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Mourinho will never apologize and accept responsibility. Always has to deflect blame. When will he ever take responsibility? Sick to death of it.
 
This. How many times have United gone out of the CL? Well, they have won it three times, do the math. The world will still be here tomorrow - Unless Trump is a United fan.
Are you lot blind? Going out is not the sole problem. Going out, playing like that over two legs - especially at home - against fkng Sevilla is the problem.
 
I'm not even bothering trying to defend his tactics or outlook to the game today. I know he got it wrong. I'm just annoyed at posters extrapolating this to the general picture of him managing us, almost as though they refute that he's improved us massively even since last season let alone under Van Gaal. He will get us there, just have some patience.
Improvement is there but how can it not be with all the money he's had access to ? Improving the way we did was the least we could expect.
 
Some seriously emotional people here.

He got it wrong tonight. Get over it. Stop using childish words like "coward" and such.

In a league consisting of Conte, Klopp, Wenger, Poch and Pep amongst all your rivals you don't comfortably sit 2nd in the league by being a coward. You don't manage a side that scores the 3rd highest goals in the league by being a coward. You don't have 2 Champions Leagues to your name by being a coward and have a CV like he does from being a coward either. His post match interview is reminding the short minded media (and clearly many posters here) what he's all about.

Ferguson was dumped out by Leverkusen in one season and there were 1 or 2 instances where he didn't even make it through the group stages. This shit happens and no manager gets every big game right. Get over it. He has us improved us considerably and just be patient that he'll take us further where we need to go.
Sorry but what you've just wrote is a steaming pile of horse shit.

Losing isn't the issue. The manner in which we lost is the issue. We're Manchester United, we've spent hundreds of millions on players, and we didn't even try to attack against Sevilla in the knockout stages of the CL. You can try and defend that cowardly performance if it makes you feel better, but the fact is it's unacceptable.
 
It's not the fact that United got dumped out at home in the CL, it's all in the way it happened. It was such a poor approach and performance across two legs...unacceptable.
 
:lol::lol: at the shit he said post match. So basically confirming that this was indeed the gameplan. Kill the momentum and grind out results. Against fecking Sevilla at Old Trafford. It's an embarrassment. The sooner this joke of a manager is gone, the sooner we can go back to moving forward as a club. Thanks for getting us back in the champions league... (after like £500m) But it's time to Go. Find some club thats ok with playing defensively.
 
To be quite honest, I don't think it is. We are out of the C.L against a very mediocre side because we are playing chicken-football. We don't take any risks - and tonight we paid the price.

We didn't play chicken shit football against Chelsea or Liverpool, or in a whole range of Premier League games that brought us to 2nd place.

As I already said, today we were terrible and he shoulders a big part of that with the tactics and selection. I do not want to defend him on tonight's performance but it's certainly laughable to suddenly want him out and ignore everything else he's done.
 
Against Bilbao too it was Europa. Fergie has had bad days in office. But his teams were never cowards or set up like cowards. Rven whrn he lost, he did so by playing attacking football 99% of the times. Please, fo God's sake, don't compare Fergie to Mourinho.
Okay, got the bilbao one wrong.
Not comparing him with Fergie. Not at all. I was just comparing the scenarios.

It was beautiful on Saturday. And suddenly, when we play the exact same way but lost instead of winning, everyone wants him out. This result driven criticism is winding me up. Either stand by his style or don't.

Clearly this style doesn't suit Manchester United and today was a bad bad day. But i won't forget the good work the team put against Chelsea, pool and palace
 
@VP89, while I agree these things happen and it's not the end of the world what I don't like is the way we were playing. Like it didn't matter, like it wasn't last 16 of CL, never out of 1st gear, no ambition or anything. Who's to say we won't look like that next year in a CL knock out game.
He's improving us but I think we should get the league next year or he should leave.
And that's coming from his fan.
 
This was extremely poor from him. I knew being so passive in the away leg would come back to haunt us, but worse than that was how passive we were at home too. Credit to Seville for getting the job done the better side went through. But they are not Barcelona, or Real Madrid, or Bayern Munich. Imagine being that scared of a team like Seville with all the individual talent and riches at your disposal. The players were poor but Mourinho sets out the team and chooses the lineup so it isn't an excuse. The season's over as far as I'm concerned. Try as I might, I can't get excited for 2nd place and an FA cup being the best-case scenario.
 
Ferguson actually under performed in the Champions League during that phase, actually.

Yes he did and he's the first to acknowledge it, but he was Alex Ferguson, the greatest United manager of all time. Even by the time of our first major CL disappointment under him - getting knocked out by Monaco on away goals in 1998 - he had already won the league for us four times, the FA Cup three times, and been to the CL semis the previous season.

Mourinho is nothing to us in comparison (something Mourinho himself acknowledged when he became our manager), he has earned none of the credit with us that Fergie built up over the years, and he'll never earn any combining this type of football with results like tonight.
 
Just watch segments of the presser on Swedish TV. He said the previous stated quote. Infuriating.
 
It's posts like these that makes this place a shithole. How many managers, on live tv, come out and admit they've made a mistake?
Giving an opinion on a managers interview turns this place in to a shit hole? Really? And quoting people to insult them really adds to the discussion doesn't it. In future don't quote me unless it's relevant to the topic.
 
Are you lot blind? Going out is not the sole problem. Going out, playing like that over two legs - especially at home - against fkng Sevilla is the problem.

Calm down :lol: Jesus. I’ve already said earlier it was a poor show from everyone involved.
 
People saying the 1st leg was "pathetic" etc are being over emotional. Nothing wrong with playing like that for the away leg knowing you've got the second leg at home and 0-0 is a good result.

However if you want to call tonight pathetic, I don't see how anyone can really argue with that. The whole point of a 0-0 away result is that you come out attacking/aggressive at home, which we just weren't, regardless of what Mourinho thinks.
 
Mou: "I've sat in this chair twice before, with Porto - Man Utd out, with Real Madrid - Man Utd out, so this is nothing new for this football club." #MUFC

Feck off Mourinho. Get out of my club.

Did he really say this? fecking hell..
 
Okay, got the bilbao one wrong.
Not comparing him with Fergie. Not at all. I was just comparing the scenarios.

It was beautiful on Saturday. And suddenly, when we play the exact same way but lost instead of winning, everyone wants him out. This result driven criticism is winding me up. Either stand by his style or don't.

Clearly Manchester United doesn't suit this style, but today was a bad day. But i won't forget the good work the team put against Chelsea, pool and palace
No one likes his style. Yet to find a single United fan who is enthralled with how we play. He is a results driven manager and who doesn't like to see their team win. But when you don't get the results, compounded by how we generally play there will be repercussions.
 
Is he trying to get sacked or are we missing some context? :lol:
 
Some seriously emotional people here.

He got it wrong tonight. Get over it. Stop using childish words like "coward" and such.

In a league consisting of Conte, Klopp, Wenger, Poch and Pep amongst all your rivals you don't comfortably sit 2nd in the league by being a coward. You don't manage a side that scores the 3rd highest goals in the league by being a coward. You don't have 2 Champions Leagues to your name by being a coward and have a CV like he does from being a coward either. His post match interview is reminding the short minded media (and clearly many posters here) what he's all about.

Ferguson was dumped out by Leverkusen in one season and there were 1 or 2 instances where he didn't even make it through the group stages. This shit happens and no manager gets every big game right. Get over it. He has us improved us considerably and just be patient that he'll take us further where we need to go.
Like everyone else is saying. You're wrong here. It's not about going out. Mourinho isn't a manager who comes into a team and builds for the future. He doesn't excite any fan. He doesn't play positively. He was always about winning - here and now. That was why we got him. In 2 seasons here, he's shown he can't do that anymore, he can't get the results and so it's time to cut him and get a manager that respects our traditions. If we lose, we lose, but you have to go down fighting and with the right game plan. It is one game, Yeah, but one game is all you need sometimes to make a decision (and let's not kid ourselves, Mourinho has been walking on eggshells for ages because we play like shit every week because of his playstyle despite unlimited spending and have had plenty of embarrassing results).
 
Well, that was a debacle, but the truth is we were never going to win the UCL this year. Let’s just go all out and beat the shit out of Manchester City, that will at least make up for going out against Sevilla.
 
The biggest problem Manchester United has is it’s not just about winning, but winning in a certain style.

Barcelona don’t necessarily pick the best manager available, they find someone who plays a certain way.

We have appointed Moyes, Van Gaal and now Mourinho, all bringing negative tactics to our squad.

I don’t see any strategy by the board or the transfers we sign. We just sign the best players who are available and expect them to work.

Jose’s strength was he never messed around with his team, and you knew who would start. I still don’t have a clue what he thinks his best team is. He switches to 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3. He signs Sanchez when we already had Rashford and Martial for the left. Then shifts both out to the right and neither can play there. Big name players are not being shown the bench after playing terribly.

I’ve been a José fan and wanted him here. I never realised how negative he was until I had to endure us play over the last two seasons. He has lost me tonight. To lose our biggest game of the season like that, the same manner we lost to City, it’s no coincidence, it was way we set up. It is not acceptable.

He has spent an absolute fortune and I still see so many gaps in our team.
 
Calm down :lol: Jesus. I’ve already said earlier it was a poor show from everyone involved.
Nothing to calm down about. If it didn't bother you, you wouldn't be here discussing this either.
 
Improvement is there but how can it not be with all the money he's had access to ? Improving the way we did was the least we could expect.

Yeah, he's had a lot of money. Spent 3rd highest in the Premier League and he sits 2nd, and it is also worth noting he took over a poor United squad. One needing a front to back revamp, lets be honest. The outlay he's spent and being 2 seasons in certainly means he should be dispatching Sevilla and I'm not really arguing that point.

I'm just seriously baffled at why people just want him out. It's just bizzare. He has obviously improved us since he's joined and he still needs to work on getting players in to fix the midfield and full back problem. I wouldn't sack him when he's mid way through his project with us. Who would you even get to replace him that is a guarunteed performer? Fecking no one.

Sorry but what you've just wrote is a steaming pile of horse shit.

Losing isn't the issue. The manner in which we lost is the issue. We're Manchester United, we've spent hundreds of millions on players, and we didn't even try to attack against Sevilla in the knockout stages of the CL. You can try and defend that cowardly performance if it makes you feel better, but the fact is it's unacceptable.
Your tag line is well deserved. Think you need to read posts better, though.
 
It's not the fact that United got dumped out at home in the CL, it's all in the way it happened. It was such a poor approach and performance across two legs...unacceptable.

Yep.

In fact it isn't even the performance that bothers me, I can accept us being shit in two games. It happens.

What bothers me is that Mourinho fundamentally thinks the approach he took to tonights game is perfectly fine and would/will likely do the same in similar circumstances in the future.

Even if everything had gone to plan and we had won, the plan would still have sucked.
 
People saying the 1st leg was "pathetic" etc are being over emotional. Nothing wrong with playing like that for the away leg knowing you've got the second leg at home and 0-0 is a good result.

However if you want to call tonight pathetic, I don't see how anyone can really argue with that. The whole point of a 0-0 away result is that you come out attacking/aggressive at home, which we just weren't, regardless of what Mourinho thinks.

You’ve seen tonight why it’s not. 1 goal and you’re in serious trouble. Criminal not to try and score. He’s a moron.
 
People saying the 1st leg was "pathetic" etc are being over emotional. Nothing wrong with playing like that for the away leg knowing you've got the second leg at home and 0-0 is a good result.

However if you want to call tonight pathetic, I don't see how anyone can really argue with that. The whole point of a 0-0 away result is that you come out attacking/aggressive at home, which we just weren't, regardless of what Mourinho thinks.

It was pathetic, no top side goes away from home to a team like Seville and plays for 0-0. We would have gone to likes of Basel or Porto and played for 0-0 as well, it is an outdated, negative approach.
 
I want Poch in and start building something long term, I don't care if if takes a few years as long as there is progress in the way we play and approach games. Even though we beat Liverpool and Chelsea let's not kid ourselves it wasn't great and it hasn't been great all season.
 
The biggest problem Manchester United has is it’s not just about winning, but winning in a certain style.

Barcelona don’t necessarily pick the best manager available, they find someone who plays a certain way.

We have appointed Moyes, Van Gaal and now Mourinho, all bringing negative tactics to our squad.

I don’t see any strategy by the board or the transfers we sign. We just sign the best players who are available and expect them to work.

Jose’s strength was he never messed around with his team, and you knew who would start. I still don’t have a clue what he thinks his best team is. He switches to 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3. He signs Sanchez when we already had Rashford and Martial for the left. Then shifts both out to the right and neither can play there. Big name players are not being shown the bench after playing terribly.

I’ve been a José fan and wanted him here. I never realised how negative he was until I had to endure us play over the last two seasons. He has lost me tonight. To lose our biggest game of the season like that, the same manner we lost to City, it’s no coincidence, it was way we set up. It is not acceptable.

He has spent an absolute fortune and I still see so many gaps in our team.

Fantastic post.

I was initially very pleased with the appointment, and I've been continually trying to accept him but it's just impossible now. It won't get better than this, and if we're not at the top it isn't worth it.

Get a manager who will play football, and who's hungry for success.
 
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