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Over reaction which is typical of this forum. Sacking him? Seriously? We've just beaten Chelsea and Liverpool recently ffs.
We are making progress under Jose but it's slow. Sacking him and replacing him with yet another Manager who will want to bring in yet more players just starts the cycle all over again. It's knockout football, Jose fecked up, it happens. Recover from the game, finish 2nd and push for the FA Cup. Then go again next season with more signings under him. What the club needs right now is some stability after Sir Alex, Moyes and Van Gaal, we'll get that with Jose. We might not get to the domination we had with Sir Alex but tough shit. Footballs moved on since then and we were fortunate to have one of the best Managers of all time.
Alternatively we gamble on another Manager who might drag us back down to where Van Gaal/Moyes had us. Or they might push us on. Personally, i'd go with the safe option for now and then gamble in a few years.
I don't think we should sack him at all and would agree we're making progress, but a harsh critic could argue that our wins over Liverpool and Chelsea aren't really massive achievements but what should be expected of us: we've been outspending them as of late and rightfully should be above both in the league. They've both got plenty of quality but also have plenty of glaring weaknesses.
And while I don't advocate sacking Mourinho, plenty of clubs sack managers on a regular basis and do just fine. Chelsea have won more titles than anyone else this decade (if you count 2009/10) and yet they change managers on a regular basis. City will join them on three this year and they've sacked two PL winning managers when it was clear they weren't doing a good enough job. And while the idea of long-term managerial stability is appealing, it's increasingly rare now; most clubs switch managers every few years, and Mourinho doesn't have any history of staying at a club for a sustained period of time. Now again, I agree we shouldn't sack him, and I believe he should be given another season, but most clubs change managers regularly and they generally don't fall apart as a result.
Similarly, we need to stop thinking of progress as this linear, guaranteed thing that'll happen when a manager stays at the club - yes, Mourinho staying could be a mechanism through which we improve due to being stable, but stagnation is also possible. LVG improved us demonstrably in 2014-15 but we sunk backwards after that. Mourinho improved Chelsea significantly between 2013-15 but then had a nightmare of a season.
My problem with Mourinho is that while I rate him as a manager insofar as he clearly knows the game and is able to set up a team well, he's also inherently pragmatic and defensive in a way most top clubs aren't. Look at most of the sides winning the top leagues and they tend to win by simply beating better attacking sides than their opponents as opposed to highly organised defensive units. That's different to when Mourinho first started out. He's capable of improving us, but I'm not sure his defensive strategy will yield success.
So, yeah - I don't think he should be sacked, and I think we're improving, but I also think we need to stop inherently regarding him being here as something that's 'stabilising' no matter what, because stability doesn't always yield success and can lead to stagnation, and because other top sides change managers on a regular basis and get away with it.