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Jose Mourinho Sack Watch
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Thoughts?
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I still think Mourinho can turn it around, but I'm kinda running out of excuses.
I've said for ages one of the hardest things to do and especially since the arrival of Man City as a big club is to win back to back premier league titles. It requires such a focus, such desire and such consistency. Many of their players have never won the league before last year and you could see the motivation, hunger and quality to do it. Even three quarters through the season when they were struggling they dug deep such was their motive to do it.
Now I'm not saying anything ridiculous like the players are not trying or don't want to win games. But they did not start the season with the same attitude and focus that they began last year. Mourinho should of tried to rectify this quickly by bringing in younger and more hungry players but he made very few changes and persisted with what he had and those players failed to deliver for him!
Now it's almost too late to throw the young players in - they are in a mess and he probably doesn't trust a lot of them. What's changed now from the start of the season is their mentality. They are now going into games fearful or dare I even say it expecting to lose, which is so far away from how they were treating games last season or even at the beggining of this one.
On top of that somehow the only leader they have is John Terry which is crazy considering all the experienced players they have had over their ranks in the last 24 months. Terry himself seems a little unsure of himself which can't be helping. It's the biggest test of his managerial career and one I don't think he has the answers for.
Now I'm not saying anything ridiculous like the players are not trying or don't want to win games. But they did not start the season with the same attitude and focus that they began last year. Mourinho should of tried to rectify this quickly by bringing in younger and more hungry players but he made very few changes and persisted with what he had and those players failed to deliver for him!
Now it's almost too late to throw the young players in - they are in a mess and he probably doesn't trust a lot of them. What's changed now from the start of the season is their mentality. They are now going into games fearful or dare I even say it expecting to lose, which is so far away from how they were treating games last season or even at the beggining of this one.
On top of that somehow the only leader they have is John Terry which is crazy considering all the experienced players they have had over their ranks in the last 24 months. Terry himself seems a little unsure of himself which can't be helping. It's the biggest test of his managerial career and one I don't think he has the answers for.
Been banned for a while now.
Maybe he's crap now because he's not giving her the odd roll.
I do think that if Chelsea are planning on pulling the trigger, now is the best time for them to do it. They've been in terrible form, and unless this trend continues, they're unlikely to be in a position this poor for the rest of the season, since you'd assume there'll be an upturn at some point, even if it's only to mid-table.
It would give any new manager a fantastic boost coming in. He'd literally only need to get mid-table to be regarded as having had a decent season with a title winning team.
If they continue with Mourinho but want him gone, and he suddenly wins a couple of games, any sacking may suddenly start to seem more dubious.
It would give any new manager a fantastic boost coming in. He'd literally only need to get mid-table to be regarded as having had a decent season with a title winning team.
If they continue with Mourinho but want him gone, and he suddenly wins a couple of games, any sacking may suddenly start to seem more dubious.
Shame, he was a laugh.
I liked Bob. What did he do to get the bum's rush?
This is the job Moyes is waiting for, he's an expert at getting title winning teams to mid-table.
This is kinda my feeling. New manager comes in and actually coaches some attacking football and gets a few results and we can end the season in midtable and have something positive to take into next season.
Hell, maybe a new manager can inspire us to a fluke win over PSG and make a CL run. Can honestly see us getting embarrassed by them if José stays in charge.
I think he was taking the piss mate. Allardyce genuinely believes himself to be a top boss or at least he's got a very dry sense of humour.
He'd be the fecking England manager if the FA could use PowerPoint!
(Genuine Sam quote)
I knew the first part of that quote but the PowerPoint bit is new to me. Classic!
He lost a bet.
There's a touch of the Dr Evil about Ranieri there.
Ive heard a theory that theres something big happened to one of the players, something like being diagnosed with a serious illness. They all know it and its affecting their concentration, and Abramovich knows it too, which is why hes leaving Mourinho alone at the moment.
Whatever it is, its obviously more than just a dip in form or Mourinho's third season syndrome.
Whatever it is, its obviously more than just a dip in form or Mourinho's third season syndrome.
If that was it, Mourinho won't have kept throwing them under the bus.
I think it's more like many of our players have grown tired of his tactics, style, and harsh personality. It was fine when we were winning but now we're struggling the players just don't respond to it.
No other way to explain an entire squad of players who were either in the team of the season or had a case to be have gone completely shit virtually overnight. They just aren't buying into the "Mourinho way" anymore. Willian being the only real exception.
Hazard, Costa, Fabregas, Matic, Ivanovic, and Terry were the best in their positions in the PL last season. Now they've suddenly become terrible? You can somewhat excuse Ivanovic and Terry as they're getting on in age but the others have no excuses. They've stopped playing for the manager.
It's Mourinho third season syndrome.
He falls out with some players refuses to bring through youth and doesn't have the budget he had earlier.
He falls out with some players refuses to bring through youth and doesn't have the budget he had earlier.
Maybe it's a Chelsea thing and not just a Mourinho thing? Based on @Orc 's tagline, his act fell apart in the third season too.
Sounds a bit far-fetched. You look at their squad and they're all getting games apart from Falcao who's got a muscle injury, so it would have to be a very strange illness that was serious enough to make them all go to shit, yet not serious enough to stop the guy from playing. (Unless it's that defender they bought on deadline day who Mourinho doesn't even seem to remember that he has at the club)
The board in the summer straight up telling José to "do it again with the same squad" has certainly contributed to this terrible season. Also buying a bunch of random, unknown pub players that no one has ever heard of in a panic.
He had several top class targets and the board completely failed in securing a single one. The cracks were appearing as last season ended and rather than addressing them the club just thought "ah, after they've had a nice summer holiday they'll return to the form of the first half of last season."
When you win a title you should never, EVER be complacent. We did that and that's one of several reasons we're utter shit now.
You should always strengthen after winning a title or it can cause you to lose out on it next season but 1-10 points but when your best players in their prime turn shit over the space of 2-3 months? you can't blame it on transfers.
He is pretty much a very typical British managers in the mould of Pulis, Pardew, Redknap, Moyes and co. Their idea or philosophy or whatever you wanna call it is to make the team solid through getting big solid players at the back and trying to buy skilful players to get the job done up top. It is a simple old fashioned style which can be very effective especially in England and he happens to be one of the best at it.
Only a matter of time until Maureen is gone. He seems to have completely lost the dressing room. Either Maureen or the entire squad has to go.
I've seen the same problem at United long enough to know. Rooney hasn't run his hardest since the day he signed his last contract. Mata has two gears, stop and slow. Di Maria didn't want to run anymore after two months of being hacked at last season. Darmian seems too terrified of LVG to make the bursting runs he reeled off when he first arrived, and his defending isn't his strength. Carrick can't run, which isn't really his fault, if he's going to play then other will have to do extra running to make up for him. Herrera gets injured when a spot opens up for him though he's happy to run, and Young as well. That's about it.
The problem is far deeper than transfers. Last year after 16 games Chelsea were 1st with 39 points (12/3/1) with 36GF and 13GA. This season after 16 games Chelsea are 16th with 15 points (4/3/9) with 18GF and 26GA.
You cannot tell me that the departures of Drogba, Cuadrado, Filipe Luis, Cech, T. Hazard, Romeru and the arrivals of Pedro, Rahman, Begovic, Falcao, and Kenedy are the difference of 24 points over 16 games and the difference between 1 lose and 9. Chelsea's new arrivals haven't been spectacular but at the same time their departures weren't great loses when you consider Drogba was somewhat of a spent force, Cuadrado and Luis disappointed, they have a keeper of equal talent in Courtois and T. Hazard and Romeru never made an impact.
I'm with you on than complacency after a title win is a terrible attitude to have, especially considering the current European pantheon, however while they didn't particularly strengthen they didn't particularly get worse (in terms of general squad talent on day one) either. Considering their performance-ceiling last year and the improvements made by other teams and their current performances you'd at the very least expect this Chelsea team to be within the top four if not challenging for the title again. They'd be far from a safe bet for title winner but they should have been in the mix.
I don't have an answer for Chelsea's current predicament but their summer transfers aren't the primary reason. The squad is severely under performing and Mourinho's tactics simply aren't working. Yes they should have strengthened but this current crop of squad and staff have dropped the ball on a monumental scale so far this season and something has got to give.
There is no logical explanation for what is happening with Chelsea this season. We will not get a clear picture about what happened until the guys on the squad start coming out with autobiographies.
I thought its far fetched too, but i dont think simply not liking the tactics is enough. The players are too good to be down where they are now just because they dont like the way Mourinho wants them to play.
Maybe Terry's been at it again with one of the other wives.
Guys, I said transfers were one of many reasons we're in this position, not the sole or even the primary reason.
I'll be surprised if he lasts the season, that interview was bad.
I still think Chelsea would be stupid to let him go.
Edit : The fallout here if LvG was performing the same as Mourinho is now...
Edit : The fallout here if LvG was performing the same as Mourinho is now...
His "I don't know another way" tidbit reminds me of the "what do we have to do to win?" from moyes after we lost to stoke.
This season has been so damaging for mourinho, it's hard to see where his next step would be if he gets sacked, probably valencia.
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