Reminds me of Pogba without the passing
Jude Bellingham | Signed for Madrid
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How has Bellingham stood out in CL? If anything, his performances there have been pretty average. He did have a good World Cup, to be fair, but a lot of young players do and are then forgotten about. For instance, 22 year old Azzedine Ounahi was one of the best midfielders in the World Cup and was toying around Spain's midfield but these days he can barely get into Marseille's midfield.
And to answer your question, Sancho stood out more than Bellingham in Champions League for Dortmund.
I don't know, have they?
I don’t think so, what do you think?
Interesting about Ounahi. He looked amazing at the World Cup. Surprised he’s struggling at club level. That’s why it’s never good practice to sign a player just on the back of a good World Cup.
To be honest, I genuinely think international football is no longer a way of qualifying if a player is good enough. The quality and intensity of international football is so much lower than it used to be.
England have got to a final and semi final in the last 2 tournaments and the quality of opponents has been nowhere near what you would face in the champions league or even the premier league.
He is an absolute no for me especially at the price quoted.
Yes he is good at things, many things but he isn’t great at anything. And for that price, you Atleast want someone to be great at one if not couple of things.
Stay away, if anyone wants to spend their 120-150m on him, let them….
Even If we have new ownership who wants to make a statement, he isn’t the right signing.
On top we desperately need a 20 plus goals striker as a first priority.
Outgoings with right planning: Approx. 120-150m. Harry Macquire, Soct Mc, VDB, Henderson, Elanga, B Williams, Martial,Telles and Baily: I think we should get around 150m combined all for them.
Striker: 120m
FDJ: 70m
Defensive MF squad option or young prospect: 40m
Defender WC (super quick): 80m
Back up GK:10-20m
Net spend: 170-180m and we will have a WC team.
Yes he is good at things, many things but he isn’t great at anything. And for that price, you Atleast want someone to be great at one if not couple of things.
Stay away, if anyone wants to spend their 120-150m on him, let them….
Even If we have new ownership who wants to make a statement, he isn’t the right signing.
On top we desperately need a 20 plus goals striker as a first priority.
Outgoings with right planning: Approx. 120-150m. Harry Macquire, Soct Mc, VDB, Henderson, Elanga, B Williams, Martial,Telles and Baily: I think we should get around 150m combined all for them.
Striker: 120m
FDJ: 70m
Defensive MF squad option or young prospect: 40m
Defender WC (super quick): 80m
Back up GK:10-20m
Net spend: 170-180m and we will have a WC team.
We will have to find another midfield playmaker because De Jong is just taking the piss
He's class, would rather we go big for him than Kane. One of the best combative midfielders out there. So press resistant, strong in duels, athletic, box to box.
His temperament is bad but he's clearly much better than a lot of his dross loser teammates, it's understandable.
Him, De Jong, Bennacer, Barella, and maybe Kone / Thuram, Lobotka, Caqueret, we really need one of these guys.
His temperament is bad but he's clearly much better than a lot of his dross loser teammates, it's understandable.
Him, De Jong, Bennacer, Barella, and maybe Kone / Thuram, Lobotka, Caqueret, we really need one of these guys.
He’s amazing.
Just a talent. Nothing more. Yet, should be said. Todays game is another one that showed that he has lot to learn to even touch that reputation he somehow got.
Price over 100m is ridiculous.
Price over 50m is just crazy.
Price around 25m might be "normal".
Awful post.
Have you passed through a time machine lately?!
We need goals then focus on midfield control
Not going to get goals without control, your attackers will be useless anyway.
It is a miracle, the form Rashford has had but he will never sustain that. Kane would look lost.
No more Dortmund player. We have been rinsed too many times by that lot.
At the price it’s a NO. Brilliant talent and there is something about him.
He is not performed or shown the ability for that amount yet. CM are a tricky one because it’s their tactical understanding of the game that propels them unto new height. At this moment in time he is not showing the tactical understanding the two Madrid lads have shown to command such fees.
His is currently a potential Gerrard and that should not cost more than 60m.
He is not performed or shown the ability for that amount yet. CM are a tricky one because it’s their tactical understanding of the game that propels them unto new height. At this moment in time he is not showing the tactical understanding the two Madrid lads have shown to command such fees.
His is currently a potential Gerrard and that should not cost more than 60m.
I don't know if I'm ready for a big money, unproven signing from the BL again... His price is very inflated and I don't think there is enough to warrant paying it.
I agree. At the prices quoted and the fact we don’t have an unlimited budget, I’m not that keen.
Add to that our recent acquisitions from the BL and how they’ve faired, I’m just struggling to get onboard.
If we want an all action young no.8 I think we should go for Jacob ramsey over Bellingham, don't get me wrong Bellingham is an exceptional midfielder,who is ahead of his mates in their development both physically and footballing wise.
But while he might be great he's not exceptional at anything,does he have the ability to dictate play like Camavinga or pedri ? Does he have elite attacking prowess and creativity like musiala or wirtz ? Does he have the vision and passing of odegaard and Enzo Fernandez ? Or defensive abilities of tchoumeni ?
This are players I rather spend 100m on just because you know they could take up a role and be the best in that position in a few years time,then build your team to their strengths.
As for Bellingham he would fit in any role in our midfield and play well but not to an elite level.
He would be perfect for Liverpool IMO
But while he might be great he's not exceptional at anything,does he have the ability to dictate play like Camavinga or pedri ? Does he have elite attacking prowess and creativity like musiala or wirtz ? Does he have the vision and passing of odegaard and Enzo Fernandez ? Or defensive abilities of tchoumeni ?
This are players I rather spend 100m on just because you know they could take up a role and be the best in that position in a few years time,then build your team to their strengths.
As for Bellingham he would fit in any role in our midfield and play well but not to an elite level.
He would be perfect for Liverpool IMO
If you need control you definitely shouldn't go for Bellingham.
The Bellingham hype in general really confuses me. At every given occasion people belittle Bundesliga players and yet there are still myths going around that Bellingham might give you control over a game or something like that. He's a Bruno type of midfielder, one that usually opts for the high risk option and not the easy one. From all the prodigies currently out there, Bellingham is easily the one with the rawest decision making and most unnecessary turnovers of possession. He would have to have more scorers than 4 and 5 in 25 to warrant that wastefulness. I could go on about his defensive contribution and leadership but I'll stop here. IMO he's quite lucky that Dortmund was playing so well in the last few weeks/months because if not he would have seen much more criticism coming his way.
He's very different to Pogba.
His playing style is very much Pogba! Don’t really get much closer. Just lacks Pogba’s vision like someone said.
Pogba has never had that level of close control, dribbling, general technique. He's not that agile. Pogba was more of a passer who was very good at long passes, he was weak under the press because he's not quick on the ball.
Absolutely clueless
Paul Pogba! Not Mathias
Pogba is one of the most gifted players technically, even today. Bellingham is simply not close to him.
Pogba was a much more technical player and a better dribbler. Bellingham is energetic, drives forward well with the ball (though I think he let's it get away from him too often) and I reckon he'd find the lack of space in the prem hugely problematic for his game. No doubt he's a real talent but the BL suits him down to the ground for now.
Bellingham is more agile, a better dribbler and contributes more against the ball, Pogba is a better passer, has better ball control and is stronger. But there are definitely some parallels and especially their weaknesses are similar. A knack for hero ball, tactical discipline and refusal to play simple which leads to overall wastefulness.
I dont know if I can take a summer where we spend the whole summer chasing 1 guy that doesn't come. I would love Jude at Manutd but for where we are, I rather us go get players that we can get by July and get them in pre season.
Still dealing with one completely overhyped Dortmund flop and everyone’s swiftly moved on to wanking over the next prospect. Never learn.
He shares lots of similarities with Pogba and strengths seem more or less the same although Bellingham seems faster and more athletic while Pogba is a superior passer of the ball.
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… I can’t even begin to unpick this.
I’ll give you that Pogba is more ponderous in possession but that’s about it.
Yeah know exactly what you mean
This is fun.
Gut feeling says avoid.
Gives me Pogba vibes. And that excites me but also scares me.
Same.
He is not a 120m player
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