Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

Your stance

  • Top manager in charge of a major rebuild. Needs more time and/or money.

    Votes: 684 43.8%

  • Made improvements but we've stagnated. Sack him if we drop out of top 4

    Votes: 377 24.1%

  • He's not the right fit. Sack him and get someone else who can get more out of our squad

    Votes: 502 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,563
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NinjaFletch said:
I just think you're holding players of whom, through no fault of their own, too much is being asked to the standards of normal Manchester United attackers. They just don't have the consistency to turn up and put in performances week in week out and the unit suffers because there's always one or two who are dragging down the side.

For my money our attacking options are ranked something like this:

World Class, would start for any team in the world:
Starting quality: Lukaku
Rotation options: Rashford, Lingard, Martial, Mata
Not good enough: Mhkitaryan
Unknown quantities: Zlatan

In order for us to play well we're asking every player in our attacking ranks to play a level better than they currently are. That's no recipe for consistent attacking performances.
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Well that's a fair argument. But it also (if it's true that Mourinho doesn't really coach his attackers) makes management look a bit daft for giving these players so much freedom. And I do think it looks like that when I watch United every week.
 
He's had 18 months now and there is still no gel to this team..ive no idea what he is trying to do in any match.
No shape
No plan
No cohesion
No anything that resembles anything useful
 
If this many players are playing this badly, at what point does it become his fault?
 
I still can't believe he didn't bring in another attacking player over the summer. It was obvious to anyone that watched this team last season that they lacked quality in that area. Genuinely idiotic decision and he deserves criticism for it.
 
Why is Pogba playing deeper than Matic? Is this a tactic? If so, it doesn't seem very clever.
 
Stringer said:
I still can't believe he didn't bring in another attacking player over the summer. It was obvious to anyone that watched this team last season that they lacked quality in that area. Genuinely idiotic decision and he deserves criticism for it.
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Too busy purchasing CB options who are worse than our two homegrown talents Tuanzebe and Fosu Mensah.
 
Stringer said:
I still can't believe he didn't bring in another attacking player over the summer. It was obvious to anyone that watched this team last season that they lacked quality in that area. Genuinely idiotic decision and he deserves criticism for it.
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Well we all know he wanted one and the board didn't get him the player. Not sure you can pin the blame on Mourinho for that one, the truth is far more worrying.
 
He can complain about transfer spend but his tactics are outdated. The players look tired & far too comfortable with their shit performances. Continue like this & we'll struggle to make the top-4.
 
What I don't get is how fecking tired we look despite barely moving in every game. How is it the likes of Liverpool or City can bust a lung every game with high intensity football and manage to keep it up?
 
NinjaFletch said:
Well we all know he wanted one and the board didn't get him the player. Not sure you can pin the blame on Mourinho for that one, the truth is far more worrying.
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That was the only target we had? Ivan fecking Perisic? Doesn't say much for Mourinho or the coaching staff if so.
 
Gratz Jose, you've achieved Moyes levels of boredom. You even did it with 7 of your own players. I should finish my coaching licenses and see if it's hard to be clueless.
 
Difficult to defend him now. We had a good head start over the competition, but now we look exactly like last year and will nost likely finish 5th or 6th again if we continue like that. Another 150m spend and no improvement and this year we don't even have the EL to save our ass.
 
McGrathsipan said:
He's had 18 months now and there is still no gel to this team..ive no idea what he is trying to do in any match.
No shape
No plan
No cohesion
No anything that resembles anything useful
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Exactly.

There has been no improvement in terms of the actual football.

It’s like he’s just trying to add more quality players and hope that works, without working on the quality of the play.
 
He's a top manager and the players simply aren't good enough. Not sure what any of them have done to make you think this is underperforming rather than their level.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Difficult to defend him now. We had a good head start over the competition, but now we look exactly like last year and will nost likely finish 5th or 6th again if we continue like that. Another 150m spend and no improvement and this year we don't even have the EL to save our ass.
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What head start did we have?
 
Watching this last half - we need to get rid asap. The players are gone. No one is fighting for anything, notably Rashford and Pogba.
 
goin4glory said:
He's a top manager and the players simply aren't good enough. Not sure what any of them have done to make you think this is underperforming rather than their level.
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Probably the top manager talking them up as title contenders both seasons and buying a decent chunk of them. I actually happen to agree that this is a squad that is top 4 standard but nowhere near City's but it clearly is his fault that he has failed to improve barely a single player and the fact that we look so incoherent. We were joint top with City after 6 games (mid October). Within 15 games (less than 3 months) we have dropped 17 points on them if we don't nick a wholly undeserved winner.
 
Minimalist said:
No offence but that lad from Inter isn't fixing this.
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We have no way of knowing how he would have done, but Mourinho identified an attacking player and the board didn't get one for him. I don't know what else did or didn't happen behind the scenes, but simply we weren't prepared to pay what it takes to get the player Mourinho wanted. Maybe we'd have got him and still been poor, but at least we wouldn't have been left dying wondering.

walkinhop said:
This post must be a joke.
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The joke is the 'richest club in the world' not willing to pay what it takes to get players their manager has identified. Whatever people think of Perisic as a player if we want to be a force the club simply have to stump up the money to buy players to improve the options up front, and the way United work faith is put in the manager to identify and choose targets. If thats the case then we have to back the manager in the market. The club didn't; anything else is sheer conjecture.
 
NinjaFletch said:
The joke is the 'richest club in the world' not willing to pay what it takes to get players their manager has identified. Whatever people think of Perisic as a player if we want to be a force the club simply have to stump up the money to buy players to improve the options up front, and the way United work faith is put in the manager to identify and choose targets. If thats the case then we have to back the manager in the market. The club didn't; anything else is sheer conjecture.
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He identified a LW as the solution to our attacking problems, while we have Rashford and Martial there, what would have happened to them, since he seems hell bent on starting Lukaku no matter what?

What if he actually targeted a RW where we have no fecking cover after his last signing there Mkhi totally failed, or a #10 since he seems hell bent on this ridiculous 4-2-3-1 formation.
 
NinjaFletch said:
We have no way of knowing how he would have done, but Mourinho identified an attacking player and the board didn't get one for him. I don't know what else did or didn't happen behind the scenes, but simply we weren't prepared to pay what it takes to get the player Mourinho wanted. Maybe we'd have got him and still been poor, but at least we wouldn't have been left dying wondering.



The joke is the 'richest club in the world' not willing to pay what it takes to get players their manager has identified. Whatever people think of Perisic as a player if we want to be a force the club simply have to stump up the money to buy players to improve the options up front, and the way United work faith is put in the manager to identify and choose targets. If thats the case then we have to back the manager in the market. The club didn't; anything else is sheer conjecture.
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The apologetic nature of these posts...pathetic. A manager who doesn't have back-up plans and relies on the purchase of one player to succeed against the teams we've lost points against is absolutely at fault. Keep looking for excuses, you might find one that makes sense.
 
walkinhop said:
The apologetic nature of these posts...pathetic. A manager who doesn't have back-up plans and relies on the purchase of one player to succeed against the teams we've lost points against is absolutely at fault. Keep looking for excuses, you might find one that makes sense.
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Oh bore off if you don't have a counter argument.

The simple fact is we've been a shambles since Ferguson has retired. We can blame it all on Mourinho and go through the cycle again with a new manger or address the bigger issue which is the shambolic way the club is run off the pitch. This is a far bigger issue than the manager.
 
Turning point for me. Once the champions league campaign is over, I want him gone.
 
Minimalist said:
Well, regardless of whether it's him or the players (or both), since the City defeat he's had a nightmare.
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Yeah, teams usually reflect manager style, this team is playing with dear of losing games
 
Reminds me of LVGs final season. Fell apart in December and the footballs just as bad.
 
We've been rubbish of late and today we looked particularly badly managed/organised. Disappointing.
 
December and we’re in the top four race, and we’re playing bad football. How is this different from any of the past three seasons?
 
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