I agree he's done a terrible job, for sure.
José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances
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I agree he's done a terrible job, for sure.
but Chelsea have the 2nd highest number of 28+ year olds after us. Your argument is full of holes to say the least. Also Liverpool got to the final of the biggest competition and were one of the outstanding teams in the competition. We only stood out in the FA Cup to which we lost to Chelsea of course. Fact is, it isn't a big deal. there is no magic formula. City's preferred front line would comprise of 22 year olds in parts of the season. Liverpool are able to score lots of goals with a fairly young attack. I don't see the need for 30 year old attackers in this current team. Sanchez has discouraged me partly.
Yeah. Even the fans of the club that benefitted the most from him (Chelsea) weren't such zealots.
I’m fed up with Mourinho.
He brings boring negative football, constant negative drama, he’s not so whitty as he thinks he is, etc.
Man Utd is (the “is” is starting to turn into “was”) such a special club and this guy just doesn’t suit it.
Think we all kinda accepted the fact that we won’t see exciting football, but at least Jose was an almost guarantee for trophys.
Now 3rs season in as we only have the dire football and are miles away from winning the PL or the CL.
Nothing is going to change. This is what we get with Jose.
For example, the Martial vs Jose constant debate among fans.
Like, ok maybe Martial isn’t good/consistant enough to fulfill his potential, but fcking hell I at least wan’t to see him fail or succseed by actually playing, not playing leftback, tracking back and recieving criticism from the manager after every game.
He brings boring negative football, constant negative drama, he’s not so whitty as he thinks he is, etc.
Man Utd is (the “is” is starting to turn into “was”) such a special club and this guy just doesn’t suit it.
Think we all kinda accepted the fact that we won’t see exciting football, but at least Jose was an almost guarantee for trophys.
Now 3rs season in as we only have the dire football and are miles away from winning the PL or the CL.
Nothing is going to change. This is what we get with Jose.
For example, the Martial vs Jose constant debate among fans.
Like, ok maybe Martial isn’t good/consistant enough to fulfill his potential, but fcking hell I at least wan’t to see him fail or succseed by actually playing, not playing leftback, tracking back and recieving criticism from the manager after every game.
Unsurprising. It's not even hyperbole to say we play some of the worst football in the league.get this charlatan out of the club
I don't give a shit about those stats because I never argued we were great going forward in the first place.
Did you watch our two opening games? Even if it is bullshit the true stats won’t be far off.
In Europe maybe, undoubtedly of the big clubs.
There was continent wide consternation after that Sevilla game last year, pundits disgusted by how Utd approached it, but not shocked, they know Mourinho.
Most of the discontent within the fanbase is over style rather than results.
Outside of Lukaku missing a couple of sitters, do you remember any time where we were in the last third during both games?
Fully agree, the only reason they've stood by Klopp even when he wasn't winning stuff was the signs of progress in the football despite him not getting the players he wanted at first. It was pretty clear what type of football Klopp has been about since day one and its really paying off with time, do you think honestly think its the same with us?
Mourinho still the most responsible for our problems in the ESPN poll. Still open if anyone wants to vote.
Actually Zlatan was a great signing and I wish we had someone like him in the team right now.
He’s actually been fine with the young players. Rashford got plenty of time, Martial got his chances, McTominay has been pulled out of nowhere and Lingard has turned into a properly good footballer. Pereira has been integrated into the team this year too. I know the perception is that we used to promote 5 players a year into first team but truth is the current rate at which they are getting promoted is pretty much the par for us.
There are many sticks to beat Mourinho with and I think he should go as well (for slightly different reasons) but the witch hunt and the hate he is getting is ridiculous.
I think it’s the leadership that we are lacking more than pure age in years, someone who will actually fight for the team on the pitch when things aren’t going well. It often coincides with experience but if we got a 26-year old Roy Keane instead it would still work.
We've progressed too, not great to watch but were effective last year. But I could see what you're trying to say though. My problem is i don't trust Ed to replace our current manager effectively. The managers we've hired since the great man retired doesn't fill me with confidence about Ed. Until he gets a DOF in place and has a clear plan about how we want to play football, i think we should not be making manager changes.
We'll keep trying till we get it right for managers. I agree the club has no plan though. The biggest grouse for me is how we constantly buy average players and won't get rid of them. Or the fact that everything concerning transfers is totally manager dependent. If some promising right winger becomes available will we wait till Jose puts him on his list? Do we need a manager to do something about Young and Valencia being first choice fullbacks?
get this charlatan out of the club
Jesus
most people probably don't know who Ed is.
Mourinho still the most responsible for our problems in the ESPN poll. Still open if anyone wants to vote.
get this charlatan out of the club
fecking Woodward!
get this charlatan out of the club
Nah he needs a better back 4 apparently to actually attack.
The excuses given for Jose are incredible.
20th in time spent in final 3rd and % of touches in opp box. Even after 2 games, that's absolutely unacceptable.
One game in which we were behind for 70 minutes. The numbers should be inflated the other way because of the sample size.
Won't be improving after our 3rd game either
On the plus side, I remember it being a well annoying feature of SAF's later years and even Moyes' term that we'd get to the edge of the box and seemingly not know what to do with the ball. Glad to hear we don't have to worry about that anymore!
get this charlatan out of the club
Why are people surprised by these stats? Jose doesn't train attack, that's it.
He's only bothered about the defense, and its that part which we must be looking at.
Jose wouldn't look at these stats and rue or regret one bit.
Makes it that much worse than it already is.
Wow! The amount of hate for Jose here is astonishing to say the least.
It is.
Yeah, that’s why his Madrid team scored close to 350 goals in his three league seasons there and over 120 in the season he won the league in. I bet he was devastated then.
I wonder who was hated the most (at their peak of shitness)
Moyes
LVG
Jose
Think it’s Moyes then Jose then LVG.
However Jose has diverted hate away to Woodward cleverly.
On point.
Jose by far, then van Gaal and then Moyes IMO. With Moyes even when people disliked him everyone always came up with the ‘hard working, honest man’ thing.
In Moyes's case, I think Fergie's last speech at OT might've saved him from a lot of criticism.
I don't think Jose diverted hate to Woodward. I thinkpeople are only beginning to see the whole picture.
For those who are upset about the style of football, I understand and feel for them. But frankly, in every other issue, I hardly have any blames for Jose. In my opinion, he is taking flaks he does not deserve. From City beating us to the title to Pogba to Martial to Shaw and Summer transfer issues, Jose has been unfairly blamed in my opinion.
get this charlatan out of the club
Two games....
Two fecking games into a season...And you people are already on with this shit...
Two. Games.
He's to blame for the shit on display on the pitch but, two games and you're pulling shit like this out? Absolutely embarrassing some of you
I could only imagine how some of you would piss the bed after the first two games of the 92/93 and 95/96 seasons
Moyes in first, followed up by Jose, then Vangle comes in last. At least with Vangle I could see what he was trying to do, still can’t see what Mourinho is trying to accomplish.
Two games....
Two fecking games into a season...And you people are already on with this shit...
Two. Games.
He's to blame for the shit on display on the pitch but, two games and you're pulling shit like this out? Absolutely embarrassing some of you
I could only imagine how some of you would piss the bed after the first two games of the 92/93 and 95/96 seasons
Or even 07-08 as I mentioned.
I get your point but everything points to the things we worried about. It's not two games. Its all those games from the tail end of last season, pre season including these two. There's literally no improvement whatsoever.Two games....
Two fecking games into a season...And you people are already on with this shit...
Two. Games.
He's to blame for the shit on display on the pitch but, two games and you're pulling shit like this out? Absolutely embarrassing some of you
I could only imagine how some of you would piss the bed after the first two games of the 92/93 and 95/96 seasons
No no no...
Don't try to change the goalposts here.
Those stats are from the two games we have played this season. Two games!! 1st game we won, 2nd game we lost!
That is what you and everyone else are basing your posts on with that image.
Two whole games into a season, those stats are being presented about the Manchester United manager, by supposed supporters of this club. A manager, who has done more than any post Fergie manager so far...
Yeah, he is responsible for the crap served up on the pitch but, he's not responsible for a World Cup winner being a dickhead and having his usual terrible game, unable to make a simple pass. He's not responsible for the shit cuntary upstairs shenanigans going on at the club either.
This isn't Mourinho's fault for the situation we're in. The situation that we have been accelerating towards since 2009, when some people were labelled as "knee jerks" for stating the obvious
This was the side for LVGs last game:
DDG
Blind
Rojo
Smalling
Valencia
Carrick
Rooney
Fellaini
Mata
Martial
Rashford
The fact that that side doesn’t look too dissimilar to now is criminal by Jose. Compare this to Klopp’s first game in charge, where literally the whole eleven has gone. Jose has had five transfer windows, it’s embarrassing that he’s not changed much, and that all that dead wood remains.
DDG
Blind
Rojo
Smalling
Valencia
Carrick
Rooney
Fellaini
Mata
Martial
Rashford
The fact that that side doesn’t look too dissimilar to now is criminal by Jose. Compare this to Klopp’s first game in charge, where literally the whole eleven has gone. Jose has had five transfer windows, it’s embarrassing that he’s not changed much, and that all that dead wood remains.
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