You do this for every other transfer too then? As every agent gets paid for every transfer
Are agent fees usually 25% of a transfer fee? I'd absolutely lump Haaland's agent fees in. I know most people do when discussing that transfer.You think agent fee are only part of this transaction? Check the agent fee paid by each club that FA reports. Also i never saw anyone saying Haaland cost 100 million.
Weird even ManUtd fans are like click bait papers
Why so sceptical? It's been obvious for ages that we are in for this player.Interesting - beginning to look like more than just 'agent putting his client in the shop window' type of stuff - could be something in it.
Why so sceptical? It's been obvious for ages that we are in for this player.
Because the agent fees are clearly extraordinary in this instance. It also was with the Haaland transfer from Dortmund to City, which is why agent fees often get brought up there as well.
If you look at the fee as a proportion of the transfer, it's 25 % or higher, depending on which report is correct. If it's wages, then it's likely that the agent will get paid as much as the player is over a full 5 year contract. This is assuming that the club isn't paying a percentage of the wages to the agent as well, on top of the reported fee, which I don't know.
These are crazy numbers, well outside normalcy.
He seems pretty easy to deal with. That third party stuff is history. Some of you act like he's some kind of international arms dealer.It's surprising how very little is being said about his so called "agent" Kia Joorabchian. The same dodgy businessman involved in third party ownership of players like Tevez and Mascherano. He isn't even a registered agent.
Guess you missed the reports where it was mentioned that his agent was willing negotiate the fee down for us? Until the signing is confirmed and you know the full fee which was paid, I don't know why you are so concerned.Are agent fees usually 25% of a transfer fee? I'd absolutely lump Haaland's agent fees in. I know most people do when discussing that transfer.
I don't know what you mean by quoting click-bait papers. All I've read is the caf and that Milan have balked at the agent fees. Also, his agent is notorious among United fans.
Guess I've stumbled upon sensitive transfer Muppet territory.
I don't think that'll happen unless Amad or Antony are sold, unfortunately.fine to bring in a striker to compete with Rasmus but we still need to bring in a wing player as well
if we lose both greenwood and sancho...you have to bring in someoneI don't think that'll happen unless Amad or Antony are sold, unfortunately.
Rashford, Garnacho, Amad and Antony - They could potentially bring back Pellistri too.if we lose both greenwood and sancho...you have to bring in someone
yes i know neither really played for us last season but clearly showed in our goal scoring that our wing play was shiite
But we don't have enough off the ball runners. Dropping Hojlund for Zirkzee means we have one less. Antony wants ball to feet, Amad wants ball to feet, Bruno wants ball to feet. Garnacho will make a run. Rashford might if he's bothered. Ten Hag's philosophy isn't really the relevant thing here, getting players who function alongside our other players is.
Dropped from 12 to 10, yes? That's 25% in agent fees, as I'd stated.Guess you missed the reports where it was mentioned that his agent was willing negotiate the fee down for us? Until the signing is confirmed and you know the full fee which was paid, I don't know why you are so concerned.
I haven't seen a single 90 minute match of his.
I hope he's a top forward.
His profile seems to fit the bill...
Think it's because you came off sounding like LuckyScout, no offense
This post is quite something. The perfect example of the football expert complaining about everything a player is and is not from checking whoscored and and a youtube video and without considering any context or nuance. Let's try to add the context and nuance.
Goals
- Zirkzee is a facilitating striker who plays more like a 9.5/10. He is knitting together attacks and making space for others. Bologna scored an average of 1.59 goals per game when Joshua Zirkzee played (34 games) and 1 goal per game when he did not play (4 games).
- Listing goals scored from when he was 18/19 years old getting a few minutes in a few games for Bayern, is also an unimportant point. Only a handful of strikers have managed to score consistently at that age. Scoring 18 goals for Anderlecht as a 20/21 year old is a very decent return.
Playing time
- I too find it odd that he hasn't been getting more playing time. However, as has been pointed out several times, Koeman has his favourites like most other national team coaches.
- Being behind Wout Weghorst is odd, but team dynamics experience (why I also think Depay is ahead of him) is important for the team. Koeman clearly think Weghorst can create more goalscoring chances in those moments in the game.
Development and potential
- Luckily, development is not linear. Especially for strikers, finishing and composure in the attacking third usually takes time to develop.
Personally, I think Zirkzee is a really intriguing addition. I think he will come in and play both instead of and with Højlund. I think he will elevate our attacking play, with especially Rashford becoming a benefactor. And I think if he can develop his finishing, he will become a very complete striker / attacker.
Rashford, Garnacho, Amad and Antony - They could potentially bring back Pellistri too.
I would like another wide player, I just don't see it happening this summer.
Literally the two of them couldn’t be any different.Cavani vibes in his play
If I'd be comparing to any previous striker we've had before, I'd sooner compare him to someone like Berba. Less talented, less scorers instinct and deeper, but a big languid CF who you feel should be more dominant physically than he actually is. It's a combo of the age and potential, price point, and being a good different option to Hojlund so that we can change things when needed.Literally the two of them couldn’t be any different.
Cavani was much stronger! I mean Zirkzee scored only 11 goals watch Cavani records from the second season in Serie A as starter 14 and 13 at Palermo. Then moved to Napoli and scored 26,23 and 29 goals before going to PSG for 64mCavani vibes in his play
He's irreplaceable to Brentford who've been pretty adamant they want a lot of money for him. For £40m they'd probably rather keep him and let him go for free next summer, which is what will probably happen.
I don't disagree with you but there's slim to no chance they are bringing in a 6th winger.Amad, Antony and Pellestri....gets you 3 goals a season
we have to bring in a winger that can push rashford and garnacho for a starting spot....ffs if Liverpool can have 5 wingers of quality we should at least try to get to 3
Actually Bruno’s very good at making runs of the ball. He always goes beyond the ST. Whether he gets picked out or not is a different matter. He made loads of decent runs for Portugal in the euros but hardly got found.But we don't have enough off the ball runners. Dropping Hojlund for Zirkzee means we have one less. Antony wants ball to feet, Amad wants ball to feet, Bruno wants ball to feet. Garnacho will make a run. Rashford might if he's bothered. Ten Hag's philosophy isn't really the relevant thing here, getting players who function alongside our other players is.
People saying he mustn’t be good because he’s not starting for the Netherlands team. I guess players like olise, Palmer, Zaire Emery, Joao neves are all bad players because they don’t get into their national teams either.
Stats alone, I'm far from convinced about this guy. His goals and assists as a total seem very underwhelming.
That being said, I just watched the video from a few pages back, all highlights from Bologna.
If he can add goals to his game, he actually looks a very interesting player. I'm looking forward to them driving runs through the middle of the pitch that he seems to do often. Really opens up the field
People saying he mustn’t be good because he’s not starting for the Netherlands team. I guess players like olise, Palmer, Zaire Emery, Joao neves are all bad players because they don’t get into their national teams either.
Joshua Zirkzee:
However, redcafe doesn't rate him because:
- 23 years old.
- 15 goals contribution (for a team that scored 54 goals thus 28% of the goals, rated as a very mediocre season by redcafe).
- Main player for a club that finished in 9th in 22/23 but will be playing in CL next season.
- Serie A Young Player of the Year (after a very mediocre season as per redcafe).
- Scored or assisted against Inter, Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Roma, Lazio, and Fiorentina (Top 1-8 teams of Serie A, the league with the highest coefficient ranking this season).
- 25 goal contributions in 38 games for Anderlecht in 21/22.
- A different profile of striker than Hojlund which provides us with more tactical flexibility.
- 193cm tall yet highly technical.
- Ronald Koeman the world class manager doesn't pick him to start national games.
- He didn't do anything after being subbed on in the 87th minute of the Euro quarter finals.
- He did not score 20 goals last season (as if there are strikers with 20 goals a season lying around to be signed for less than £40m, and also not near 30 or over 30).
- His hair reminds them of Fellaini.
- His youtube videos are not convincing enough.
- Looks too slow and weak from Youtube videos (although all regular watchers of him says otherwise).
Im guessing hojlund is headed to the bench if we sign him then.
You can also add manager bias to that. Koeman like Southgate have their 'favourites' or players they have trusted for a longer period of time.Not sure about that logic. It surely depends how good those national teams are. Or how good the player keeping you out is.
I hope not but I can definitely see him playing in that 'false 9' position Bruno played late on last season. Formation worked and he has the skills to carry that out, it seemsIm guessing hojlund is headed to the bench if we sign him then.
