confidence. I mean, you do know you're seen as small brothers to Brazil
Can only speak more for us, Poles, though. I genuinely haven't seen any Pole feeling inferior to the Germans. If anything, quite the opposite. We're now seen as a country on the up whereas them...
Also, I wouldn't call 'the bigger of the two' citizens open-minded and relaxed but simply being used to comfort and luxury, being unable to understand the mentality of the opressed where you had to fight hard for everything. It may be mistaken for backward, full of complex attitude but actually it should prove vital in the upcoming years. The economic prognosis for some of those countries you've mentioned are actually pretty good. Who knows, in 30 years' time let's say, some of those pairs can read different (Sweden's will in a decade at most).
I'm Swedish, but I've been travelling for the past 11 years. And now I'm ending my rant possibly seeming xenophobic. :P
Press and former players/manager have a very divided opinion.
Xavi said that is a good decision and according to Javier Clemente Rubiales is a hick.
Segurola, some periodists in Marca are in favor of the decision and for what I am seeing in el chiringuito they are against.
Rubiales said that he knew it 5 minutes before, and asked Madrid and Lopetegui not to do anything but I also read that he knew the day before.
El larguero said that Lopetegui is really affected and didn´t expect the decision
Xavi said that is a good decision and according to Javier Clemente Rubiales is a hick
.Segurola, some periodists in Marca are in favor of the decision and for what I am seeing in el chiringuito they are against.
Rubiales said that he knew it 5 minutes before, and asked Madrid and Lopetegui not to do anything but I also read that he knew the day before.
El larguero said that Lopetegui is really affected and didn´t expect the decision
As an outsider I am with the FA on my this one. It’s about principles and not setting the wrong precedence.
There will be other world cups and if you say this is o.k by keeping him on it likely to happen again. Now any manager will atleast inform the FA if something like this come up.
There will be other world cups and if you say this is o.k by keeping him on it likely to happen again. Now any manager will atleast inform the FA if something like this come up.
Real Madrid are a disgusting club
I just coudln't believe this news
Lo Patego (Lopetegui) appointed Real Madrid manager. How is that even possible? Even appointing André Villas Boas would probably be a better choice.
Here in POrtugal he is remembered as the manager with the highest budget ever at FC Porto and failed to win anything remarkable, and the aesthetics of the football was not that great either.
His tiki-taka was toothless and Porto draw a lot of games where they had tons of possession, but the team just couoldn't do anything productive with the ball.
Lo Patego (Lopetegui) appointed Real Madrid manager. How is that even possible? Even appointing André Villas Boas would probably be a better choice.
Here in POrtugal he is remembered as the manager with the highest budget ever at FC Porto and failed to win anything remarkable, and the aesthetics of the football was not that great either.
His tiki-taka was toothless and Porto draw a lot of games where they had tons of possession, but the team just couoldn't do anything productive with the ball.
The Madrid players in the NT will want him to be successful. He will have way more backing than Benitez did and that's a big advantage to start with.
Wait until Lo Patego starts being stubborn with his toothless tiki-taka without a B plan and making random player rotations that will cost Madrid points.
I just coudln't believe this news
Lo Patego (Lopetegui) appointed Real Madrid manager. How is that even possible? Even appointing André Villas Boas would probably be a better choice.
Here in POrtugal he is remembered as the manager with the highest budget ever at FC Porto and failed to win anything remarkable, and the aesthetics of the football was not that great either.
His tiki-taka was toothless and Porto draw a lot of games where they had tons of possession, but the team just couoldn't do anything productive with the ball.
From this to Real Madrid manager in 2 years... his career has been so weird, it's like he keeps falling upwards.
Imo this was a lose-lose situation for Madrid. No matter what they did it would be the wrong option with Lopetegui.
- You don't announce the signing -> the information reaches the media at full force (the rumors had started already) just a few hours before the WC or in the middle of it and the bomb explodes.
- You announce the signing as soon as possible-> Rubiales gets mad and sacks the coach two days before the WC because it was officially announced the coach would leave the NT after the WC four days before it starts.
No matter what you do, the result will be bad, only that the second alternative was very hard to predict, whereas the first one was perfectly plausible.
- You don't announce the signing -> the information reaches the media at full force (the rumors had started already) just a few hours before the WC or in the middle of it and the bomb explodes.
- You announce the signing as soon as possible-> Rubiales gets mad and sacks the coach two days before the WC because it was officially announced the coach would leave the NT after the WC four days before it starts.
No matter what you do, the result will be bad, only that the second alternative was very hard to predict, whereas the first one was perfectly plausible.
Jorge Mendes is a noob compared to Lopetegui's agent. If he can put Lopetegui at Real Madrid, he can do anything in the world of football transfers! An empire have started!
Porto spent so much money with Lopetegui's hirings that they are still in financial troubles today
Not to mention that choosing Lo Patego as manager would always be a lose situation.
I know he's not that bad, mate. Just bashing him a bit like we did when he was at Porto. But having an unbeatable run in a qualifying for WC/Euro is far from being something remarkable, tbh.
so who is looking after the Spain side in the World Cup
have they decided that?
have they decided that?
Hierro.
It was a joke about being unbeaten in the WC, not the qualifiers
I can understand the bashing, and it's more knowledgeable from fans who saw him from close working on a daily basis, so I appreciate your insights more than anything coming from anyone else right now.
What was anyone thinking in all of this? Complete train wreck.
It was a joke about being unbeaten in the WC, not the qualifiers
I can understand the bashing, and it's more knowledgeable from fans who saw him from close working on a daily basis, so I appreciate your insights more than anything coming from anyone else right now.
Oh. My brain was too slow, but a good joke nonetheless
The bashing is impossible to resist. From the record breaking transfers at Porto to the "puñetazo" threat to Jorge Jesus (not that he wouldn't deserve. btw), a lot of fond memories are kept by Benfica and Sporting fans from his time at Porto and we all wish he was still at their bench
Having said this, if you bare in mind Madrid's squad quality, he has potential to at least keep Madrid in the title run until the end, much like he did with Porto at Portugal.
He did a decent work at Porto tbh. In terms of tactical and physical preparation, Porto was well guided as you could check by his defensive record during his stint.
Having said that, despite being a tiki taka type of manager, he was too conservative on his choices, even against opponents who were happy to sit back in front of their goalkeeper, he just didn't risk anything, sticking with his plan no mather what.
Jorge Mendes is a noob compared to Lopetegui's agent. If he can put Lopetegui at Real Madrid, he can do anything in the world of football transfers! An empire have started!
Porto spent so much money with Lopetegui's hirings that they are still in financial troubles today
Erm...
I think sacrificing a World Cup (something both the players and the fans presumambly care far more about) for the sake of the FA's image and their internal politics with Madrid is arrogant and hubristic in the extreme from an organisation for whom the players & the fans should be the primary concerns.
Whatever problems they have with Madrid could have been dealt with after the tournament, at no cost to their world cup chances.
With their golden generation coming to an end it could be decades before they win a world cup again. They've won, what, one world cup prior to now in their entire history? "There will be other world cups" wouldn't cut it for me if I was a Spaniard. Certainly if I was one of the retiring Spanish players I would be planning on absolutely ripping the FA to pieces once the tournament was over.
Hell, even just as an outsider who was supporting Spain, this has irked me and actively made me less excited for the tournament.
http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2018/06/14/5b2249a4ca474156688b4624.html
He is going to be presented tonight. Around the same time as the Spanish NTs final press conference.
Real Madrid are something else.
He is going to be presented tonight. Around the same time as the Spanish NTs final press conference.
Real Madrid are something else.
Jorge Mendes is a noob compared to Lopetegui's agent. If he can put Lopetegui at Real Madrid, he can do anything in the world of football transfers! An empire have started!
Porto spent so much money with Lopetegui's hirings that they are still in financial troubles today
Jesus... Mendes is also his agent? This mistery appointment is finally exaplined
Makes it worse doesn’t it. Instead of focusing on his current job, he was busy negotiating his next job. It’s not like it’s a lull period, it’s literally days before the World Cup.
Perez and Lopetegui both threw digs at the Spanish FA. They have some nerve.
And? Wtf you think he’s been doing while the club seasons going? Sitting on his thumb? The only thing he probably had to do at that point was maybe pick his XI based on training.
Real Madrid have had strange managers in the past. This is not new.