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So many come backs against the top sides this season. Fantastic.

You have to wonder though why seemingly only start playing when going behind?
 
Was a good cup tie. Nullified Spurs well.

Think Lingard should have been hooked way earlier though.

As a side note, thought his antics on the sideline was entertaining today.
 
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I really wish I could convince my self that Jose is the man for us, but I can't, all I see is a manager whos most comfortable style is one that doesn't fit us, a manger who as yet has no longevity at clubs, and one who seems to be keen to sell our best players becasue he can't get the best from them. If I truly thought he was in it for the long haul, and had the ability (or will) to change our playing style to one that we all want to see, then I'd be in, but he won't.

If there's 'progress' then it's marginal, and not really through anything special from the manager, more so the weight of money been spent has dragged us up the league in a poor season for Arsenal and Chelsea, lets not forget we could yet finish fourth.

I think alot of people are convincing themselves that they are seeing something that isn't there, and accepting us been dull as something to be tolerated if we grind it out a lot of the time, and more worryingly thinking the prospect of selling some of our best players as a good idea.

The progress has been much more than Marginal, we've now beaten Liverpool/Chelsea/City and Spurs all within what, 6 weeks? Going from 6th to 2nd is clearly progress but jose haters will continue to frame it as 13 points behind the leaders while completely ignoring the leaders are breaking records.

The one thing that I am certain won't change next season under Mou is our attacking play. Looking at the shit attacking displays over the past 2 seasons have me convinced its not the players. People can make all the excuses they want about needing more fullbacks and more midfielders and Mou can keep talking shite about players not listening to his instructions but I'm certain that by next season our attack will still be crap majority of the time. Will probably improve slightly depending on who we get but ultimately not close to as good as they could be

And what happened in the performances before Jose arrived? He's scored more goals than any manager since Fergie.

Finishing in an insignificant second place, while playing inconsistent football and winning less trophies than last season. Is not a great improvement.

6th to 2nd is clear progress and the consistency has improved as well otherwise we'd be outside the top 4. We won more trophies last season because the Europa league is marginally easier to win than the champions league, it's almost as if some of you just go out of your way to be dishonest about our situation.

Really feel this summer will define Jose era at United. He seems to have lost Pogba and Martial and unlike like last season, there will be a lot of uncertainty surrounding the club. Not only about Jose but our players. If he gets it right we compete for the title and while there will always be United fans that are anti-Mourinho and his play style, results will keep them quiet. Get it wrong and lose the players, then I can easily see another season similar to his final at Chelsea.

Pogba sure does look like he's given up on Mourinho these last few weeks.... yawn.

They are not better, they are less complicated to use for the manager. You don't want him looking for user manuals

Matic is far superior to Herrera.

No disrespect but some of you lots sound pathetic. We're going to finish 16 points off the top of the league while Liverpool and Spurs are breathing down our necks despite spending an unbelievable amount.

Such a loser's mentality to be all accepting being behind in second but one quick look at the table we are 16 POINTS off the leaders. It's freaking sad to hear people even being content with such garbage.

Our points total is level or better than almost half of SAF title winning teams. No premier league team in history would be on par to stay with this City team.

Just reading through this thread and I’m genuinely shocked that there are United fans who want Mourinho sacked.

You’re second in a league where the team at the top is having a freakishly strong season and you have a chance of winning your third trophy in two seasons.

I don’t understand what the people wanting Mourinho to go are hoping for. Is it just about playing attractive football like City/Liverpool do?

They're appalling "fans" who should just quit and watch another sport.

Judging by the fact that Mourinho claimed that going out in the last 16 to Sevilla is "no big deal", and that plenty of players in that 7th placed Sevilla team "would get into the United team"?

Ofcourse not. 16 points behind Guardiola is a disaster. These aren't the expectations of United. We have higher standards and - unfortunately - the standards seem to have dropped, taking into account the rubbish coming out of the manager's mouth everytime we underperform.

There are a number of sevilla players who would get onto United, did you not see how badly Nzonzi/Banega bossed Herrera/McTominay/Fellaini?

Mourinho has never dropped his standards and is a serial winner but not a miracle worker. Not only has Guardiola outspent him but he inherited Aguero/Silva/KDB/Kompany/Sterling/Fernandinho all of whom are better than what Mourinho got.
 
As a side note, thought his antics on the sideline was entertaining today.

Was pleased to see him so animated today too many times this season he's been sat on the bench looking miserable whereas today he was out giving the players a kick up the backside and they responded.

More of that please Jose
 
1)Second in league with lots of points more than last year.
2) more goals scored than last year
3) great in top six matches this year
4) cup final
Not the greatest season but progress is huge in all areas. He deserves support for third year. And 50% of people here want him out or think that we have stagnated. Ridiculous how jose is underrated here.
 
1)Second in league with lots of points more than last year.
2) more goals scored than last year
3) great in top six matches this year
4) cup final
Not the greatest season but progress is huge in all areas. He deserves support for third year. And 50% of people here want him out or think that we have stagnated. Ridiculous how jose is underrated here.

That goes without saying, I think.
 
The progress has been much more than Marginal, we've now beaten Liverpool/Chelsea/City and Spurs all within what, 6 weeks? Going from 6th to 2nd is clearly progress but jose haters will continue to frame it as 13 points behind the leaders while completely ignoring the leaders are breaking records.



And what happened in the performances before Jose arrived? He's scored more goals than any manager since Fergie.



6th to 2nd is clear progress and the consistency has improved as well otherwise we'd be outside the top 4. We won more trophies last season because the Europa league is marginally easier to win than the champions league, it's almost as if some of you just go out of your way to be dishonest about our situation.



Pogba sure does look like he's given up on Mourinho these last few weeks.... yawn.



Matic is far superior to Herrera.



Our points total is level or better than almost half of SAF title winning teams. No premier league team in history would be on par to stay with this City team.



They're appalling "fans" who should just quit and watch another sport.



There are a number of sevilla players who would get onto United, did you not see how badly Nzonzi/Banega bossed Herrera/McTominay/Fellaini?

Mourinho has never dropped his standards and is a serial winner but not a miracle worker. Not only has Guardiola outspent him but he inherited Aguero/Silva/KDB/Kompany/Sterling/Fernandinho all of whom are better than what Mourinho got.

This.
 
Is it just me or he found a way to have a dig at OT crowd at end of post match interview. And no, its not me trying to have a go at him, or whatever, before cultists jump out.
 
Yes...just saw it. Bascially suggesting that there needs to be a 'better old Trafford' next season to help the team.

Yea it looks that way but he pulled that out of blue, we just won semis vs Spurs on Wembley and he found a way to slip that up right at the end, sneaky style, you have to have skill for it.
 
You are one shite poster @Swift Football.

AC Milan 2003 & 2007 - Champions League winners and great great sides.

2003 in Serie A - 3rd
2007 in Serie A - 4th

That's a cup team, and I've got a tonne more examples where that came from. We were shite against Sevilla, just as we were against Porto, Leverkusen and a shit load of other teams down the years in the CL... get over it.

do you think Sevilla who is a "great cup side" are gonna win the Copa del rey today?
Also, would be interesting to see what @prath92 and @King Kana thinks.

No matter what you think, Sevilla defeat was one of our poorest displays and it should not be forgotten when assessing Jose's this season.
 
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Is it just me or he found a way to have a dig at OT crowd at end of post match interview. And no, its not me trying to have a go at him, or whatever, before cultists jump out.

Hmmm, interesting. It's almost like playing West Brom at home and playing Spurs in the semi-final of the F.A. Cup creates a different atmosphere before even a ball is kicked.

Maybe he should pay some top minds to look into this.
 
Today I saw the Mourinho I first admired at Chelsea. Well dressed, confident, pissed off and defiant. He seems to be enjoying his Man Utd journey more and more.
 
Yes...just saw it. Bascially suggesting that there needs to be a 'better old Trafford' next season to help the team.

Well, he's not wrong, but it's a bit unlucky for him that 20 years of transforming 'fans' into 'customers' has come home to roost in the last couple of years. It's not just United, by the way. As far as atmospheres go, Premier League clubs probably have the quietest supporters of any big league in Europe, and probably a few 2nd-tier leagues as well. It's sad, but that's the sacrifice clubs have happily made in exchange for more income. Unless the club transforms Stretford End into a singing-only area (with violent and painful evictions for non-contributing people), Old Trafford will continue to have a graveyard atmosphere except the odd game vs Liverpool or City. The OT crowd could be slightly quiet and demanding in the mid-90s as well (after the early title wins), but these past few years have been a new low.

It must be very strange for the players, enjoying the best away support by far in the country, only to come home and play in hushed silence.
 
This "poll" is completely laughable and the thread needs to be locked.

We have been shocking for 4 years post Ferguson so complete credit to Mourinho for not only arresting the slide but also clearly making big progress this season whatever the deluded naysayers might say.
 
This "poll" is completely laughable and the thread needs to be locked.

We have been shocking for 4 years post Ferguson so complete credit to Mourinho for not only arresting the slide but also clearly making big progress this season whatever the deluded naysayers might say.
LOL "thread needs to be locked"

God forbid different opinions from your own :rolleyes:
 
There'll be plenty more bus parking games along the way but we are lucky to have Jose. Apart from perhaps Klopp and to a lesser extent Pep I am not sure there's anyone who might have been a better option out there. His greatest quality has been bringing the Fergie fear factor back where superstars with monster egos are terrified of crossing him. The likes of Van Gaal and Moyes could scream in the faces of superstars all day and they'd still never fear or respect them.

To finish second and get to an FA cup final in a golden age of managers in the premier league while taking into account what a shipwreck Jose inherited 18 months ago is great achievement and real progress.
 
do you think Sevilla who is a "great cup side" are gonna win the Copa del rey today?
Also, would be interesting to think what @prath92 and @King Kana thinks.

No matter what you think, Sevilla defeat was one of our poorest displays and it should not be forgotten when assessing Jose's this season.

These things happens in football. City lost to Wigan. Spurs drew to a couple of lower league teams. Liverpool drew to WBA today. Upsets are quite common in sports. About time we forgot about that loss.
 
These things happens in football. City lost to Wigan. Spurs drew to a couple of lower league teams. Liverpool drew to WBA today. Upsets are quite common in sports. About time we forgot about that loss.

Things like this happen over the season but still need not be forgotten while assessing Jose's whole season, esp. provided Sevilla was the most important match for us till that point, and it was two legged tie. I think we should all remember that Sevilla match just like how we should remember our victory against City while assessing Jose's 2017/18 season as a whole.
 
Well done Jose. Excellent victory. Let's finish the season with the fa cup and buy full backs and a right winger and be more attacking and at well win the league.
 
Now now, all the haters can go to the nuclear safe house now. Come back here after we won a premier league.

Jose was phenomenal today on the touch line, full of passion.
 
If you had no clue about the results and just saw the comments on Caf, you'd think we are having a Moyes season. State of the supporters.

Lemme say it:

Win 2 trophies in 1st season - other teams were crap, we don't win against top teams.

2nd position against one of the best PL sides - oh we lost against them at home.

Lose against top 6 teams - if you are going to be defensive, atleast get the results.

Win against Top 6 teams - we want entertainment.

What. Fecking. What?
 
We are showing some serious character in big games. Ally this to some consistency in the "lesser" games and we will be a serious side. I'm very encouraged by this current trend: consistent come backs, repeated performances in big games under pressure, clever and mature game management. The consistently good football will come (I'd argue it's starting to this season already).
 
If Jose wins FA, win league and UCL next season, which mean he has won all major trophies with Manchester United, may be better than Pep's achievement with City amusing they didn't win FA, Europa, UCL next season.


On other hands, Jose's record against top 6 sides this season - 6 wins, 1 draw, 3 loss with two games in a bag - Arsenal at home and potentially Chelsea in FA final. Pep has 8 wins, 0 draws, 4 lose. If Jose wins next two games against Arsenal and Chelsea, he'll have the best record, followed by Pep. Not bad ;)
 
Anyone know his semi-final record? Must be pretty impressive.
Not very impressive or with his final record, he would win much more trophies...

So many come backs against the top sides this season. Fantastic.

You have to wonder though why seemingly only start playing when going before ?

The United way.

Half truth at least I guess
 
STILL FECKING SPECIAL ISNT HE?

This forum in general should take a serious look at the task and pressure Jose's been given and how he's building a team of winners. Patience is a lost word nowadays, but he still very much knows what he is doing. Time to get fully behind him as fans
 
Imaging if he gets all the love and cuddle Klopp gets from the fans and media. He might not be so miserable after all
 
Credit to Mourinho for today. It was important not to finish the season trophy less and we've made it to the final giving us a good chance of winning the FA cup. And a fine performance to boot against a very good Spurs' side who began in a pretty dominant fashion. But we managed to turn it around and I think we're seeing more of the United character from this side now. It may a flash in the pan, and one would have to see the ability to turn games around more consistently, but it feels like there's been a development in this regard.

I've never completely been sold on Mourinho but despite the complaints about cohesive and style from many quarters including my own, he has definitely done enough to get a third bite at winning a bit trophy i.e another season at the club. Hopefully we win whe FA cup and next year is the one where we truly arrive and make that step up.
 
I was starting to worry he was losing his touch in these sort of games, but this season with our performances in the big games has shown how much I know. He did superb today, hopefully he gets fully backed in the summer because next season we can't have any more excuses. He needs to deliver.
 
Credit to Jose, Spurs barely created a good chance apart from goal and they just kept shooting from outside the box. He learnt from his mistake and went with midfield 3 which helped our midfielders.

Hopefully we will finish the season in style, winning FA cup and finishing 2nd would be good season. Results wise we have done very well this season apart from Sevilla game. Come back wins against City, Chelsea, Spurs shows what this team is capable of.
 
Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho has split dressing room and faces a player backlash - ""Sun"" reported today. :annoyed::annoyed::annoyed:
 
Our players can’t shut up and buckle down. You a can have leverage over a manager when you perform.

Uniteds progress under mourinho is clear. Hopefully can continue. In recent weeks we’ve beaten city Chelsea Liverpool and Tottenham. We’re getting close. Eradicating performances like West Brom, sorting out the right hand side and possibly either signing or seeing one of our big players really step up to being an on pitch leader and motivator will see us competing on all fronts.
 
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