Suedesi
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Inept.
The day he's sold is a day closer to getting our shit together.
Still true
Inept.
The day he's sold is a day closer to getting our shit together.
Out of interest, do you think he's done a good job organising the defence?
He's about the same level as Wes Brown. Not really good enough for united but would star for a midtable club team
An insult to Brown. Brown was class and you could depend on him to do a job. He was an athlete and way talented and stronger than Evans. A real insult to Brown. Even O'shea was better than Evans
An insult to Brown. Brown was class and you could depend on him to do a job. He was an athlete and way talented and stronger than Evans. A real insult to Brown. Even O'shea was better than Evans
And before this season Evans was a good player.This, Brown was actually a good player, Evans this season is like Evans in his first season for a 26 years old player, that's a disgrace.
This, Brown was actually a good player, Evans this season is like Evans in his first season for a 26 years old player, that's a disgrace.
Well we have looked decent defensively for the most part in this run of games so maybe, but i suspect it would be a very hard thing to judge.
He seems to be the only one who is vocal for the most part but who knows if his organisation has been a positive or negative on actual performances.
But the fact he is actually taking the responsibility of being vocal and organising the younger defenders could only be viewed as a positive with regards to Evans character could it not?
He seems to shout at players the most right after his errors. Laughable player
There are a lot of people who reckon Evans first full season 2008-09 was actually his best to date, when he played a big part in the run of what was it 14 straight clean sheets in the league. So that's a bit of a strange comparison.
And before this season Evans was a good player.
My memory is rubbish, was that his second season when he was literally afraid of his shadow ?
Nah he had a bad season and lots of people were confident he'd be gone. Then he turned it around and was seen as as our best CB and not a great player but a very good one. Hence the calls for him as captain. Those bad spells you mention weren't really that bad as his second season and this one.Can't say i remember him being too bad that season to be honest though i may be wrong. I do remember him having bad spells in 2010-11 and 2011-12 and then looking a good player again in Ferguson's final year.
Nah he had a bad season and lots of people were confident he'd be gone. Then he turned it around and was seen as as our best CB and not a great player but a very good one. Hence the calls for him as captain. Those bad spells you mention weren't really that bad as his second season and this one.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
While Evans has been on the pitch in the following games:
Villa
Newcastle
Tottenham
we have conceded only 2 goals (1 of which was a penalty, for whom Jones was directly responsible).
Have I got this right?
Thats pretty much how i remember his time here as well mate, though as i said i may well have been wrong about his form in 2009-10. I remembered his bad spell being later than that.
The only one of his early seasons i remember clearly was his first, he's never looked as good as he did back then since. But i still think he's been a pretty good player for us for the most part.
I reckon we will see a much improved Evans this season if he manages to get a run in a back 4 and not this abomination of a formation that we use right now. Jesus do i hate 352.
Well we have looked decent defensively for the most part in this run of games so maybe, but i suspect it would be a very hard thing to judge.
He seems to be the only one who is vocal for the most part but who knows if his organisation has been a positive or negative on actual performances.
But the fact he is actually taking the responsibility of being vocal and organising the younger defenders could only be viewed as a positive with regards to Evans character could it not?
I think people on this forum are looking for a V.Kompany or J.Terry type level of player.
At present at least, J.Evans is not of this level.
I think people on this forum are looking for a V.Kompany or J.Terry type level of player.
At present at least, J.Evans is not of this level.
However, the reasons why we have drawn in our last 3 away games is not Evans' fault.
LvG decided last Summer that the best way for us to win the league will be to be attack heavy.
Basically, we will out-score the opposition.
We got Di Maria, Herrera and Falcao to achieve this. All 3 have been injury prone and have not proved their worth yet. IMO Di Maria was a terrible purchase, but that's a discussion for another day.
We are drawing games not because of Evans, but because our attackers are not able to score more than 1 goal. And just to highlight, in 4 games with Evans in defence, we have conceded 3 goals, which I dont think is a bad statistic.
In comparison, in the last 4 games:
Man City have conceded: 5 goals.
Chelsea: 6 goals.
Man Utd: 3 goals.
Our issue is not the defence or Evans. The issue is our attack. Its injured/weak/limp and devoid of ideas right now.
Have a read.
I backed him and rated him highly. What has happened to his passing? He looks a shadow of the defender he once was. I guess he needs a strong partner with him to thrive. Sort it out.
I think people on this forum are looking for a V.Kompany or J.Terry type level of player.
At present at least, J.Evans is not of this level.
However, the reasons why we have drawn in our last 3 away games is not Evans' fault.
LvG decided last Summer that the best way for us to win the league will be to be attack heavy.
Basically, we will out-score the opposition.
We got Di Maria, Herrera and Falcao to achieve this. All 3 have been injury prone and have not proved their worth yet. IMO Di Maria was a terrible purchase, but that's a discussion for another day.
We are drawing games not because of Evans, but because our attackers are not able to score more than 1 goal. And just to highlight, in 4 games with Evans in defence, we have conceded 3 goals, which I dont think is a bad statistic.
In comparison, in the last 4 games:
Man City have conceded: 5 goals.
Chelsea: 6 goals.
Man Utd: 3 goals.
Our issue is not the defence or Evans. The issue is our attack. Its injured/weak/limp and devoid of ideas right now.
Have a read.
There was one moment today when Evans was screaming like a mad man at De Gea for no reason, like our keeper was the one who was messing everything up. Seemed like Jonny was really stressed.
The thing is with Jonny Evans, I understand it's difficult for him at the moment and he doesn't want to lose the ball and he's low on confidence and all that. But his decision making with the ball on his feet is ridiculous. The dithering is insane, he keeps on making 6 or more touches, after which he cuts back and plays a useless side- or backway pass. Or he hoofs it over Falcao after standing still with the ball for 10 seconds while two midfielders are free. And he's aware that it´s not going well with his passing, so the moment there is space to play a good pass, he hesitates and then, again, plays the useless simple pass to the first player tha comes available. We can never fully dominate a match with decision making like that.
Phil Jones and Smalling aren't perfect with the ball, but at least they aren't completely useless with it either, and I'm surprised how quickly they've showed progression, especially Smalling. Jones already played in midfield against Real Madrid two years ago, playing some passes with the outside of his foot, he's a really strange player and might actually be our best footballing CB at the moment.
Defensively Evans has had poor moments too, but our back three has also had some solid moments with him in it. But the way he missed that long ball yesterday, I fear for the worst. Jonny really needs to raise his game, and not a little bit.
I think people on this forum are looking for a V.Kompany or J.Terry type level of player.
At present at least, J.Evans is not of this level.
However, the reasons why we have drawn in our last 3 away games is not Evans' fault.
LvG decided last Summer that the best way for us to win the league will be to be attack heavy.
Basically, we will out-score the opposition.
We got Di Maria, Herrera and Falcao to achieve this. All 3 have been injury prone and have not proved their worth yet. IMO Di Maria was a terrible purchase, but that's a discussion for another day.
We are drawing games not because of Evans, but because our attackers are not able to score more than 1 goal. And just to highlight, in 4 games with Evans in defence, we have conceded 3 goals, which I dont think is a bad statistic.
In comparison, in the last 4 games:
Man City have conceded: 5 goals.
Chelsea: 6 goals.
Man Utd: 3 goals.
Our issue is not the defence or Evans. The issue is our attack. Its injured/weak/limp and devoid of ideas right now.
Have a read.
You disagree with what that he was decent against Spurs and Newcastle?
Then you are only letting yourself see the bad and ignoring the good mate, even in here the general consensus was he was good defensively against Spurs and had a decent game vs Newcastle.
No thanks mate, out of interest have you recently watched the 95 games he's played in the last 3 seasons? I will go out on a limb and say you haven't, because if you had you would realise the rest of your post is wild exaggeration.