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I think he's protecting his most important attacking player after it got rowdy. Quite sensible too, given Lukaku is out injured and we've got a cup final to prepare for.

He had Martial on the bench. Why not sub him in?
 
Nothing game, 5 at the back, no strikers and time wasting defensive subs in the last seconds of injury time. Mourinho.
 
And we risk losing Pogba, Martial and the likes for this guys bullshittery... nah.

They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal. Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.
 
Deserves another year for sure but we must improve. We are just useless when counter attacking and even more useless from build up play. Of course having passengers like Pogba and Lingard in the team doesn't help but still we should be able to do better than that.
 
He had Martial on the bench. Why not sub him in?

I guess the answer to that according to a lot of people is because Jose's negative and doesn't want to play football. I don't know the answer, but I thought it was sensible to sub off Sanchez at the time.
 
I guess the answer to that according to a lot of people is because Jose's negative and doesn't want to play football. I don't know the answer, but I thought it was sensible to sub off Sanchez at the time.

I'm not even arguing whether it was a right call to bring off Sanchez or not.
 
They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal. Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.

Our centre backs are much better than Brighton or West Ham defenders. So there’s no reason to be conservative.
 
They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal. Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.
Pretty much it in a nutshell.

Our highest finish since Fergie left, but all anyone wants to do is whinge incessantly that their God-given right to be entertained isn't being fulfilled. Next season with a better rounded, quality-heavy squad, the football quite simply IS going to improve. I don't think our (caf) fans deserve it but it's what they'll get.
 
Positive: Jose knows that he has only this summer to fix things. And this window is short
 
He had Martial on the bench. Why not sub him in?

Well Martial hasn’t done what Mou has asked of him recently - Jose speaks a lot about trust. He wanted to see the last few minutes out - Young works his bollocks off.
 
Says everything you need to know when he's making subs to get a goalless draw against West Ham. No amount of transfers will change his mentality, he's just so uninspiring. I can't see him changing next season, can't see us just magically switching it on.

He'll win the FA Cup and everything will be rosey though.
 
At least challenge for it?

Contrary to belief, we do have the second best squad in the league. Mourinho was happy with the squad last summer and said we would challenge for the title, yet we were out of the race at the start of december. It's been lame.
Challenge for a 100 points?
 
They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal.
Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.

Jesus and you have the cheek to call other people blinkered. This is flat-out nonsense.
 
Well Martial hasn’t done what Mou has asked of him recently - Jose speaks a lot about trust. He wanted to see the last few minutes out - Young works his bollocks off.

Alright but I expect a Manchester United manager to go for a win especially against a team like West Ham. Sending Young doesn't exactly scream going for the win.
 
We've been insipid since the Spurs game, and insipid since the City game in the league.

We've also had virtually nothing to play for, and it's a World Cup year. These half-hearted performances are happening up and down the country (or probably more accurately up and down the continent) at the minute. As long as we get up for the final I don't really care, and if the criteria for managers keeping their jobs is getting their players up for dead rubbers then there's an awful lot of sackings coming.
 
Well Martial hasn’t done what Mou has asked of him recently - Jose speaks a lot about trust. He wanted to see the last few minutes out - Young works his bollocks off.

That's not it really. You're over thinking it, he went for the safe choice and he was happy with the draw.
 
Yes it's the point because his football is boring. You put up with the boring football and drama in order to achieve great things which was important for United after Fergie retired. When the big titles aren't even close to being challenged, then why put up with boring football and all the drama that comes with Mou?
Because the "entertaining" managers around we could get don't win anything.
 
That's not it really. You're over thinking it, he went for the safe choice and he was happy with the draw.

I’m not overthinking it. It’s clear as day. Mou wanted a disciplined last few minutes. Martial isn’t disciplined. It’s youth, it’s his form.
 
He's not wrong at all with that second paragraph to be fair.

The club wasn't rotten to the core. We had won the FA Cup before Mourinho joined, finished level on points with City in the league.

The idea that we're playing Mourinho-ball because if we didn't we'd get torn apart is based on sweet fcuk all. Centre-backs are an issue in terms of reliability - not quality in my opinion (they're good enough to support an attacking side).
 
When we finish 4th and 5th and even 6th like last season, everyone is whinging saying we need to win games and finish higher in the league.

As soon as we are higher in the league then people start whinging about “attractive football”. We can’t have everything happen at once. Some very spoilt fans on here.

We have progressed and hopefully next season we start to see some better football.
 
They are flakey as feck to be honest.

He signed Lindelof regardless.

He’s had Smalling and Jones for two seasons now. He didn’t need two seasons to make a decision on them. He’s also been a premier league manager before he arrived here, so would have known Smalling is awful on the ball and Jones is rash and injury prone.
 
When we finish 4th and 5th and even 6th like last season, everyone is whinging saying we need to win games and finish higher in the league.

As soon as we are higher in the league then people start whinging about “attractive football”. We can’t have everything happen at once. Some very spoilt fans on here.

We have progressed and hopefully next season we start to see some better football.

What a bizzare post. Its possible to play attractive football and still finish higher up the table.
 
Playing for a point against West Ham is unacceptable. Even if he built a great squad, and there's no guarantee of that, his overly defensive mentality will always be there.

As successful as he's been I don't think he's right for us.
 
He signed Lindelof regardless.

He’s had Smalling and Jones for two seasons now. He didn’t need two seasons to make a decision on them. He’s also been a premier league manager before he arrived here, so would have known Smalling is awful on the ball and Jones is rash and injury prone.

It's quite possible that none of our CBs are up to it. Unfortunately we are where we are - can't buy 4 central defenders this summer.
 
What a bizzare post. Its possible to play attractive football and still finish higher up the table.

Honestly is bizarre. How dare we ask for attacking football against the mighty West Ham when we have nothing to play for. Jose needs another 200m+
 
He signed Lindelof regardless.

He’s had Smalling and Jones for two seasons now. He didn’t need two seasons to make a decision on them. He’s also been a premier league manager before he arrived here, so would have known Smalling is awful on the ball and Jones is rash and injury prone.

It’s phazed. Jose has to work with what he has, improve main areas first and address the rest as and when he can. Selling 8 players and getting in 7 in one sitting can bring as much if not more damage.

Lindelof and Bailly are young - defenders always tend to find their feet slower in this aggressive league. Smalling and Jones have no composure and are liabilities - and those 2 are our senior CBs!
 
What a bizzare post. Its possible to play attractive football and still finish higher up the table.

Not bizarre at all considering you chose one part of it out of context. We improved in the league which is what people wanted, and then they decide to whinge about something else. Patience is required as no one should expect too much so soon. The team has improved in the league, so hopefully the next thing to improve is the football.
 
They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal. Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.

I'm not sure this is true. The fact that he's still got so much support despite serving up months of almost unwatchable football shows that people do realise just how bad things have been. We all agree that we've improved under Jose and based on that fact alone he deserves more time.

I just think some people are getting close to saturation point for how much crap football they can handle before they just need some relief. I'm absolutely sick of looking forward to games for days then spending 90 minutes trying to stop myself from looking at my phone. As somebody who loves United and loves football I have to honestly admit the thought of another season of this fills me with dread. Even if we win more games it most likely isn't going to be any craic to watch.

Personally I don't think it will ever be great under Jose and I can't ever see it being entertaining so while he probably deserves more time my preference would be to move on and try something that's more in the true United tradition.
 
Honestly is bizarre. How dare we ask for attacking football against the mighty West Ham when we have nothing to play for. Jose needs another 200m+

I bet you were whinging about finishing 6th last season. 2nd and crap football is better than 6th and crap football. It is also better than Liverpool in 4th and good football. Some people expect too much sometimes and either just want a quick fix or just like to criticise Mourinho for everything.
 
They’re doing that all by themselves.

Football is poor - but some of our players attitudes stink as well.

Our club was rotten to the core from board to underage - through years of neglect and The Moyes appointment to LvG selling average players to replace them with even more average players.

With this squad - if we played open football we’d be ripped a part like Arsenal. Zero faith in Smalling, Jones or Lindelof currently. Sure Jose is more reserved anyway - but at times he has to be since our options defensively are piss poor.

Next season is a make or break one for sure. But people wanting him out now are blinkered vision, forgetting what a shitshow we were before he arrived.
eh....

our club was rotten to the core? Jose has a squad of professionals who have won leagues. He's spent over 250 million on top players. He's inherited some fantastic young players in Martial, Rashford, Tuanzebe, Fosu Mensah. He has the worlds best goalkeeper.

Pogba does not look like the player he did at Juve under Jose. Mhiki was a fraction of the player he was at Dortmund. Lukaku would need to score 9 goals to match what he scored at fecking Everton to match his goal record there. Lindelof was a big signing - why hasn't he played. Sanchez has been ok at best. These are all the men Jose turned to and none of them have made a major impact at United compared to where they were previously.

You think this is the players? they suddenly arrive at United and are lesser players or do you think it has something to do with Jose, his attitude, his coaching and his tactics.

I know what I think
 
I bet you were whinging about finishing 6th last season. 2nd and crap football is better than 6th and crap football. It is also better than Liverpool in 4th and good football. Some people expect too much sometimes and either just want a quick fix or just like to criticise Mourinho for everything.
honest question

have you enjoyed this season apart from a few matches against Liverpool/City/Spurs?
 
There's no way that'll be happening this summer. Top 4 and a run at the Cup will have Woodward and the Glazers dancing round the boardroom.
I know and I'm resigned to that. I just don't see the quality of football being any better under him next season.
 
honest question

have you enjoyed this season apart from a few matches against Liverpool/City/Spurs?

We were very enjoyable in the first half of the season. Then we started getting some frequent injuries in midfield and hit some bad form towards Xmas/January.

I remember the frequent games where we would net 4 goals up until we lost to Huddersfield away.
 
Because the "entertaining" managers around we could get don't win anything.

I have a problem with this reasoning. I mean Guardiola didn’t exactly have a cabinet full of trophies before getting the nod, nor did Zidane. I’m talking managerial trophies, and not some “he coached the b team” stuff. Also, chances are we have resources that the clubs these managers are currently at don’t have.

And it’s not like we are out here ugly winning and lifting important trophies. We are a b tier cup competition team, that looks eons away from being able to compete for the most coveted trophies. I reckon a good amount of these entertaining managers would likely, at the very least, reach those standards, only in a more eye pleasing way. I mean how long are people gonna run with this “Mourinho is a winner” thing to excuse this soul draining shite that we have to watch regularly.
 
I bet you were whinging about finishing 6th last season. 2nd and crap football is better than 6th and crap football. It is also better than Liverpool in 4th and good football. Some people expect too much sometimes and either just want a quick fix or just like to criticise Mourinho for everything.

Liverpool are in the fecking CL final with their style of football. It's not a quick fix. People are looking for some progression in terms of the game itself and not only results. Jose has been here for two years, spent a shit load and can't even get the players to play some decent football.
 
We wont sack him, but i cant wait to see United play attacking football again. Another season of this tumescent shit will hopefully be enough til we realise he is a goner. Made my mind up since the Sevilla tie that i want him gone
 
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