Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

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As am I, however, I feel if it were any other manager, they won't be nearly as accepting.

Of course not but that comes with the success he's had with the club and his proven credentials overall. You don't just sack a guy of his quality that easily and a guy who has dominated the BPL.
 
José Mourinho said:
“I had a game a few days ago where I stood for 90 minutes in my own technical area. The other manager [Liverpool’s Jürgen Klopp] was jumping like Michael Jordan and nothing happened. So, for me, I know everything is different.

The Guardian said:
The Portuguese will not be in attendance at the Britannia Stadium after he was sent off for twice refusing to leave the referee Jon Moss’s dressing room at Upton Park last month. The written reasons behind the three-man disciplinary commission’s decision revealed he had accused the officials of being “f*cking weak” and had to be escorted away by a member of West Ham United’s security staff.

Yeah, there's no difference between Klopp's behaviour and his own. Obviously it's an FA-led vendetta. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, there's no difference between Klopp's behaviour and his own. Obviously it's an FA-led vendetta. :rolleyes:

I could have actually been convinced that he could have kept his job through this but his complete (and ongoing) meltdown just makes me think it's just a matter of time before he's sacked. I can't see it ending any other way and I doubt he'll learn anything from it.
 
Crazy the extent to which Josie is taking this media/referee conspiracy nonsense. Fergie and Wenger have had their moments but both knew when to draw the line, and that's when your public statements become counter productive. Mourinho is so far past that point that's it hard to believe that it's just a siege mentality gone wrong. He's coming across as more concerned with challenging outsiders than fixing the problems within his team
 
Whoever it was in the United boardroom who was banging the "he's not a good fit for United" drum (am I correct in thinking it was Sir Bobby?) must be feeling fairly smug right about now.

Whatever about Van Gaal's tactics and eccentricities, he never shirks responsibility or looks to throw his crap at the wall when a result gets away. He's been nothing but class, to the extent that sometimes you want him to have a go at a referee!
 
Roman and the fans should be patient in this scenario and let him have this season. Roman of all people should know the revolving door policy does not work as you are then left with hardly any good options. Having said that Mou needs to be humble. But we all know that it won't happen. He would be all smug by the end of season if he is not fired and believe he is untouchable. The absence of humility in him makes it harder to like him.
 
Roman and the fans should be patient in this scenario and let him have this season. Roman of all people should know the revolving door policy does not work as you are then left with hardly any good options. Having said that Mou needs to be humble. But we all know that it won't happen. He would be all smug by the end of season if he is not fired and believe he is untouchable. The absence of humility in him makes it harder to like him.
Frank Lampard made a good point on MNF however; Chelsea have had success despite having loads of managers with frequent turnover, and won the Champions League during one of their most turbulent spells (with Roberto Di Mafeckintteo as manager, if I remember right?). Not saying it would be right to sack Mourinho, just that Abramovich could probably point to Chelsea's success and say the rotating door hasn't served them too badly.
 
Frank Lampard made a good point on MNF however; Chelsea have had success despite having loads of managers with frequent turnover, and won the Champions League during one of their most turbulent spells (with Roberto Di Mafeckintteo as manager, if I remember right?). Not saying it would be right to sack Mourinho, just that Abramovich could probably point to Chelsea's success and say the rotating door hasn't served them too badly.

They also made the CL final with Avram Grant and won the Europa league with Rafa. Plus the likes of Bayern and Barca have had significant manager turnover over the years and I think many would consider them the most well run clubs in Europe right now.
 
Frank Lampard made a good point on MNF however; Chelsea have had success despite having loads of managers with frequent turnover, and won the Champions League during one of their most turbulent spells (with Roberto Di Mafeckintteo as manager, if I remember right?). Not saying it would be right to sack Mourinho, just that Abramovich could probably point to Chelsea's success and say the rotating door hasn't served them too badly.

Yes, if anything they have been consistent in sacking managers who haven't delivered what was promised or expected irrespective of who the person is. I did not expect them to give DiMatteo a shot at it but they did after he won the CL so its not like they only go for high profile managers either.

This policy creates a lot on instability and meaningless confusion and not to mention a results in a huge waste of money but the same policy has enabled them to maintain their standards - season after season.
 
Frank Lampard made a good point on MNF however; Chelsea have had success despite having loads of managers with frequent turnover, and won the Champions League during one of their most turbulent spells (with Roberto Di Mafeckintteo as manager, if I remember right?). Not saying it would be right to sack Mourinho, just that Abramovich could probably point to Chelsea's success and say the rotating door hasn't served them too badly.

Does this mean the players have been so good that it doesn't matter for Chelsea which manager they have? Just thinking this aloud.

Also does this mean their form has been so shite this time around is because majority of the players have been out of form and Jose has not been able to do anything about it?
 
They also made the CL final with Avram Grant and won the Europa league with Rafa. Plus the likes of Bayern and Barca have had significant manager turnover over the years and I think many would consider them the most well run clubs in Europe right now.

True indeed! Really, Mourinho's lagging behind in that sense. ;)

Yes, if anything they have been consistent in sacking managers who haven't delivered what was promised or expected irrespective of who the person is. I did not expect them to give DiMatteo a shot at it but they did after he won the CL so its not like they only go for high profile managers either.

This policy creates a lot on instability and meaningless confusion and not to mention a results in a huge waste of money but the same policy has enabled them to maintain their standards - season after season.

It is true, and I guess the money wasted is the main reason why other clubs kinda have to stick by managers (in theory) for longer than 8 months at a time. Gary Neville can't have been happy inside when Lampard made exactly that point, when Nev's been banging the drum for stability louder than anyone!

Does this mean the players have been so good that it doesn't matter for Chelsea which manager they have? Just thinking this aloud.

Also does this mean their form has been so shite this time around is because majority of the players have been out of form and Jose has not been able to do anything about it?

I think one big difference between that team and this one is that the last Chelsea iteration had a number of strong personalities - Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Ballack, Ashley Cole, Cech - and perhaps this iteration either doesn't have enough of those kind of players or they haven't grown into those sort of personalities yet. It could explain why one team could succeed despite continual change and another seems to be folding far too quickly.

Besides that, the defensive structure Mourinho would like is not there. Terry has no pace so they have to play deep, and their defensive midfielders are Matic and Ramires. They don't have the players to grind out results. The mystery is that they did exactly that for the second half of last season, so I must be talking shite!
 
True indeed! Really, Mourinho's lagging behind in that sense. ;)



It is true, and I guess the money wasted is the main reason why other clubs kinda have to stick by managers (in theory) for longer than 8 months at a time. Gary Neville can't have been happy inside when Lampard made exactly that point, when Nev's been banging the drum for stability louder than anyone!



I think one big difference between that team and this one is that the last Chelsea iteration had a number of strong personalities - Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Ballack, Ashley Cole, Cech - and perhaps this iteration either doesn't have enough of those kind of players or they haven't grown into those sort of personalities yet. It could explain why one team could succeed despite continual change and another seems to be folding far too quickly.

Besides that, the defensive structure Mourinho would like is not there. Terry has no pace so they have to play deep, and their defensive midfielders are Matic and Ramires. They don't have the players to grind out results. The mystery is that they did exactly that for the second half of last season, so I must be talking shite!

I thought the same about the stability and the strong mentalities of the players that were there during their first chop and change. Barring Terry, who is also not able to win a place in the side, I do not see any strong leadership mentalities in the squad. When things start going bad, it's individuals who we see on the field.

Talking about Terry, I think Jose wanted to phase him out slowly this season and give the mantle to Zouma and Cahill going ahead. Although Zouma has looked quite good, constant change in his position (CB, RB, CDM) means he too has not been able to concentrate on one aspect of the game. Should Jose had given Terry a consistent run throughout this season and phase him out at the end of the season with Zouma coming in to fill the slot or do we think this stand of doing it right at the beginning made sense? (Not to forget Terry's shabby form might have also made Jose take the latter call)
 
If Chelski hammer Stoke today with the Speckled One locked in the toilet, are we entitled to draw conclusions?
 
Yes, if he is actually locked in the toilet.
Doesn't have to be the actual stadium toilet. He's barred from there, technically speaking. Any good pubs with nice toilets (from which you can hear the telly) near the Britannia?
 
We're talking Stoke here...
That's that then. But what should Jose do for the afternoon? Go shopping, buy a bit of pottery, maybe get an inscribed mug? Check out the Monkey Forest? Stay on the bus and follow the game in the Caf? on a dodgy river?
Couldn't he just get a blimp and just fly above the stadium?
Who would hold onto the rope?
 
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That's that then. But what should Jose do for the afternoon? Go shopping, buy a bit of pottery, maybe get an inscribed mug? Check out the Monkey Forest? Stay on the bus and follow the game in the Caf?
Seriously, what's the procedure for a manager serving a stadium ban? Presumably, he wil travel up on the team coach. But he's not allowed in "the footprint" of the ground. So he just hangs back in the hotel texting instructions to the bench? Are they even permitted to make such contact?
 
Seriously, what's the procedure for a manager serving a stadium ban? Presumably, he wil travel up on the team coach. But he's not allowed in "the footprint" of the ground. So he just hangs back in the hotel texting instructions to the bench? Are they even permitted to make such contact?
Er, excuse me, but would you mind terribly turning the TV channel over. That's an old episode of Judge Judy anyway, there's a football game on... No, not that one. That's Arsene's Arsenal... You are too kind... Oh, Doctors... Very good. Ha, ha... Eh, no. The other kind of football...
 
Seriously, what's the procedure for a manager serving a stadium ban? Presumably, he wil travel up on the team coach. But he's not allowed in "the footprint" of the ground. So he just hangs back in the hotel texting instructions to the bench? Are they even permitted to make such contact?
He is going to have to watch it on the telly. Somewhere quiet. Telly solidly fixed to the wall. Who will the pundit on the commentary team be? Will they be conscious that the Speckled One is listening in, live? Will Siri transmit his messages correctly to the bench? Watch out for expressions of puzzlement in the dugout.
 
They've not been too bad, but are losing once more. Mourinho is banned from the stadium... just :lol:. Relegation form from last year's champions. No way they make top four imo.
 
Will probably get sacked now, but Chelsea were clearly the better side, hit the post, should've had a penalty and still lost. It makes you wonder how much of that is the manager's fault. I hadn't seen Chelsea play in a few weeks and they've massively improved. They were really poor early on, but were great today, so it can't really be the manager's fault.
 
I said this a couple of weeks ago, but Mourinho staying is actually a good thing for the rest of us. I no longer get suprised when they lose. I remember when they were playing Southampton at home, and I heard they had gone in front. I still felt confident that they would still lose. Chelsea , under Mourinho at home! In previous seasons that would have had me institutionalized.
 
Sacking him would still be wrong, mind you.

Chelsea are best writing off the season and planning new purchases for the summer.
 
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