José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

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Well in my opinion (for what it's worth), Mourinho never said anything like you're suggesting..



Call the bloody National Guard.. If this is what anybody can see as a personal attack, or non appropriate thing to say.. Then they truly need psychiatric assistance.

Pogba pissed off when he wasn't picked from the reserves by Fergie...

He's quiet sensitive
 
He signed Bailly and Lindelof and stated he wants Young to play 50 games next season. I’d hardly say he’s been forced to play anyone after £350/400m.

It’s also a bit of an easy out to just blame it on the owners. Leeches, but they’ve backed him up to this point and the previous 2 before Jose.

It’s not as if we have a woeful squad. Is it their fault none of our attacking players look any good? Is it their fault we create nothing under the current system?

Just to blame it on the owners is an easy way to pass the blame.

Bought and sold Mkhi too, Pogba and Martial look like turd under him. Managers that have had to do with less seem to be making more progress than him. When they are all out of excuses to defend him they just blame the club and get it over with. Soon they'll blame Woodward for not selling Fellaini and Rojo, blame the Glazers for playing Ashley Young at left back
 
Bought and sold Mkhi too, Pogba and Martial look like turd under him. Managers that have had to do with less seem to be making more progress than him. When they are all out of excuses to defend him they just blame the club and get it over with. Soon they'll blame Woodward for not selling Fellaini and Rojo, blame the Glazers for playing Ashley Young at left back

They already are.
 
Now what you and I think it's quite irrelevant, but it's what Pogba and key figures at UTD think of it is what matters.

When a manager don't feel comfortable praising his player for great success, then logical conclusion is that manager isn't really happy for his player's success. Heck some might even say he's envious.

Bingo
 
Get Pogba into camp, into the club, into the locker room, to dinner with Jose... etc.. and Jose seems to have a way of winning over players personally. Most players that have ever spoken publicly about Jose, do so in a flattering fashion. Even after he leaves a club.

If we aren't selling Pogba, and I'm so proud that we seem to be laughing off that rediculous offer, then Mou will get Paul back on track and focused on becoming the best midfielder in the world. We desperately need him at his best for the entire season.

Just watch, Jose will be overly praising Pogba for the next few months and we'll see healing in that relationship.
 
Pogba pissed off when he wasn't picked from the reserves by Fergie...

He's quiet sensitive

He thought he was ready, so he left. He immediately was starting at one of the biggest clubs in Europe. I’d say he made the right choice for his career.
 
Now what you and I think it's quite irrelevant, but it's what Pogba and key figures at UTD think of it is what matters.

When a manager don't feel comfortable praising his player for great success, then logical conclusion is that manager isn't really happy for his player's success. Heck some might even say he's envious.
He's not envious, he's just selfishly covering his arse. If he praised Pogba the next question would definitely be why Pogba is not good for United, so he pushed the blame onto Pogba saying that he lacks drive or concentration over a year and is easily distracted. Everything the man speaks or comes out with is about making himself look good, that's why he is constantly praising average headless chickens and throwing good players under the bus.
 
Well, his success is contingent and comes with downsides. It's what most people have come to agree on now. It's a banal thing to say, and yet it was considered heresy, not too long ago.
 
Not sure if this has been posted but this got me real pumped for the season despite all the shite and negativity going around.

Jose Mourinhos last chance this autumn side of the season probably. Truth is we dont know the whole story how players feel about him behind the scenes.

edit: great cant post the youtube link:wenger:
 
He's not envious, he's just selfishly covering his arse. If he praised Pogba the next question would definitely be why Pogba is not good for United, so he pushed the blame onto Pogba saying that he lacks drive or concentration over a year and is easily distracted. Everything the man speaks or comes out with is about making himself look good, that's why he is constantly praising average headless chickens and throwing good players under the bus.

To my point, he just generally talks too much. The media isn't entitled to constant information.
 
I wonder if some of Jose's signings have set him back a bit in building his strongest first 11 seeing as we are heavily linked with yet another defender.People will argue about the money he has spent but even great managers can get signings wrong.I suppose the flip side to that argument is great managers can work with less skillful players also and have a team playing good football and even win something without a world class 11 (Some of Fergie's teams and Leicester)two very different managers.

While I can see progress with his rebuild,DDG who we already had but the additions of Pogba, Matic and Sanchez I was expecting him to get us in the mix and a little bit closer to a proper title challenge in his third year with a few more astute signings to put his finishing touches on his team but the way this transfer window has gone for us surprisingly this season, I'm not sure how we will fair this year with the current team and IF he sticks around if the purse strings are cut. Just how far away are we on actually challenging again under this Mourninho team ?
 
I wonder if some of Jose's signings have set him back a bit in building his strongest first 11 seeing as we are heavily linked with yet another defender.

This keeps on being brought up when the reasoning is extremely obvious. He wants another defender because the likes of Rojo and Jones have been at the club for long enough to know they are duds.

Lindelof and Bailly were bought for the future, they are both 24 years old and since defenders generally take longer to mature they are the equivalent of Martial and Rashford in terms of development.

It's perfectly reasonable to want an experienced head at the back since we have been lacking a leader at the back for ages.
 
I love how this thread has 1,600 replies despite the season not even starting for another 3 days.
 
I love how this thread has 1,600 replies despite the season not even starting for another 3 days.

For whatever reason, he decides that his job isn't hard enough, so he increases the pressure by 1000 times before a ball is even kicked.
 
This keeps on being brought up when the reasoning is extremely obvious. He wants another defender because the likes of Rojo and Jones have been at the club for long enough to know they are duds.

Lindelof and Bailly were bought for the future, they are both 24 years old and since defenders generally take longer to mature they are the equivalent of Martial and Rashford in terms of development.

It's perfectly reasonable to want an experienced head at the back since we have been lacking a leader at the back for ages.
Yeah I agree we are seriously lacking in that department.
 
This keeps on being brought up when the reasoning is extremely obvious. He wants another defender because the likes of Rojo and Jones have been at the club for long enough to know they are duds.

Lindelof and Bailly were bought for the future, they are both 24 years old and since defenders generally take longer to mature they are the equivalent of Martial and Rashford in terms of development.

It's perfectly reasonable to want an experienced head at the back since we have been lacking a leader at the back for ages.

So why is he interested in signing 25 year old Harry Maguire? Is that the age at which central defenders suddenly switch from “one for the future” to an “experienced head”?
 
As much as I hate Mourinho, lets not pretend like we didn't know what we were getting when hiring Jose. All of the falling out with players, criticising players in the press and calling out the board for lack of investment is nothing new.

Sure the football is not great to watch but he has definitely improved us. I think the board should have backed him but its probably understandable that we need to sell first to buy. We're clearly lacking a left back and a right winger and those should have been high on the list. IMO i think he has also put himself in this situation by letting go of Mkhi (one of his right sided players) and gotten another left sided player in sanchez. We probably have to let one of martial or Rashford or even Mata go before we can sign a right-sided winger. Maybe the board don't want to back him or Woody wants to do a massive deadline day signing :devil:

Having said that, its also Jose job to get the players he has playing and challenging for titles. Honestly I think he will win us some silverware this season.
 
After laying into him a fair bit at the back end of last season, mainly for our style of play, I can't help but feel sorry for Jose now.

Asked for 5 or 6 players this summer, been given 1 in Fred which improves the first team.

We're no closer to City and he's gonna have to work wonders this season.
 
So why is he interested in signing 25 year old Harry Maguire? Is that the age at which central defenders suddenly switch from “one for the future” to an “experienced head”?

A look at Maguire will tell you he's certainly a leader on set pieces both defending and attacking, and that has been a massive weakness of ours. And there is no switch; it's a process. Alderweireld is first choice according to Simon Stone, so I'm assuming we have seen him as the player that doesn't need to be worked on at all, while Maguire is someone that has some qualities and not others.
 
As long we don't know the exact names on the Jose's "wanted" list - the board is to blame for the lack of transfers.

After a very negative end to the last season, Jose could easily do himself a favor and get the fans on his side by playing fan favorites and playing more attacking football. If you win the fans, you have an extra ace against the board. But at the moment, he's pulling everybody down with him.

Will be a long long season this.
 
A look at Maguire will tell you he's certainly a leader on set pieces both defending and attacking, and that has been a massive weakness of ours. And there is no switch; it's a process. Alderweireld is first choice according to Simon Stone, so I'm assuming we have seen him as the player that doesn't need to be worked on at all, while Maguire is someone that has some qualities and not others.

How good is Alderweireld on the set pieces tho? I've seen people saying he's really poor in the air.
 
If he gets close to City with this squad he'll have worked wonders.

No manager in world football could finish ahead of City with this team.

If Mourinho were to win the PL this season it would be his greatest ever feat, imho.
 
If he gets close to City with this squad he'll have worked wonders.

No manager in world football could finish ahead of City with this team.

Yeah, what do you expect anyone to do with a squad consisting of the likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Matic, De Gea etc. He'll do well to avoid relegation.
 
If he gets close to City with this squad he'll have worked wonders.

No manager in world football could finish ahead of City with this team.
"with this squad"
he built half the fecking squad and he's got some very good players. The excuses being made for him are a joke.
 
If he gets close to City with this squad he'll have worked wonders.

No manager in world football could finish ahead of City with this team.

Lindelof
Bailly
Dalot
Matic
Fred
Pogba
Lukaku
Sanchez

That’s eight players he’s signed. Including the world’s best goalkeeper, that makes nine.

Isn’t it time we stopped talking about “this” team and started talking about “his” team? And these aren’t bargain basement signings either. The average fee paid for those 8 players is just under €50m!!
 
Lindelof
Bailly
Dalot
Matic
Fred
Pogba
Lukaku
Sanchez

That’s eight players he’s signed. Including the world’s best goalkeeper, that makes nine.

Isn’t it time we stopped talking about “this” team and started talking about “his” team? And these aren’t bargain basement signings either. The average fee paid for those 8 players is just under €50m!!

Ok His/Our team/squad isn't a patch on City's. As it stands, Jose is having to use players he's told can leave the club. Darmian might start tomorrow.

Pep wouldn't be getting 100 points if he still had Zabaleta at right back, Bravo in goal and Mangala at centre half.

I'm no Jose fan, the stlye of play is garbage at times but this window has opened my eyes a bit. We finished 19 points behind City, Jose asked for 5 or 6 players, he's been given two if you include Dalot as a first teamer.

A new manager (Poch?) would have us playing better football, which would be bloody great, but we'd still be nowhere near City, unless we continue to invest.
 
Lindelof
Bailly
Dalot
Matic
Fred
Pogba
Lukaku
Sanchez

That’s eight players he’s signed. Including the world’s best goalkeeper, that makes nine.

Isn’t it time we stopped talking about “this” team and started talking about “his” team? And these aren’t bargain basement signings either. The average fee paid for those 8 players is just under €50m!!
Nope. For the 1st time in his career, Jose needs an entire new 11 before you can put him under any pressure to deliver!
 
If he continues to use 4231 without having an appropriate right winger then the fault continues to be on Jose.

Whilst I have been surprised at the lack of transfer activity coming in for him - Jose could have managed his collection of players better.

Continue with the 352 which will get the likes of rashfprd, lukaku, Sanchez, martial, Mata & Lingard playing in their most appropriate positions whilst players like ppgba & Fred will require much less defensive work.
Our fullbacks are wingback & defenders like lindelpf has previously looked better in a back 3.

If he continues with the 4231 & cries for willian & the lack of support for Lukaku trying to mimmik Drogba then he can sod off.
 
Yeah, what do you expect anyone to do with a squad consisting of the likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Matic, De Gea etc. He'll do well to avoid relegation.

Where did I ever hint at anything remotely like that?

Are you happy with this window?

I'm not happy with this window. Therefore the point I was making was after really laying into Jose end of last season, I now feel for him a bit and will give him a bit more slack.
 
Where did I ever hint at anything remotely like that?

Are you happy with this window?

I'm not happy with this window. Therefore the point I was making was after really laying into Jose end of last season, I now feel for him a bit and will give him a bit more slack.
:lol:
 
Where did I ever hint at anything remotely like that?

Are you happy with this window?

I'm not happy with this window. Therefore the point I was making was after really laying into Jose end of last season, I now feel for him a bit and will give him a bit more slack.

Fair enough. No, I’m not happy with the window either, though I’ve no idea who’s to blame for that. Still, I think we have more than enough quality in our squad to be able to challenge, or at least do a lot better than what we did last season - both in terms of results and performances. Despite a disappointing transfer window I don’t think Mourinho can have too many complaints with the talent at his disposal.
 
Fair enough. No, I’m not happy with the window either, though I’ve no idea who’s to blame for that. Still, I think we have more than enough quality in our squad to be able to challenge, or at least do a lot better than what we did last season - both in terms of results and performances. Despite a disappointing transfer window I don’t think Mourinho can have too many complaints with the talent at his disposal.

Maybe I'm too pessimistic. But concerns with Jose have now become concerns with our board after this summer. Where is the ambition, because we finished 19 points behind our local rivals. The manager can get more out of the players, but still requires proper backing in order to close the gap.

There's no point supporting him for 2 years, giving him a new contract in January and then not backing him fully in the market a few months later.
 
Maybe I'm too pessimistic. But concerns with Jose have now become concerns with our board after this summer. Where is the ambition, because we finished 19 points behind our local rivals. The manager can get more out of the players, but still requires proper backing in order to close the gap.

There's no point supporting him for 2 years, giving him a new contract in January and then not backing him fully in the market a few months later.

Personally, I'd want Jose to prove he can get more out of his current players before I back him with another few hundred million. Even if it meant not challenging for one more season. But I'm not the board, obviously.

Anyway it's not like we signed absolutely no one.
 
Personally, I'd want Jose to prove he can get more out of his current players before I back him with another few hundred million. Even if it meant not challenging for one more season. But I'm not the board, obviously.

Anyway it's not like we signed absolutely no one.

Agreed. Sanchez has more to give, he got Fred and Dalot, both of which should improve us this season. Mourinho hasn't done enough to warrant blind faith from the Board.

I actually appreciate that we're restrictive, been feeling for a while that we've bought our way to disarray and lost ourselves along the way. I miss the days of attacks down the flanks and good crossing.
 
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