José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

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Andy_Cole said:
This was the side for LVGs last game:
DDG
Blind
Rojo
Smalling
Valencia
Carrick
Rooney
Fellaini
Mata
Martial
Rashford

The fact that that side doesn’t look too dissimilar to now is criminal by Jose. Compare this to Klopp’s first game in charge, where literally the whole eleven has gone. Jose has had five transfer windows, it’s embarrassing that he’s not changed much, and that all that dead wood remains.
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WTF? Only Mata, DDG and Martial started against Brighton.

Also, how is it Mourinho's fault that Ed won't buy the players? He had good summer transfer windows in the first 2 years but only got Fred for the first team this year, and that's not due to a lack of trying from Jose's part.
 
I do not blame Woodward. Jose has spent a lot and still has not been able to get them to play better. The two CBs, he wanted, he got them. He got two midfield players and 3 forward players including Zlatan. That is 7 players and if he cannot beat Brighton or get them to play decent football, then that is his responsibility.
We play dire football and we lose to small clubs. The first two years was alright as we kept winning some trophies and his style was accepted. Now that we are not even winning anything what is the difference between him and someone like Fat Sam? At least Sam talks the talk. Jose cannot even do that.
 
TsuWave said:
get this charlatan out of the club

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Yes you can say "meaningless after two games", but I'd like to see those stats for all of last season. I suspect it won't be a much prettier picture. We played some of the worst football in the league, and that seems to be continuing this season.
 
Miscemayl said:
WTF? Only Mata, DDG and Martial started against Brighton.

Also, how is it Mourinho's fault that Ed won't buy the players? He had good summer transfer windows in the first 2 years but only got Fred for the first team this year, and that's not due to a lack of trying from Jose's part.
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I think Jose has got 90% of the players he wanted whilst in charge. Sometimes you can't have everything you want so I'm not a fan of this statement where people blame Ed. The squad does largely look the same, not necessarily the starting line up. I buy the original point that in the same time frame, Klopp and Pep have rebuilt there squads with there players and are playing outstanding football. Yes Pep has spent a lot of money but I think (correct me if I am wrong) only an additional 150m? That is 2 centre and a full back? By the feel of things, we need more than that to even come close to challenging. On the other hand, i do think we have some top quality players but they have zero confidence. I think Jose has tried and succeeded in getting most of the players he wanted but he has not tried hard enough to please a team of egos and has rubbed too many people up the wrong way. In a world where it is so easy to get left behind, a change is needed. Gone are the days of Fergie where you could have 3/4 years to demonstrate value. We are in the 6th year of no title which for a club with as much money as us and the reach of fans is pretty poor. Jose has improved us since Gaal but this is his max level. 2 years is enough of a chnace.
 
Foxbatt said:
I do not blame Woodward. Jose has spent a lot and still has not been able to get them to play better. The two CBs, he wanted, he got them. He got two midfield players and 3 forward players including Zlatan. That is 7 players and if he cannot beat Brighton or get them to play decent football, then that is his responsibility.
We play dire football and we lose to small clubs. The first two years was alright as we kept winning some trophies and his style was accepted. Now that we are not even winning anything what is the difference between him and someone like Fat Sam? At least Sam talks the talk. Jose cannot even do that.
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It's amazing how people can say "Ed won't buy the players", as if we've not been spending any money. Fact is, during his whole tenure here Mourinho has failed to get the best out of many of his players, which is a HUGE part of his job. We have fans here calling Pep a chequebook manager and on the same hand complaining that Jose is not allowed to use endless resources to buy his way out of trouble.

Jose doesn't seem to even have a magical four game stretch for our fans to cling to, like under LVG, so we instead peddle a narrative about Jose's credit card being blocked. But of course, Alderweireld and Maguire would have meant we would have had maybe 1 more touch in the Brighton box from a corner or something I guess?

The pathetic attacking displays are on JOSE not the board. I sincerely hope he turns it around sharpish, but I'm losing faith that he can.
 
.Rossi said:
No no no...

Don't try to change the goalposts here.
Those stats are from the two games we have played this season. Two games!! 1st game we won, 2nd game we lost!
That is what you and everyone else are basing your posts on with that image.

Two whole games into a season, those stats are being presented about the Manchester United manager, by supposed supporters of this club. A manager, who has done more than any post Fergie manager so far...

Yeah, he is responsible for the crap served up on the pitch but, he's not responsible for a World Cup winner being a dickhead and having his usual terrible game, unable to make a simple pass. He's not responsible for the shit cuntary upstairs shenanigans going on at the club either.

This isn't Mourinho's fault for the situation we're in. The situation that we have been accelerating towards since 2009, when some people were labelled as "knee jerks" for stating the obvious
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I am not defending those meaningless stats. Nor I am defending Mourinho anymore. I am just reiterating what most here are trying to do is to see the bigger picture. There's clearly a lack of leadership and motivation in the squad and its upto mourinho fix it. He hasn't helped in improving the atmosphere around the club with the constant moaning. Of course he was right but he should.have handled it in a better way.

Our attacking unit has been clueless since ages so I don't expect these stats to improve a lot either.
 
MrBest said:
I think Jose has got 90% of the players he wanted whilst in charge. Sometimes you can't have everything you want so I'm not a fan of this statement where people blame Ed. The squad does largely look the same, not necessarily the starting line up. I buy the original point that in the same time frame, Klopp and Pep have rebuilt there squads with there players and are playing outstanding football. Yes Pep has spent a lot of money but I think (correct me if I am wrong) only an additional 150m? That is 2 centre and a full back? By the feel of things, we need more than that to even come close to challenging. On the other hand, i do think we have some top quality players but they have zero confidence. I think Jose has tried and succeeded in getting most of the players he wanted but he has not tried hard enough to please a team of egos and has rubbed too many people up the wrong way. In a world where it is so easy to get left behind, a change is needed. Gone are the days of Fergie where you could have 3/4 years to demonstrate value. We are in the 6th year of no title which for a club with as much money as us and the reach of fans is pretty poor. Jose has improved us since Gaal but this is his max level. 2 years is enough of a chnace.
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Could you describe which players make up the 90% he got, vs the 10% who he didn't get? By name.
 
steffyr2 said:
Could you describe which players make up the 90% he got, vs the 10% who he didn't get? By name.
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No I cant but I can go by what he said after each window. First window, he wanted pogba, mkh and a cb. He wanted to keep de gea and all were done. Last summer he wanted 4 players and he got it all done early and again claimed he was happy with what he had and got what he wanted. In Jan he wanted Sanchez and got Sanchez. This summer he wanted 4 players and got 2. Typical Jose we only hear about what was not delivered. In my view ed has fully supported him and Jose has publically announced his approval with his deals in every window but this one.
 
Redlips said:
It's amazing how people can say "Ed won't buy the players", as if we've not been spending any money. Fact is, during his whole tenure here Mourinho has failed to get the best out of many of his players, which is a HUGE part of his job. We have fans here calling Pep a chequebook manager and on the same hand complaining that Jose is not allowed to use endless resources to buy his way out of trouble.

Jose doesn't seem to even have a magical four game stretch for our fans to cling to, like under LVG, so we instead peddle a narrative about Jose's credit card being blocked. But of course, Alderweireld and Maguire would have meant we would have had maybe 1 more touch in the Brighton box from a corner or something I guess?

The pathetic attacking displays are on JOSE not the board. I sincerely hope he turns it around sharpish, but I'm losing faith that he can.
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You don't think defenders have a part to play in building attacks? Their distribution is unimportant? Their lack of quality doesn't cause a manager to have to shield them with players that otherwise would be free to play further forward? Did you not see us pathetically trying to play out from the back and ending up passing around our own area whilst being pressed by Brighton? There are many things to consider when looking at different positions.You make it sound so simple.

'Magical four game stretch'. How about a 40 game stretch? Unbeaten at home. A Mourinho record. Pretty good eh? I wonder how long that could have lasted if he hadn't been completely out of touch with modern football as some claim (how they would know that, I'm unsure).
 
JSC said:
You don't think defenders have a part to play in building attacks? Their distribution is unimportant? Their lack of quality doesn't cause a manager to have to shield them with players that otherwise would be free to play further forward? Did you not see us pathetically trying to play out from the back and ending up passing around our own area whilst being pressed by Brighton? There are many things to consider when looking at different positions.You make it sound so simple.

'Magical four game stretch'. How about a 40 game stretch? Unbeaten at home. A Mourinho record. Pretty good eh?
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Even the best CB pairing in the world wouldn't transform our chance creation from among the worst in the league to among the best.
 
JSC said:
You don't think defenders have a part to play in building attacks? Their distribution is unimportant? Their lack of quality doesn't cause a manager to have to shield them with players that otherwise would be free to play further forward? Did you not see us pathetically trying to play out from the back and ending up passing around our own area whilst being pressed by Brighton? There are many things to consider when looking at different positions.You make it sound so simple.

'Magical four game stretch'. How about a 40 game stretch? Unbeaten at home. A Mourinho record. Pretty good eh? I wonder how long that could have lasted if he hadn't been completely out of touch with modern football as some claim (how they would know that, I'm unsure).
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Pretty sure Jose was not responsible for the full 40 unbeaten run. I think 20 to 25 in first season and perhaps another few more last season max 30.
 
MrBest said:
Pretty sure Jose was not responsible for the full 40 unbeaten run. I think 20 to 25 in first season and perhaps another few more last season max 30.
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Th unbeaten run starter with the Derby defeat in Sep of Mourinho first seaaon and ended with the Derby defeat in Dec of his second season.
 
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MrBest said:
Pretty sure Jose was not responsible for the full 40 unbeaten run. I think 20 to 25 in first season and perhaps another few more last season max 30.
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Pretty sure it ran from the City loss at the beginning of his first season until the City loss last season :)
 
el3mel said:
Th unbeaten run starter with rhe Derby defeat in Sep of Mourinho first seaaon and ended with the Derby defeat in Dec of his second season.
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Ah really? So we played 40 games at home in just over year? It never feels like that but no guess Europa league had a part to play in that.
 
JSC said:
Pretty sure it ran from the City loss at the beginning of his first season until the City loss last season :)
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I just remembered gaal goimg unbeaten in his last 10 games at home before getting the boot. I didn't even comprehend that we would of played 40 games at home in just over a year!
 
whatwha said:
I'm not talking about two games. I'm talking about last season.
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Where we finished second in the league, had the second most wins in the league,were fifth in terms of goals scored and 6th in terms of shots? Ah right. Seems odd considering we're on par with the relegation candidates as an attacking force apparently.
 
I saw a post on here not long back from somebody quoting a study into football transfers, which basically concluded that around 40% of all transfers are considered successful. I'd say that's about right, at a guess.

What I'm reading on here is that Jose should be 100% successful and live or die by his signings. City allowed Pep to rectify his mistakes, but Jose isn't afforded that luxury, that's the difference that some can't comprehend. I remember Pep's first season at City and he was practically in Jose's shoes right now; I remember listening to football phone ins after the games and they were talking about Pep being sacked and not being able to play without world class players across the pitch. City then bought him world class players across the pitch and for his bench. Some to replace his original signings.

Obviously you don't need that to beat Brighton, but that's a stupid barometer for success, especially after two games. The issue is changing that 2nd place finish to a PL title, and that's where quality and depth comes in. Whilst we're fishing for a first choice RW, CB, LB etc, Pep has signed two or three in each position that would all start for us after weeding through one or two that didn't make it.
 
JSC said:
You don't think defenders have a part to play in building attacks? Their distribution is unimportant? Their lack of quality doesn't cause a manager to have to shield them with players that otherwise would be free to play further forward? Did you not see us pathetically trying to play out from the back and ending up passing around our own area whilst being pressed by Brighton? There are many things to consider when looking at different positions.You make it sound so simple.

'Magical four game stretch'. How about a 40 game stretch? Unbeaten at home. A Mourinho record. Pretty good eh? I wonder how long that could have lasted if he hadn't been completely out of touch with modern football as some claim (how they would know that, I'm unsure).
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If it was so important then he should have stuck blind in between 2 central defenders in a back 3 & let Blind be the guy who dictates counter attacks whilst having the backing of 2 other defenders around him.

Ball playing defenders are important for attacking - but ultimately attacking is not that important to Jose. Ball playing defenders are there to make our attack better - not to be the one who is supposed to be the reason we attack - the rest ultimately look completely lost & alderweireld would not have changed it all that much - just made us a tad more solid in attack & defence; nothing less nothing more.
 
MrBest said:
No I cant but I can go by what he said after each window. First window, he wanted pogba, mkh and a cb. He wanted to keep de gea and all were done. Last summer he wanted 4 players and he got it all done early and again claimed he was happy with what he had and got what he wanted. In Jan he wanted Sanchez and got Sanchez. This summer he wanted 4 players and got 2. Typical Jose we only hear about what was not delivered. In my view ed has fully supported him and Jose has publically announced his approval with his deals in every window but this one.
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If he got 9 of 11, that's 82%. And then there's this summer where he wanted 5 and got 0....so now it's 9 of 16 over 5 trading windows. 56%

Seems like there are alot of fans who realize that there are holes in the team where replacements are needed. I guess you aren't one of those?
 
But Jose is the one who bought 7 players already. It is not that we do not win but we play terrible football now. The first year was not so bad but though we were 2nd we were terrible last year and now were are worse. Just one shot on target against Brighton.
 
MrBest said:
I think Jose has got 90% of the players he wanted whilst in charge. Sometimes you can't have everything you want so I'm not a fan of this statement where people blame Ed. The squad does largely look the same, not necessarily the starting line up. I buy the original point that in the same time frame, Klopp and Pep have rebuilt there squads with there players and are playing outstanding football. Yes Pep has spent a lot of money but I think (correct me if I am wrong) only an additional 150m? That is 2 centre and a full back? By the feel of things, we need more than that to even come close to challenging. On the other hand, i do think we have some top quality players but they have zero confidence. I think Jose has tried and succeeded in getting most of the players he wanted but he has not tried hard enough to please a team of egos and has rubbed too many people up the wrong way. In a world where it is so easy to get left behind, a change is needed. Gone are the days of Fergie where you could have 3/4 years to demonstrate value. We are in the 6th year of no title which for a club with as much money as us and the reach of fans is pretty poor. Jose has improved us since Gaal but this is his max level. 2 years is enough of a chnace.
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Of course the squad looks mostly the same. He had 3 summer transfer window and it would be nonsense to replace 15 to 20 players during that time frame.

In the first 2 windows he addressed the biggest gaps in our team, the midfield and replacing Rooney. Bailly and Lindelof are both young and mainly purchases for the future. Neither were instant first team replacements

This window he wanted to address the final piece of the puzzle with the defenders. He wants to add the experience to enable the rest of the team to push further up, and to shield Bailly and Lindelof. Unfortunately Ed decided he knew better and we are now stuck the same issue we had last season.

We need to protect the back four and hence needing to drop the midfield back.

Pep had a much better squad to start with and he spent tons on defence. Read he spent 290m just on defence, and he bought 2 goal keepers. Even Pep makes mistakes but he's allowed to promptly fix it. He also had the backing straight away to do whatever he wanted with the squad and promptly replaced Hart. You could tell Mourinho didn't have the same backing and had to make do with Rooney on his first season.

So it's light years between the power and resource Pep had.

With Klopp, he was given more time to work it out. His first season would've gotten Jose sacked. His second and third season just scraped top 4. And recently, they've had a massive injection to the squad. And he also made mistakes (Karius) and were backed by the board to fix that mistake.

I agree that Jose need to work on getting more from the squad but clearly the board left him hanging with the job 2/3 done
 
Aloysius's Back 3 said:
If it was so important then he should have stuck blind in between 2 central defenders in a back 3 & let Blind be the guy who dictates counter attacks whilst having the backing of 2 other defenders around him.

Ball playing defenders are important for attacking - but ultimately attacking is not that important to Jose. Ball playing defenders are there to make our attack better - not to be the one who is supposed to be the reason we attack - the rest ultimately look completely lost & alderweireld would not have changed it all that much - just made us a tad more solid in attack & defence; nothing less nothing more.
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Winning is important to Jose. He might not be up for this full on all out attack from the moment the whistle blows until it ends mentality but that doesn't mean he doesn't care for attacking play. Make no mistake about it, even his critics consider him to be all about winning. That's something he's done his entire career. How do you suppose he does that? It involves being able to attack as much as being able to defend.

As for the rest of your post, nobody said defenders were the reason we attack. I simply stated that it's far more complex than had been made out in a previous post. Which it is.
 
whatwha said:
I'm not talking about two games. I'm talking about last season.
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Pep’s first season Leicester beat City 4-2 and EVERTON beat them 4-0. Everton.
They finished third that season.

He was given free reign to buy whoever he wanted and they then walked the league. The selective memory of many on here is really amazing.
 
pocco said:
I saw a post on here not long back from somebody quoting a study into football transfers, which basically concluded that around 40% of all transfers are considered successful. I'd say that's about right, at a guess.

What I'm reading on here is that Jose should be 100% successful and live or die by his signings. City allowed Pep to rectify his mistakes, but Jose isn't afforded that luxury, that's the difference that some can't comprehend. I remember Pep's first season at City and he was practically in Jose's shoes right now; I remember listening to football phone ins after the games and they were talking about Pep being sacked and not being able to play without world class players across the pitch. City then bought him world class players across the pitch and for his bench. Some to replace his original signings.

Obviously you don't need that to beat Brighton, but that's a stupid barometer for success, especially after two games. The issue is changing that 2nd place finish to a PL title, and that's where quality and depth comes in. Whilst we're fishing for a first choice RW, CB, LB etc, Pep has signed two or three in each position that would all start for us after weeding through one or two that didn't make it.
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Pretty much. I remember the way they lost to Leicester for example and Everton. Everton tonked them 4-0. Pep was beside himself and the press (and the rest of us) had a field day. I seriously believed he would quit due to the pressure.

I guess money can change things. Who would’ve thought eh?

Ask my club, CFC... it was near carnage last season under Conte, when our CEO (who, is amazing at selling players and, much like Ad man Ed, bringing dosh in but is absolutely clueless when it comes to football. She presided over the purchases of known stalwarts Drinkwater, Bakayoko, and the injured (injured!) Barkley FFS. It led to a poisonous season with Conte walking in a ghastly fashion, even by Chelsea standards.

Go and look at how much we spent this season to compete. We are in the Europa League for our sins (came 5th).
 
You do wonder if Mourinho can really understand the modern player. He seems pretty old school in his approach and has always favoured warriors and hard men but I don't think that washes anymore. Not because footballers have changed but because the world has changed. I'm sorry, but our generation (millennial) just won't accept the bullying of the macho-manager anymore, and rightly so.

Managers now need to be emotionally intelligent. Southgate being a prime example nobody thinks that Southgate is some genius but he's emotionally intelligent and gets those players to run through brick walls for him because they all like him.
 
whatwha said:
Jose is not an up and coming Fergie. He seems past his best to me. I don't see what giving him more time and money will accomplish.
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We finished second last season to the best ever premier league side. Got to a cup final (even the great SAF lost a few of those). Champions league was dissapointing I would say.

I’m on the fence in the manager argument.
Say Mourinho goes,
Who do we replace him with?
And what do they do to change things round?
Can they force the board to invest?
Will they appoint a DoF to leave woodie to focus on securing the match day toothpick sponsors?
Our youth teams are poor atm so investment in the squad seems the only way to move forwards.

Names come up like Pochettino, what’s he won?
Or other foreign managers who are used to managing in two horse leagues in Italy, Germany and Spain?

Looking at the squad, Darmian, Valencia, Young, Shaw, Rojo, Jones, Fellaini, Mata have all consistently proved they have nothing to offer or need phasing out. Are people genuinely going to believe that simply changing manager is going to turn that sack of shit into gold and somehow overhaul City and compete with Barca and Bayern and real in Europe? We can’t even sell any of them because even the likes of Everton and Fulham can sign better.

We seem to have started to think that wearing a Man Utd shirt makes someone a better player. Have we forgotten shit like David Bellion and Djemba Djemba and Kleberson and Cleverley and Gibson etc etc.

Unless the board are going to invest in the new manager, bung blank Cheques at players, then I don’t see how sacking him gets us any further than where we are. That squad isn’t challenging for anything under Jesus Christ himself.
And we have to give that to Jose. All our worst players are not his signings. He has definitely improved recruitment.

Our team looks like this without his players:

De Gea

Valencia Smalling Jones Young

Herrera fellaini mata

Lingard rashford Martial

It’s a mid table team with a world class keeper, decent front 3 and shite that drags it down in between. Some of these players remain passengers in our first 11 at times. Hence why we are struggling against Brighton’s etc. name a player in that back four you would cry out for us to sign if they didn’t play for us. Miracle we even finished 2nd last year in ways, we aren’t second in personnel.
 
JMack1234 said:
You do wonder if Mourinho can really understand the modern player. He seems pretty old school in his approach and has always favoured warriors and hard men but I don't think that washes anymore. Not because footballers have changed but because the world has changed. I'm sorry, but our generation (millennial) just won't accept the bullying of the macho-manager anymore, and rightly so.

Managers now need to be emotionally intelligent. Southgate being a prime example nobody thinks that Southgate is some genius but he's emotionally intelligent and gets those players to run through brick walls for him because they all like him.
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I have the purist form of contempt for millennial males actually and their emotionally fragile personalities. Just sayin'...:)
 
elnorte said:
I have the purist form of contempt for millennial males actually and their emotionally fragile personalities. Just sayin'...:)
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You're one of many which I don't understand. The world is a worst place with bullying, raised voices and people losing their temper. Of course the latter two are to some degree unavoidable but when they become commonplace they need to be tackled. If I had to speculate I'd suspect..that many in our current squad agree with me.
 
Jezpeza said:
We finished second last season to the best ever premier league side. Got to a cup final (even the great SAF lost a few of those). Champions league was dissapointing I would say.

I’m on the fence in the manager argument.
Say Mourinho goes,
Who do we replace him with?
And what do they do to change things round?
Can they force the board to invest?
Will they appoint a DoF to leave woodie to focus on securing the match day toothpick sponsors?
Our youth teams are poor atm so investment in the squad seems the only way to move forwards.

Names come up like Pochettino, what’s he won?
Or other foreign managers who are used to managing in two horse leagues in Italy, Germany and Spain?

Looking at the squad, Darmian, Valencia, Young, Shaw, Rojo, Jones, Fellaini, Mata have all consistently proved they have nothing to offer or need phasing out. Are people genuinely going to believe that simply changing manager is going to turn that sack of shit into gold and somehow overhaul City and compete with Barca and Bayern and real in Europe? We can’t even sell any of them because even the likes of Everton and Fulham can sign better.

We seem to have started to think that wearing a Man Utd shirt makes someone a better player. Have we forgotten shit like David Bellion and Djemba Djemba and Kleberson and Cleverley and Gibson etc etc.

Unless the board are going to invest in the new manager, bung blank Cheques at players, then I don’t see how sacking him gets us any further than where we are. That squad isn’t challenging for anything under Jesus Christ himself.
And we have to give that to Jose. All our worst players are not his signings. He has definitely improved recruitment.

Our team looks like this without his players:

De Gea

Valencia Smalling Jones Young

Herrera fellaini mata

Lingard rashford Martial

It’s a mid table team with a world class keeper, decent front 3 and shite that drags it down in between. Some of these players remain passengers in our first 11 at times. Hence why we are struggling against Brighton’s etc. name a player in that back four you would cry out for us to sign if they didn’t play for us. Miracle we even finished 2nd last year in ways, we aren’t second in personnel.
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The team which lost to Brighton had 5 of his players - one of whom missed a sitter while the other two were directly responsible for all three goals. So we didn't lose cause of the other players but because the ones Jose bought shit the bed and that has happened a fair few times over the last 2 seasons.

Throwing players under the bus to suck up to the manager (who has shown signs of being past his sell by date) is so typical on this forum.

Fergie got excellent performances from anlot of average players. He didn't need 11 WC players to do the job. Something which people conveniently forget when trying to compare the legend to Jose.
 
NK86 said:
The team which lost to Brighton had 5 of his players - one of whom missed a sitter while the other two were directly responsible for all three goals. So we didn't lose cause of the other players but because the ones Jose bought shit the bed and that has happened a fair few times over the last 2 seasons.

Throwing players under the bus to suck up to the manager (who has shown signs of being past his sell by date) is so typical on this forum.

Fergie got excellent performances from anlot of average players. He didn't need 11 WC players to do the job. Something which people conveniently forget when trying to compare the legend to Jose.
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Forget SAF. Ever wonder how the forwards in lower mid table teams seem more cohesive and fluid than us, regardless of their quality? It's getting to be a joke if we look worse going forward than the likes of Bournemouth or Watford with the players we have.
 
Kapardin said:
Forget SAF. Ever wonder how the forwards in lower mid table teams seem more cohesive and fluid than us, regardless of their quality? It's getting to be a joke if we look worse going forward than the likes of Bournemouth or Watford with the players we have.
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This, this discussion point keeps being derailed by squabbling over City and spending, but the lack of structure and cohesion to our attacking play is surely something that Mourinho can he held accountable for.
 
Kapardin said:
Forget SAF. Ever wonder how the forwards in lower mid table teams seem more cohesive and fluid than us, regardless of their quality? It's getting to be a joke if we look worse going forward than the likes of Bournemouth or Watford with the players we have.
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This is something that will always be ignored and Jose fans will moan about transfers and how we didn't sign CB. Look at our games, it looks like the 11 players never trained or played together ever and this is the first time they met.
 
As someone who always wanted Jose to replace saf, I have to say I'm shocked by how poor a job he's done so far.

He might not have got all the players he wanted, but he has had Zlatan, Pogba, Mikhi, Alexis, Matic, Fred, Lukaku. His policy of buying 29-30 year olds has to be reigned in because it's short term and unsustainable. You might buy one of these players to galvanise the whole squad but buying 4 or 5, you risk a whole rebuild in three years.

For me results have outweighed performances. We don't have a game plan, any patterns in our attacking play, really none of our players are playing well as we play a system that reacts to Brighton, Leicester, Sevilla or Ajax in a showpiece final. All teams we are massively better than player wise.

It's time for Jose to do some work, put something together with the players he does have, stop droning on about players he hasn't got. Build some confidence in the players. Get the best out of our talented players. Trying to prove yourself right by throwing young players into a team for one match then throwing them under the bus for not performing won't help.

Stop moaning.......stop being patheticly overly nice, playing stupid games like a teenager, in the media.

Do your job. If you don't like your job.....leave it.

Get a grip. A lot of fans saw you as the answer as soon as Fergie were to retire. But your tenure to date has been extremely underwhelming and the football is tumescent.
 
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