Wasn't Kia Joorabchian the same dude from the Mascherano/Tevez affair and then later pimped Tevez to City? Everything involving him has been shady thus far. Why are we dealing with this bloke again?
It's been suggested that, as Joorabchian isn't actually a licensed agent, the fee going to him is essentially the price of his 'stake' in the player. In that instance it would be a case of giving the prick his money and not having to deal with him again.
I have no idea how accurate that really is, but it seems to make a lot more sense than the broker just pulling a random fee out of their arse.
Isn't that exactly how the Tevez saga unfolded? I was of the impression third party ownership is banned in football. Not sure what's cooking if he has a stake in Zirkzee?
I have been saying for ages that I think we will go for David anyway.I think as @devilish mentioned it could be for the good of his agency. It would probably be better to have a player on his books at United, than AC Milan. When he goes to recruit talent, he can use a good example of how he got a client a big payday from his agency's management, so the "discount" could make sense in the long run.
Pure speculation on my part, but I can see some logic in it.
45m pounds for a striker who seems not much of a goalscorer is still a lot of money.
I have been saying for ages that I think we will go for David anyway.
We need a goalscorer and I think David will do better in England.
Don’t think it is too weird. He went through parts of Bayern’s academy so they want to profit (and have an option to buy him back cheaply at 50% of the release clause.), if he „makes it“. They also sold him to Bologna at a very friendly price because of this.In the Tevez thing, KJ still somehow had the 'stake' or whatever the appropriate terms is. And yes, third party ownership is indeed banned, but smarter people than me seem to circumvent them somehow and make a killing doing so.
I think it's all tied into his move from Bayern to Bologna. Bayern have a 50% sell-on clause which is already a bit weird, so what's a little more weirdness?
Don’t think it is too weird. He went through parts of Bayern’s academy so they want to profit (and have an option to buy him back cheaply at 50% of the release clause.), if he „makes it“. They also sold him to Bologna at a very friendly price because of this.
I agree on that. It is probably more common, that the selling club has some kind of buy-back clause or matching rights.Weird as in rare - you don't often see low release clause plus huge sell on plus cheap buy back all wrapped up in the same deal. If that's ubiquitous I haven't noticed anyway.
I agree on that. It is probably more common, that the selling club has some kind of buy-back clause or matching rights.
Zirkzee wanted Bologna, Bologna isn't exactly rich (their record transfer is €15m), so Bayern came up with a structure that enabled him to go there nonetheless.
No idea mate. Zirkzee never struck me as "good enough" for Bayern, so I never really followed what was going on with him and his agents/entourage.Would you know if it was at that stage that Joorabchian became involved (as in was it his party structuring such a deal) or was he already 'representing' Zirkzee?
I don't mind us making this signing, but only if we prioritize the correct positions first and this doesn't hinder us for others. We have to address CB and DM before other positions, and spending 40m or so on a squad CF before addressing the more pressing issues could make us pivot away from priority targets in the other areas.
It's the same issue I had with mount. Individually, good player. Wasn't a need, and was a lot of money to spend on that when we had other things to focus on.
Him and Bruno won’t be an issue as long as there are players who exploit the spaces that both Zirkzee and Bruno are creating. That means it benefits rashford, Amad, and Garnacho.My only concern is that he might take up the same spaces as Bruno does.
We see how that works out with England at the euros with Kane, Bellingham and foden.
Perhaps we’ll go 442. That would be something!
Get Tevez vibes off this player. Not a bad thing
My only concern is that he might take up the same spaces as Bruno does.
We see how that works out with England at the euros with Kane, Bellingham and foden.
Perhaps we’ll go 442. That would be something!
Yes. He was in a pair in Italy at Atalanta. Ironically, I actually thing that would suit the players that we have really well. I also think both Garnacho and Rashford are also well suited to a striker partnershipCan Hojlund work in a pair?
He looks adaptable and at 23 he can go up a level or two. Direct and a good dribble, 6ft 4 is a strong welcome presence too.The way I see it while he isn't an elite talent he plays similarly to Martial and we probably played our best football when Martial was fit and in form (admittedly that wasn't often). I think Rashford and Garnacho will benefit more playing with him than with Hojlund.
Who is this and is he to be listened too?
Hear me out, if we deploy Zirkzee as a false 9 we could maybe try Hojlund on the right similar to how we used Greenwood? Might make better use of his explosive pace as that's his only elite skill right now.
Yeah but you say anything when you're trying to get a job. For example, I specialise in conflict resolution. The conflict I resolved? Two blokes about to fight in a pub.Yep, definitely an option. I think Hojlund said himself he was able to play wide when he signed for us.
Who is this and is he to be listened too?
