Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

Your stance

  • Top manager in charge of a major rebuild. Needs more time and/or money.

    Votes: 684 43.8%

  • Made improvements but we've stagnated. Sack him if we drop out of top 4

    Votes: 377 24.1%

  • He's not the right fit. Sack him and get someone else who can get more out of our squad

    Votes: 502 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,563
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I don't really understand why certain users feel such a need to polarize the debate. I'm not sure what the reasons are, if it's an inability to argue points without misrepresenting what others are writing, this straw man debate is somewhat boring and unintelligent.

The point that is being made is that we aren't playing well, and that our football is a bit shit. Using goals scored as a counter-argument is the obvious choice for some, I'd argue that goals scored isn't really a good way to prove anything, which can easily be shown by looking at the match against Everton, where we were dire and barely hanging on to a one goal lead when Everton gifted us our second goal in the 84th min and the floodgates opened.

For me it's simple. If we celebrate winning the league at the end of the season, I wouldn't be less bothered about how we've played to get there. Imho, we're unlikely to reach such a point due the our current style (or lack of). Our football is unimaginative, we're too static with slow passing and we often end up hoofing it up to Lukaku and hoping for the best.

If it's due to missing Pogba in central midfield and we'll gradually improve our overall performances once he's back, could be. If we're able to gradually build on victories by playing better and better, we'll hopefully unlock the potential of Lukaku, Rashford and Martial.

The safe approach vs Spurs in itself isn't a problem, but when you consider our completed pass stat of 70% for the first half it's hardly a pretty picture.
 
I would like Mourinho to explain why he's so reluctant to play 4-3-3. I recognise he likes 4-2-3-1 but he's always been a pragmatic manager. He must surely see how most sides outnumber us in midfield, and end up bossing us, simply by flooding the centre of the pitch with bodies.

At the start of the season he changed so many matches by bringing on Fellaini and/or Herrera alongside Matic and Pogba, so he must see the problem. Why won't he act to correct it now? Especially with none of our #10s in any real form.
 
#07 said:
I would like Mourinho to explain why he's so reluctant to play 4-3-3. I recognise he likes 4-2-3-1 but he's always been a pragmatic manager. He must surely see how most sides outnumber us in midfield, and end up bossing us, simply by flooding the centre of the pitch with bodies.

At the start of the season he changed so many matches by bringing on Fellaini and/or Herrera alongside Matic and Pogba, so he must see the problem. Why won't he act to correct it now? Especially with none of our #10s in any real form.
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Well, it's clear why. Herrera played against Swansea, Matic was rested. Both played on the weekend. Today, Matic started and Herrera was rested. I'm sure if he had Fellaini, Pogba and/or Carrick, we'd have played 3 in midfield.
 
Restoring the feeling?

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Unbeaten at home in 38 games doesnt count because we play negative football
 
We are a much better side than many give credit for. It is very hard to score against us. And that includes the goals conceded due to lindelof this season (atleast 4 i can think of). We are not complete yet but we are not more than 2-3 signings away from being complete. I would say the balance in most games is very good, we generally generate enough chances to score and restrict the opponent to the odd few chances. The team can go yet go up a gear but the season is long and now isn't the time to peak. If mou can keep the hunger and aggression in the side up which his style needs we will do well.
 
#07 said:
I would like Mourinho to explain why he's so reluctant to play 4-3-3. I recognise he likes 4-2-3-1 but he's always been a pragmatic manager. He must surely see how most sides outnumber us in midfield, and end up bossing us, simply by flooding the centre of the pitch with bodies.

At the start of the season he changed so many matches by bringing on Fellaini and/or Herrera alongside Matic and Pogba, so he must see the problem. Why won't he act to correct it now? Especially with none of our #10s in any real form.
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He doesn't want to play 3 in midfield because he prefers the opponent to think they can beat us in midfield and come out and press rather than sit deep against us. If you come out and play against us we will be able to find space to score alot easier than some unambitious 10 behind the ball team especially when we don't have Fellaini or pogba to join lukaku in the box. Besides without the ball our wide players become very narrow and squeeze the midfield so it's not like we get over run.
 
Smores said:
They can't even claim that really, our home goals record is pretty impressive as it has been across Jose's career.
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You gotta be fair here, he plays for the draw and our goals were masking our performances. We all know goals happen out of thin air and don't require good play to achieve.
 
Wow, reached the quarter mark and the results way surpassed Moyes and van gaal ever achieved. And I would say better than some SAF seasons. Only problem is our noisy neighbours are on top form, if not we are nail on favourites for the title.
 
Listar said:
Wow, reached the quarter mark and the results way surpassed Moyes and van gaal ever achieved. And I would say better than some SAF seasons. Only problem is our noisy neighbours are on top form, if not we are nail on favourites for the title.
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Funny fact is LVG won only 54 games in 2 season. Mourinho currently won 50 and we're still in third month of his second season season.

Just how terrible we were in results under LVG. May these days never return.
 
Listar said:
Wow, reached the quarter mark and the results way surpassed Moyes and van gaal ever achieved. And I would say better than some SAF seasons. Only problem is our noisy neighbours are on top form, if not we are nail on favourites for the title.
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I think that's the issue. We've had a very good start to the season, especially with our best player out for some crucial games. People are just antsy because City are on fire.
 
Womp said:
I think that's the issue. We've had a very good start to the season, especially with our best player out for some crucial games. People are just antsy because City are on fire.
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There's no issue. There are 0 issue beside people that like to complain just because they want to. There's always someone at the back of the room picking something bad to say. The problem is that in the last games all people in the room started agreeing with them.
 
The Mirror says he wants a £3m a year pay rise on his current £12m a year salary.



Jamie Jackson also had a similar story back in October
 
United_We_Stand said:
The Mirror says he wants a £3m a year pay rise on his current £12m a year salary.



Jamie Jackson also had a similar story back in October
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Win us the champions league and PL this season and you can have your pay rise.

That should be the bare minimum every season for any manager being paid 15 million a year.
 
We need to include a maximum compensation figure in any new contract of that size. Like £2 million a year for every year left on the contract or something.
 
Garethw said:
Win us the champions league and PL this season and you can have your pay rise.

That should be the bare minimum every season for any manager being paid 15 million a year.
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What if two managers are paid that sum? How does that work?
 
SirAF said:
What if two managers are paid that sum? How does that work?
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I guess one of them is going to end up with an upset chairman.

Any manager being paid £1.25 million a month will be expected to win the biggest prizes consistently.
 
Better than expected this week and much better than last season at Chelsea obviously. Better passing and we might be ahead.
 
Imo incorrect team selection by starting Mkhi, and when he had a chance to make a change at half time bringing on Fellaini for Mkhitaryan he chose not to.

We still have a chance but I feel Mourinho got this wrong.
 
I still think he’s doing fine with what he’s got. We’re lacking four or five players, you’re only as good as your weakest link and we have a couple of them.
 
He is playing mkhi for the sake of it. I admire him playing 2 strikers but he cannot keep on playing mkhi.
 
Horrible horrible football. He still has a lot to prove this season.
 
We are simply not good enough to win a title.

And havent looked like that for 4 years now.

A top 3 with 80 plus points will be good enough this season.(and would be our best effort in years)

A lot of it fans simply need a dose of realism. We are far away from being as good as we once where.
 
Our non-existing attacking intent and resulting panicky hoof balls leaves strong team we are playing against free to push up high, completely besieging is, and eventually ending with us conceding.

How many times do we have to see the same story repeat itself away against top teams before Mourinho learns and tries something else? It’s like fecking Groundhog Day.
 
El Zoido said:
I still think he’s doing fine with what he’s got. We’re lacking four or five players, you’re only as good as your weakest link and we have a couple of them.
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I keep hearing this. Who is out other than Pogba? Is our master plan to rely on bloody Marouine Fellaini? We have a good football and we're playing rubbish football in recent times. Jose needs to get his act together.
 
First names on the sheet are those that can hoof the ball the furthest, first names on the bench sheet are those who are the most technical...
 
At present, we're on 4 points out of our last 12 and the predictable downturn in results was always going to happen - too bad people were getting carried away with flukey 4-0 wins at the arse end of a few games against the worst sides in the league.

I've been calling it for weeks. This is no better than Van Gaal.
 
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