Theres a difference in going out now and then when we're attacking and just not quite being good enough, to this. Theres a difference to having the right plan and just not finishing, to this. This was atrocious and the wrong attitude from the first minutes, yet it was clearly Mourinhos gameplan, and he just got it all wrong (which is big, because this is how he's always been. So not much reason for optimism).
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Can't defend jose after that. Ridiculous tactics.
What. The. Feck.
Changing manager should be one of the process to transform the club as well.
Then enjoy it instead of asking people to calm down.
And the bolded is what the "...but, but but Fergie" weirdos will never seem to understand.
Also I'd just like to reiterate that to all of those who pointed at the Chelsea and Liverpool results as progress, both these sides are painfully average. Absolutely not the level we should be looking to aspire to. We didn't exactly dominate them either.
Exactly. Liverpool or City would have won this tie by 4 or 5 goals.
I don't want to go through a new manager again. I still think Jose should get next season.
Tonight was so bad though, so inept, so cowardly.
I'm seriously thinking would it be so bad if he went in the Summer. He fecked this tie up in every possible way from mentality to tactics to lineup to substitutions. An absolute horror show from him.
Tonight was so bad though, so inept, so cowardly.
I'm seriously thinking would it be so bad if he went in the Summer. He fecked this tie up in every possible way from mentality to tactics to lineup to substitutions. An absolute horror show from him.
Nah, going out is going out. Same result.
Mourinho in his right state of mind would never say that. He has taken the loss very badly.
We did play chicken shit football against Liverpool in the second half - and if the referee had done his job, it could have cost us. If we had played like we did in the first half, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But we hardly ever do. That is the problem. Why did we win against Liverpool ? Because Mourinho tactically was better than Klopp. How about winning a game because we are a good football side, or because we play good football!
And it's not like I suddenly want him out - I have wanted him out for a long time. I don't look forward to United-games anymore, thats how far it has got. We are a disgrace to look at - and if after 18 months, Mourinho can't make us play proper football - when do you think it will happen ?
Feel the same.
My problem is that i don't necessarily see a proper alternative.
But that isn't for us to decide.
0-0 is not a good result away from home, the lack of away goals is damning - as it was today. It always gives the other team huge hope, even if they let in a goal after 1 minute. No away goal, no progress. I’m pretty sure the stats are hugely against teams that play away in the first game and don’t score. Phychologically, even losing 2-1 away can be a better result than drawing 0-0. At 2-1 you know you have to play and win, at 0-0 you are never out if the other team doesn’t score in the second game - something I think United players had on their minds tonight.
I dont see hypocrisy in calling out Mourinho yet not wanting to have him sacked (yet). Sitting back and pinging the ball up front while having clearly superior players is cowardice. Thats what it is and calling it out is normal. I was hoping we see the crazy counter attacking football Mourinho brought to Madrid a few years back but i've lost hope on that so he must deliver on the one thing he is known for which is success on the pitch. If he doesnt bring success then why should we stick by him for the long term? Next season is his chance to keep his place at this club by winning the PL, nothing less should be acceptable.
christ. He has 2 cups, is in the running for another this year, sits 2nd behind a ridiculously great side in City and its not enough. I'm not even going to bother anymore.
If we had won tonight we could have argued that we are progressing nicely after a decent first season under Jose. Tonight's result, although only one game, will have put a downer on the season and questions will now be asked of Jose's suitability for United.
What's another 300 mil going to do for him in the summer? More players, same shite neg tactics.
Sevilla were utter shite in this game...and United were even worse.
0-0 was a perfectly fine score to take to the 2nd leg, if we actually took control of the game. Sevilla were there for the taking, and we just walked around the pitch like it was a training session.
wow, I'm speechless. He's a dead man walking and he knows it
Wouldn't mind seeing the back of him. His brand of football coupled with his arrogance riles me up like no other. He's such a coward.
If you seriously see it in the same light, then idk what to say. United has always been a club with traditions to entertain the supporters. Win or lose. Mourinho doesn't do that.
It's simple tbh. People wanna enjoy watching matches. Mourinho's biggest supporters and himself makes you think that there is no way to play attacking football (specially in must win games) without increasing the chances of you losing games. Like it has to be one or the other, that is what annoys most fans.
If Man United loses to Sevilla tonight by having more shots on targets, more clear cut chances, I guarantee you the feeling isn't the same. The result would be the same but the fans would appreciate watching a team that lost by giving its best a million times more than this shower of shit we're being served.
A lot of fans watch football for the beauty of the game as well as the results their team can get, Man United surrendering any will to play football in order to maximize results is bullshit.
Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with Mourinho's comments. I mean all he really said, essentially, is that Manchester United is a shithouse institution and that were all a bunch of losers who should be used to defeat by now. What's all the fuss about.
Is he looking to get sacked?
For you maybe. Some people want to be entertained when they watch their team play and that shouldn’t be too much to ask of a club of United’s stature and resources. Mourinho will never deliver that.
I’ve been very clear about this in the past: style doesn’t concern me. I just want to see United win. Tonight was bad, but feck, it’s football.
honestly, that embarrassing post match shite is pissing me off a lot more than the loss. Just an arrogant prick taking the piss.
Even spurs would have gone for it as well, Mourinho got it wrong in both legs no doubt about it.
Do you honestly think there is anything coming his way? We are second in the league, have improved since lately and can say it's merely a blip.
Liverpool blew a 3 goal lead to Sevilla.
Blew a goal lead against them in the Europa league to lose.
But Liverpool would have tried. That hurts the most.
He said it in his press conference. They showed the clip on tv. He said word for word
Obviously he's right that getting knocked out of the CL is nothing new for United, but what was the point of him bringing up Porto and Madrid? Weird
What the hell? The truth is we were never going to win the PL. CL and FA cup should be priority and our only hope to win trophy. Beating Manchester City won't win us the PL anyway, but winning against Sevilla would give us a equal chance to other seven teams to complete for CL.
With the FA Cup on Saturday he's clearly trying to say "it's not a big deal" so we can move on and focus on the next match.
Rightly or wrongly of course
Rightly or wrongly of course
Wtf are those quotes...
This is such a strawman. No one was expecting him to win it this season, and the anger isn't because we've gone out – it's how we've played while going out.
I wouldn't have a problem with him saying "it's very disappointing but you can't win this tournament every year, so I don't want to make a huge drama out of it for my players"
What pisses me (and many overs) off is that he made it about him and his previous successes over us. Demeaning the club and its current players to talk about his own achievements.
Needs binning.
Crediting himself instead of protecting the club.Obviously he's right that getting knocked out of the CL is nothing new for United, but what was the point of him bringing up Porto and Madrid? Weird
Oh you're right I'm so happy we won the most pointless English cup available and barely won a cup that you're only in because you failed previously. All while playing awful football and not even doing defensive football properly. It's not all about results. But for Mourinho, it Is, fair, whatever. He has failed to get the results here though. Simple as.
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