José looking to sign 6 players in summer - 2CM, LB, RB, W, CB [Times]
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So two signings already. Liverpool only have one and everyone else has none. Is that us Champions?
Things actually get quite interesting now. The first two are good in their own way, but let’s see now if there are any surprises or marquee additions.
Things actually get quite interesting now. The first two are good in their own way, but let’s see now if there are any surprises or marquee additions.
Sandro, Toby, Savic, Bale still to be signed. Even if we do all that, are we a match for City?
For me, if we can get Bale it will have been a fantastic season.
I personally think that the City squad has significantly more talent in it than ours. A lot more.
This would help close the gap and what a boost to the players and fans it would give.
Fred - £50m
Dalot - £20m
Bale - £110m
Aldwerweild- £50m
Another midfielder and left back??
Would be a solid £300m plus spend which I think is doable if we can recoup £50m plus and if it involves Bale.
I personally think that the City squad has significantly more talent in it than ours. A lot more.
This would help close the gap and what a boost to the players and fans it would give.
Fred - £50m
Dalot - £20m
Bale - £110m
Aldwerweild- £50m
Another midfielder and left back??
Would be a solid £300m plus spend which I think is doable if we can recoup £50m plus and if it involves Bale.
Liverpool have had 2 signings too. Fabinho £42.7m & Keita £62m.
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Definitely don't want another right-footed full-back being moved to the left..
On paper, it would be close. Depends on who they sign really, my guess is Mahrez & Jorginho.
Regarding our potential signings - Bale would instantly be one of the best players in the premier league, providing he can stay fit. Doubt we're signing him though. Alderweireld & Sandro would give us the best defence in the league. Savic looked immense against Inter but I have higher expectations for Fred, considering his attributes will compliment Matic & Pogba perfectly. Having said that, I would prefer if we go for the ultimate passer, someone who is excellent under pressure rather than SMS. We really could do with a Carrick clone, the likes of Weigl aren't good enough from what I've seen. Only Reus from that Dortmund team would instantly improve us.
3 transfer targets for 1 position is more than enough.
There isn't a better RW out there than Bale in truth
They are not transfer targets if they are not available because of the circumstances we already discussed. You could have 50 transfer targets but if they are not for sale and we are not their first choice then its meaningless.
Desirable and available are two different things in these cases. We can't afford to hope for any of them to turn and hope for the club and the players to decide on the move knowing what we know. This would mean we were stuck with no alternative because we pinned our hopes on getting one of them.
If in the background we are doing a deal and both parties were on the same page then fair enough.
Do you have inside knowledge that the rest of us do not regarding Bale's availability?
Bale is currently unhappy and has pointed that out to the media.
Mourinho is a fan and has stated he would be interested.
For all we know, utd and real are discussing a potential deal.
Do you know of a world class that we could go out and sign immediately?
Sign em all!
Griezmann 90M
Bale 90M
Alderweireld 50M
Sandro 50M
I don't care how or where they play, sign them!
Griezmann 90M
Bale 90M
Alderweireld 50M
Sandro 50M
I don't care how or where they play, sign them!
Keita was done last summer so doesn’t count.
How does it not count? The transfer is happening this summer and will come out of this summer transfer budget for Liverpool regardless of when agreed.
It doesn’t count because I’m making a joke about people thinking the league is over the moment a rival signs a player earlier than us in a transfer window.
My joke, my rules.
For the record I don’t actually think we are Champions now, because we’ve made two signings. Just in case there is any doubt.
Hell Yeah!
We would be a match for most teams in the Champions League if we signed the 4 you mentioned plus Fred and Dalot. The sheer competition for match day places would be similar to Sir Alex great sides of 1994 to 2001 and 2007-2011.
Imagine a Midfield that no longer relies on Pogba who on his day is a world beater but his days are far too few, Jose simply drops him and says for this game I'm going with Matic, Fred and Sergej Milinkovavik-Savic as I'm looking for more intensity. Against the top 6 away in the PL, Jose turns round to Sanchez and says your on the bench for this one because I need the extra pace of Bale, Martial and Lukaku to hit them on the counter.
Luke Shaw, knows Ashley Young is not better than him at left wing back but Jose simply prefers Young, if Sandro came in then Shaw has to really up his game because he sees a genuine class wing back that shares his physical strengths but makes better attacking and defensive decisions in game and will create more goal scoring opportunities. Finally Jose turns round to all the Centre backs and shows them Toby Auderweild positional play and long raking passes to open up other teams on the counter with pinpoint passing.
The simple test to the question is how many of this United's Hypertheortical Squad would then get into a combined City and United team.
Answer; 6 maybe 7 if Sanchez pulls his finger out!
D De Gea
(United)
Walker Kompany Auderweild Sandro
(City) (City) (United*) (United*)
Milinkovavik-Savic Pogba De Bruyne
(United*) (United) (City)
Bale Aguero D Silva
(United*) (City) (City)
*subject to signing for United as per your post you can see that window would give United the edge with Lukaku, Martial, Rashford, Bailey, Fred, Matic, Lingard, Mata all Elite Level back up players!!
What has inside knowledge got to do with it? You are confusing things. It sounds like you are having a conversation with someone else. For the very last time:
My points were.
- Outside the Bale and Ronaldo, there are no other WC players in those positions so I asked peoples opinions on the alternatives given:
Bale: Turned us down at least 3 times, he said himself that he does not want to leave. He only wants to start more and would prefer to stay if he can. Even then because Zidane has quit it means that the new manager will want to make the decision if he is staying or going.
Now outside the WC bracket, we spoke about Willian.
It is unlikely Chelsea will let another key player go to their PL rivals after Matic. They are also similarly like Madrid in limbo with an impending new manager who will want to review the squad and dictate if he stays or goes.
Now my point was/is does anyone have any ideas/recommendations who else would be a viable option on the RW given the existing circumstances and nonsense about RM saying £222M for bale (which is probably BS).
The reason for this rationale is I don't think we would be that incompetent to hope for the least likely scenario of one of those situations (above)changing unexpectedly in order to fill a position we have been desperately lacking for years now. Unless there is an agreement on the down low. So the crux of my post was to see if there were other options that people knew of or would fancy because this thread is about which players Jose is looking to sign and one of them being an RW.
Hopefully, that makes it clear. If not then good day to you sir.
Sign em all!
Griezmann 90M
Bale 90M
Alderweireld 50M
Sandro 50M
I don't care how or where they play, sign them!
You forgot Mbappe
Get Griezmann in, then Sandro and Alderweireld.
---------------Lukaku-------------------
----Sanchez---------------Griezmann---
---------Pogba------------Fred-----------
------------------Matic--------------------
--Sandro-----Toby-----Bailly-------Dalot/Meunier
-------------------DDG-------------------
A team that should be challenging City and be in contention for the title.
Keep Martial and with him Rashford, Herrera, Valencia, Young, Lingard, etc we'll have decent enough bench.
Sell Mata, Blind, Darmian one of Jones/Smalling/Lindelof - that would recoup some funds in.
---------------Lukaku-------------------
----Sanchez---------------Griezmann---
---------Pogba------------Fred-----------
------------------Matic--------------------
--Sandro-----Toby-----Bailly-------Dalot/Meunier
-------------------DDG-------------------
A team that should be challenging City and be in contention for the title.
Keep Martial and with him Rashford, Herrera, Valencia, Young, Lingard, etc we'll have decent enough bench.
Sell Mata, Blind, Darmian one of Jones/Smalling/Lindelof - that would recoup some funds in.
Let's not get greedy.
We should stockpile like the other big spenders. That way we have a top-level replacement for every position on the pitch with a very strong bench and also keep the competition from strengthening. Joking aside, This is actually a strategy.
People argue about "keeping everyone happy" well that is always a challenge regardless and the money usually keeps them quite. Besides Real and Barca seem to manage it and its a good "headache" to have. Rather that then having to put Fellaini in Midfield.
I do. Two starters in left back and an right sided attacker. People keep taking about a ball playing atttacker, another midfielder etc. Personally didn’t think so and think signing 4 new starters will just put us back to ‘transition’ and ‘rebuild’.
A team with De gea, bailly, pogba, Sánchez, Martial, lukaku should be doing better than we are. Unless whatever is causing our play to be so poor at times changes no signing will help
What about the players who retire, go out of contract or are deadweight?
We go with a squad of 18 do we?
2 down I reckon it would be smart to get another good midfielder, a first choice left back and either Wilian Bale or Griezmann.
I don't mind about the cb position. I rate Smalling Jones Baillley and Rojo. They've been part of a good defensive record which is not solely related to De gea.
I don't mind about the cb position. I rate Smalling Jones Baillley and Rojo. They've been part of a good defensive record which is not solely related to De gea.
I don't think we need another CM to be honest. We will most likely start next season with Pogba, Fred and Matic. Then we have McTomminay, Herrera, Pereira.. Spending 100m on someone like SMS makes no sense considering we need a top class LB, CB and if we're to bring in a star name I'd rather that be someone like Griezmann up top.
I don't think it's enough, personally. It means players like Pogba can rest on their laurels knowing there's no creative replacement to give any competition. My preference is to buy a creator or at least another technical midfielder so we can drop anyone that performs like dogshite.
Let's not forget we missed Fellaini, Herrera AND Pogba for 2-3 months each last season. That's a lot of dependency on players like McTominay or Perreira, neither of which are ready to step up for Man Utd just yet.
Sign em all!
Griezmann 90M
Bale 90M
Alderweireld 50M
Sandro 50M
I don't care how or where they play, sign them!
While it seems unrealistic purely because it's a bit FM, it actually is realistic and possible, and we'd improve immensely. I'd cream my pants if this happened.
Wouldn't say no to a bit of depth, but who? SMS would cost excess of 100m and IMO wouldn't make sense if we don't sell Pogba.
Verratti would be a dream signing, but then who we will bench if 4 of them are fit?
Maybe a young gun would make sense who would need time to develop, but then we have Pereira..
Posters who post their fantasy lineups seem to have forgotten
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4925417/jose-mourinho-manchester-united-academy-record/
I don't think he will feck up that record next season either.
He is a proud man with alot of respect for United's history.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4925417/jose-mourinho-manchester-united-academy-record/
I don't think he will feck up that record next season either.
He is a proud man with alot of respect for United's history.
I get what you’re saying about signing too many big names in midfield, but if you look at RM, they don’t crowbar all their top class midfielders in every game.
I get that some players might get a bit frustrated at being benched, but you need depth. And that depth isn’t relying on squad players the moment a starter gets injured or isn’t performing. I mean, what would Pogba think if we dropped him for Kovacic? He’d probably be a lot keener to pull up his socks then rather than if he was replaced by McTominay.
I feel we could do with some quality depth. Not too many, but just enough to keep the starting XI hungry.
No as i said, I think we needed two players for the first eleven. Naturally depth will need to be balanced
And you think two are enough to catch City?
Kovacic is actually a great shout. Very versatile and would bring a lot of creativity in midfield. Can rotate with Matic when we play at home against lower tier sides as a DLP.
Would likely cost much less than SMS as well, but then again would he agree to another rotational role like he has at Madrid at the moment?
Indeed. And they are likely to go straight into their starting XI.
With Dalot, he has been signed as a prospect, who I don't expect to get much game time.
For me, Fred is the only player we have signed to actually get lots of game time in the first team.
Modern Elite football is now much more about the squad game. In Jose's first season, we played 64 games and 54 last year, next year hopefully 60 plus which would mean success in all competitions and at least a couple of trophies.
We have had an unusual high amount of injuries in both seasons so we much be prepared for the same this year and that's why we need genuine competition or at least an excellent back option in every position!
So please tell me if we are to get our other 4 most rumoured signings and sell the deadweight. How this 26 would not be a serious upgrade on our current Squad?
D De Gea/ S Romero - GK
A Valencia/ D Dalot - RWB
E Bailey/ V Linderlof -RCB
T Auderweild* / M Rojo -LCB
A Sandro* /L Shaw - LWB
N Matic/ T F Mensah - CDM
Pogba/ Fred - BTB
Milinkovavik-Savic*/ A Herrera - AMF
Lukaku / Rashford - CFW
Bale* / J Lingard - RWS
Sanchez / A Martial LWS
Add to that 22... A Young, C Smalling and
J Mata J Pereira
We shoukd arrange loan deals for Tuanzebe, McTominay and all the other players not listed should be released like Feillani, Darmian, Blind, Jones and A Pereira.
Coincidentally we won 37 and 36 games in both seasons which tells you that at certain points we ran out of steam, hence the need for added competition were no player feels he is untouchable and can not be dropped!
We have had an unusual high amount of injuries in both seasons so we much be prepared for the same this year and that's why we need genuine competition or at least an excellent back option in every position!
So please tell me if we are to get our other 4 most rumoured signings and sell the deadweight. How this 26 would not be a serious upgrade on our current Squad?
D De Gea/ S Romero - GK
A Valencia/ D Dalot - RWB
E Bailey/ V Linderlof -RCB
T Auderweild* / M Rojo -LCB
A Sandro* /L Shaw - LWB
N Matic/ T F Mensah - CDM
Pogba/ Fred - BTB
Milinkovavik-Savic*/ A Herrera - AMF
Lukaku / Rashford - CFW
Bale* / J Lingard - RWS
Sanchez / A Martial LWS
Add to that 22... A Young, C Smalling and
J Mata J Pereira
We shoukd arrange loan deals for Tuanzebe, McTominay and all the other players not listed should be released like Feillani, Darmian, Blind, Jones and A Pereira.
Coincidentally we won 37 and 36 games in both seasons which tells you that at certain points we ran out of steam, hence the need for added competition were no player feels he is untouchable and can not be dropped!
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2 signings wont do it.
We need at least 4, wouldn't complain at 6 with at least 6 leave based on our current squad.
If your happy with 2 signings and keeping the likes of blind/rojo/jones/fellaini then you can kiss any hopes of finishing in the top 4 good bye.
Teams around us will improve. This league is getting harder and we need to stay in that top bracket, to do that we need to sign more than 2 players I'm afraid.
Plus we've already signed 2 and Jose is in for a LB and CB and possibly RW - so your point is invalid anyway
Bale is the flavor of the summer. Just because he scored a poxy goal in the final, now everyone has forgotten that he has a terrible injury record and that he’s likely to spend even less minutes playing in the PL than LaLiga.
Last summer Mbappe was all the rage, now it’s Bale...
Last summer Mbappe was all the rage, now it’s Bale...
6 players feels like too much, especially during a WC window, which shuts 3 weeks earlier.
I know we have 2 already, but I doubt we'll go for 4 more. However it all depends on timing.
Next two transfers will drag a long time. They'll be a RW and LB.
I think the team will work on 2 targets at the same time and if they're done as smoothly as the last two
we could announce them with a little time window between them.
If really Sandro is our 'Top of the list' LB target, then I assume we are working on it as of now and
somewhere in the next 2 weeks we'll find out if transfer is happening or not.
RW - I don't think we'll go for Bale, but rather someone who's still quality and is a lower profile - Willian like.
I know we have 2 already, but I doubt we'll go for 4 more. However it all depends on timing.
Next two transfers will drag a long time. They'll be a RW and LB.
I think the team will work on 2 targets at the same time and if they're done as smoothly as the last two
we could announce them with a little time window between them.
If really Sandro is our 'Top of the list' LB target, then I assume we are working on it as of now and
somewhere in the next 2 weeks we'll find out if transfer is happening or not.
RW - I don't think we'll go for Bale, but rather someone who's still quality and is a lower profile - Willian like.
I am surprised we don't have back up for nemanja matic?
Right, in terms of priority (after signing Fred & Dalot), I think most of us agree these should be the areas which need addressing.
1. Left back
2. Right wing
3. Back up striker
4. Another central midfielder
5. Centre back
4&5 I would consider a bonus as I can't see us signing 7 players in one window. A left back & right winger really should be bought though, if we go into the new season without addressing those, we have simply failed in my opinion.
1. Left back
2. Right wing
3. Back up striker
4. Another central midfielder
5. Centre back
4&5 I would consider a bonus as I can't see us signing 7 players in one window. A left back & right winger really should be bought though, if we go into the new season without addressing those, we have simply failed in my opinion.
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