I want to see him in a role away from United.
Never seen a United player look so out of his depth so early on. He makes Antony look serviceable.
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I want to see him in a role away from United.
Never seen a United player look so out of his depth so early on. He makes Antony look serviceable.
It's not the shot itself, it's the fact that he seemed so reluctant to pull the trigger and then that's what the result was.
I simply don't think he has the intensity to play at this level.
I’ve seen enough. There’s nothing to suggest he’s at the level required and it was a baffling decision from Amorim to put him on. Get rid ASAP and find a forward/striker with speed, dribbling ability and intensity.
Hes clearly low on confidence and being thrown on in the final third of games here and there won't help him settling in.
I'm not saying he's going to be a success or a world beater but let's not assume he's always going to be shit because he hasn't started well. In a suitable system he's very capable of being a big asset. He has the physicality to cope and a lot of these poor habits can be trained out of him.
Well...
He’s low on ability rather than confidence.
Superb conversion from him though it must be said
It’s still very early days but he does look like someone completely unsuited to the Premier League. Suspect he will be back in Serie A next season.
when we used to sub Chica into the game, we would instantly see him running behind defences and waiting for the crosses.
how do you "unleash" a player this slow on opposition? he looks slower and more tired than everyone else on the pitch every time he comes in.
how do you "unleash" a player this slow on opposition? he looks slower and more tired than everyone else on the pitch every time he comes in.
Did ok in his short ammount of time a is showing signs that this is a decent player in there but not one that should be used as a striker.
He looked better today but man he is slow...
Its not very conclusive that this is the case. He was superb in the system for Bologna where he was a false 9. I want to see more or him before deciding either way. He's being treated far more harshly than Hojlund.
No he isn't. You just like him more. They are both getting a ton of stick because they aren't the shiny new toy people want.
Amorim told him to go into the box from deep, but the guy was just standing on the edge most of the time.
Took his point well, a few counties would take him in Ireland.
On a serious note though he’s just a very average forward. His intensity is non existent and I can’t see Amorim taking to him whatsoever .
On a serious note though he’s just a very average forward. His intensity is non existent and I can’t see Amorim taking to him whatsoever .
He is very slow but he does have qualities. Thought he looked much better today. Give Amorim some time to work with him and Højlund.
We’re talking about a striker who scored 14 in 58 in Italy, 18 in 47 in Belgium, has 1 in 6 for Holland and is currently on 1 in 17 for United.
He’s just not that good.
Measuring a player ability in football based just on goals isn't "that good" an analysis.
No, but couple it with observations saying he lacks speed, agility, intensity and anything resembling a goal threat does provide you with context and more evidence
So is 1 in 17 good or bad?
He could be given a new leash of life as one of the number 10, but he needs to up the intensity in his play.
If a striker struggles to score in Italy & Belgium then he’s not going to have much hope in England. Add that to the fact he lacks so much to his game (as the above poster has pointed out) and it’s very hard to have much hope in this one.
I’m not surprised you’re defending him though. You do love to defend a hopeless Dutchman.
It's just so difficult to see what he's even for.
Whoever scouted that guy needs sacking. I can't believe just how bad our scouting has been the last two decades. We have a 10% hit rate max. Absolutely incredible to go after the wrong players so often.
The only way to make some use of a player like him - and i'm not defending him - is to pass the ball better higher up the pitch. You can utilize his movement between the lines to create numerical advantages in the wide areas, use him as a "third man" to keep circulating the ball with good tempo (and allow runners from the second line of attack to attack the final third) in the crucial central spaces and allow for interchanging positions with the players close to him. But when your best spells of possession are in your own half (or worse, in your own third) and you're constantly looking for the quick release, you need physical beasts to harass the opposition centre-halves and dynamic runners who can run the channels.
Can't see a scenario where Zirkzee is with us next season. Amorim won't have any time for his lack of effort.
Why on earth are you blaming it on scouting? Do you pay attention?
Im not defending anyone.
You and the other poster are acting like he showed the same, obvious gaping holes in his game all career which is untrue.
You've taken a difficult and poor start in the Premier League and assumed he was the same at Bologna.
Send him back to Serie A. Who the feck scouted him and thought "Yeah he looks exactly what we need, plenty of goals in him"
He's a worse version of Felliani
He's a worse version of Felliani
I think we already sacked him
Just because he was good for Bologna (as good as 14 goals in 58 games really is) doesn’t mean he’s good enough for United and the PL.
And yes, I’d imagine he displayed all the same gaping holes in Italy as he currently does in England., i,e lack of speed, agility, intensity and goal threat. Those have nothing to do with confidence.. Unless of course he does have all those traits and we’ve actually signed his twin.
The fact that he’s only played 6 times for Holland, scored 1 goal and was behind Weghorst & Depay in the pecking order this summer, despite his performances for Bologna, do also seem to suggest that he’s not that highly rated in his home country either.
Beyond a question of quality, he doesn’t have obvious strengths that make him a clear fit for a specific position. Definitely not a striker, he doesn’t have the dribbling or pace to be a winger, I’m yet to see some incisive passing or creativity that would mean he’s an effective #10. He’s physically big but weirdly not imposing, he’s slow but not super technical (like a Juan Mata).
I don’t know. You want a specific quality to jump out so you can use it.
Stats from Serie A have him being decent at progressive passing, take ons, and creating shooting opportunities. Maybe that will happen at United and he could be a decent option behind the striker. One can only hope because he hasn’t shown much of that here.
I don’t know. You want a specific quality to jump out so you can use it.
Stats from Serie A have him being decent at progressive passing, take ons, and creating shooting opportunities. Maybe that will happen at United and he could be a decent option behind the striker. One can only hope because he hasn’t shown much of that here.
Did anyone notice Bruno sarcastically clap Zirkzee after he blazed that shot over. Class haha
You're cherry picking facets of his game. Do you think he was not integral to a successful stint in Bologna? Was he not highly rated by a top coach? Do you think these things generally happen if payers aren't good?
No but if he did that's not really helpful
I’m not convinced he can up the intensity.
Will look great in a 4-4-5 formation.
He doesn’t even deserve the time. Bin him off in the summer. We have to honest with ourselves here.
He looks like a rabbit in the headlights and is shell-shocked by everything at the moment.
I don't think the pile on is fair and he needs time to adapt as I don't believe this is a true representation of him as a player - what we're seeing out there is what the spotlight does when you're not ready for it.