He's becoming almost like a pundit. Talking about a team he has zero influence over.
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He's becoming almost like a pundit. Talking about a team he has zero influence over.
People can throw all the statistics they want about how good we've been but the fact is this level is not acceptable from him. I am not saying we should sack him but at least we should agree we need better performances from the team than this. This season I really expected a title race but fine maybe I will give the benefit of doubt due to how City have been but the performances against lesser opposition has been horrible.
He's instilled an underdog mentality at manchester united.
Well summed up. Excellent post mate.
And one that lives up to underdog status with how we play
From an idealistic position i agree, but again who wpuld you get in? An Eddie Howe? People also saying Conte adter what Chelsea are serving up - that's no better, same couod be said for Ancelotti.
He makes world class players look average. Whereas Klopp makes average players look world class.
I always thought and said having pep in EPL especially with city might bring the worst out of Jose.
Jose does not really handle well being 2nd best for long. I really do hope next season will be different for the sake of United.
Equally, I am very worried about next season with Jose being in charge of us. Not about not winning the title or whatever. More about how much drama and shit shows from him we have to deal with.
Jose does not really handle well being 2nd best for long. I really do hope next season will be different for the sake of United.
Equally, I am very worried about next season with Jose being in charge of us. Not about not winning the title or whatever. More about how much drama and shit shows from him we have to deal with.
Names please!
I'd give him one more window. But today was Moyes levels of atrociousness. Football without a soul.
I really do fear for what some of you are wishing for. We needed to steady the ship and gradually get back to where we needed to be after the Moyes and Van Gaal years.
Are United fans really hoping for a new manager, that will probably take another 2/3 years of getting the team to play his way? A team finding its feet again and struggling to even make the top 4?
Before we know it, we could easily go through another 3 or 4 managers and win nothing. We need stability right now. We need the players to know that they have to put a shift in or they are out on their ear, not the manager.
Are United fans really hoping for a new manager, that will probably take another 2/3 years of getting the team to play his way? A team finding its feet again and struggling to even make the top 4?
Before we know it, we could easily go through another 3 or 4 managers and win nothing. We need stability right now. We need the players to know that they have to put a shift in or they are out on their ear, not the manager.
No one can blame this.
We play casually most of our games. What is wrong? We need to fecking adjust that.
Wouldn't touch Ancelotti or Conte with a bargepole. They're not the guys to lift this team.
Sarri looks interesting at Napoli but what has he done over a sustained period to prove he's top level? Could he even implement the same system here? I doubt it with the current crop.
Not sure about Allegri. Doesn't play the right football.
Jardim is easily the most interesting option for me.
The flip side is do we want another season, two, more of this type of football? I'm not saying we have to change now but saying we shouldn't just in case isn't a good enough reason for keeping Jose. (I'm still unsure though games like today nudge me towards a "go").
Also, the idea of binning players is a nice one but in these times of player power, not going to happen.
Believing we could beat the 20th place team doesn't sound too much like arrogance. Believing the players wouldn't be unmotivated and lethargic also isn't arrogance.
It's a wakeup call. Remove about 6 of those players from the next game and see how the game goes without them.
My thoughts exactly. If our board target Ancellotti, I give up on the club for good. It would reek of short-term thinking and stop-gap tactics with zero improvement in our entertainment levels or league standing.
Of those options, Jardim is probably the guy I'd find most interesting.
Based off last weeks half time team talk, Michael Carrick and Ashley Young are favourites for the United job.
Jose was never and still isn’t a long term Man United manager. I don’t see the point in getting rid at the end of the season but I definitely see it going pear shaped next year.
I can see him being here for many years. He's older, has done everything he'd want to have done elsewhere, and is probably ready to settle down and reconstruct Man Utd into his own image. Maybe 10-15 years here, then manage the Portuguese NT for a few years?
Of course he needs to get a few better players in, so the team won't be quite so annoying to watch.
If Sarri could do it at Napoli with barely any funding, he can do it here too.
I just doubt he'd leave Napoli and I think he'd be silly to leave.
I am worried for next season.
I don't think our summer window matters too much(besides full-backs and a central midfielder).
I think this is our maximum under Jose, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
I don't think our summer window matters too much(besides full-backs and a central midfielder).
I think this is our maximum under Jose, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
I think he said he sees doing possibly seven years which is pretty long term. But it’s not the first time he has said that he wants to build something and it’s gone wrong, I just think it’s in his make up.
He does need better players next year which he will get a hefty transfer budget but I think the style won’t improve that much.
I believe our summer is massively important because it will stop a rot from setting in.
We have new problems, and these are good problems. Instead of trying to ship off players like Schneiderlin, Rooney, Depay, we are trying to improve the average level of the squad and get the best out of top players like Pogba and Sanchez.
I believe investing in the midfield and defense is important for the future of the club. Mourinho is one of the best in the business in the transfer market.
How dare he speak about consistency when he himself doesn't even consistently put out the same XI.
Have to say, this is shit and slowly I am starting to lose faith in him. Our problems are pretty evident so why doesnt he sort them out?
Some of us have been asking ourselves that question for a long time. That's why faith has been lost.
For all those criticizing Jose, watch post match comments from this game (I've just changed my tune after doing so). He knows what the issues are with the team and at this rate, Pogba should start fearing for his place in the team because I think we are going to see a more ruthless Jose
He doesn't know how to.
We do feck all coaching for attacking moves. This i'm sure off. Why do they always pass ball to a standing player, always!
Seems some one has cursed us to play zombie football for eternity.
All his history talks of how great he once was is starting to irritate. The reason he was accepted as a special one was because of his winning mentality and his never say die attitude but this season instead of fixing the flaws he has been lecturing of his past glories.
Credits to Mourinho for stabilizing United's defensive organisation throughout the season, which helped United to grind out results. However, it's clearly time now to find a balance between offense and defense. He has great players at his disposal with Lukaku, Sanchez, Pogba, Rashford, Lingard and Martial. Lots of pace and power there, just unleash it and goals will follow. I am sure of that.
Why don't they play in space? Why are they unable to pass and move? Why can't they anticipate their teammates moves? Why their technical accuracy depends on the opposition and the scoreline? Why do we play without intensity?
Has he made our defense stable though? Our set piece defending is notoriously bad for a Mourinho team.
De Gea has bailed them out a lot. And I know a GK is part of the defense too, but I believe we give up the most chances/shots from the top 6. Don't think that's a stabled defense.
Why would somebody want Conte
The point is to get an attack minded manager. Sarri, Nagelsmann, Jardim, Tuchel (now going to PSG), etc... Bayern are getting Niko Kovac. Madrid got Zidane and are favourites for their 3rd CL in a row. Barca took a chance on Pep after liking his ideologies and his work with the youth team and he has turned into a manager who changed football.If people keep obsessing about a manager needing to be completely "proven" or whatever, we aren't going to get that person. One manager might fail completely at a shit club and be a huge success at a big club. It's not all the same.
It seems that we choose managers that are passed it. The way we play looks a lot like Chelsea played during Mourinho's last season.
That 'special one' Jose is long gone.
I've accepted it a while back. Just need to hope he can continue this season's 'stabilization' and not capitulate next season.
I don't think you've watched Juventus. Allegri is maybe the most tactically flexible coach in the world. His teams can play possession football and counter attacking football in equal measure. Juventus have been consistently fighting with the likes of Madrid/Barcelona on a much lesser budget for a while now and you don't get to 2 CL finals in 3 seasons by playing defensive football. They're defensively astute but the quality of their transitions and fluidity in attack is up there with the best in Europe. Just last night they completely outplayed Madrid in the Bernabeu. Without the genius of Messi and Ronaldo Allegri would probably have won the CL by now. He has probably the best balance between defence and attack than any coach.
exactly this. i don't want to compare us to City but City players pass the ball to a player running at full speed. Most passes we made were addressed to a standing player. Go figure why we failed to test Foster.
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